Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

2011-06-20 Thread Samuel Klein
This is a great idea. SJ On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: On 06/19/2011 07:37 PM, Ryan Lomonaco wrote: I recognize that this is probably a touchy issue given the controversy on the English Wikipedia over flagged revisions (which I thankfully wasn't a

Re: [Foundation-l] en.wp HACKED?

2011-06-20 Thread risker . wp
Perhaps not. One of the weaknesses of flagged revisions is that it enshrines vandalism. The required review of all changes and redaction of personal attacks only adds more steps to the resolution of each episode of vandalism. Semi-protection would be more likely to halt inappropriate edits to

[Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Milos Rancic
After a month of on-list talk -- sometimes very heated, sometimes very quiet -- Language committee has agreed about the next wording of the part of the new policy [1] related to the simple languages: * Can there be wikis in simple languages? *: Yes, in principle. But two special criteria would

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Joe Gazz84
On 6/20/2011 10:29 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: After a month of on-list talk -- sometimes very heated, sometimes very quiet -- Language committee has agreed about the next wording of the part of the new policy [1] related to the simple languages: * Can there be wikis in simple languages? *: Yes,

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/20/2011 04:29 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: After a month of on-list talk -- sometimes very heated, sometimes very quiet -- Language committee has agreed about the next wording of the part of the new policy [1] related to the simple languages: * Can there be wikis in simple languages? *:

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread MZMcBride
Milos Rancic wrote: After a month of on-list talk -- sometimes very heated, sometimes very quiet -- Language committee has agreed about the next wording of the part of the new policy [1] related to the simple languages: * Can there be wikis in simple languages? *: Yes, in principle. But two

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/20/2011 07:25 PM, MZMcBride wrote: Milos Rancic wrote: After a month of on-list talk -- sometimes very heated, sometimes very quiet -- Language committee has agreed about the next wording of the part of the new policy [1] related to the simple languages: * Can there be wikis in simple

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/20/2011 08:23 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: The logical line of my thoughts was to allow *any* project in simple (or equivalent) language if there is a scientific basis. Mostly because there could be created valid communities around non-world-languages with large number of speakers (German and

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Theo10011
The last request was a 2 line proposal added by an anon ip[1] in passing, their only edit. I wouldn't call that a community. Theo [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Simple_German_4action=historysubmitdiff=2519024oldid=2087184 On Tue, Jun 21,

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/20/2011 08:30 PM, Theo10011 wrote: The last request was a 2 line proposal added by an anon ip[1] in passing, their only edit. I wouldn't call that a community. However, the first three were valid ones. ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread David Gerard
WIk On 20 June 2011 15:29, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: *: Yes, in principle. But two special criteria would need to be met: the language should be a world language with many L2 users, and there must be a reliable, published specification of the controlled language to be used.

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello Milos, Thank you for the elaboration. Indeed I am afraid that the concept is a little too narrow. A language like Dutch is not really a world language, but it as a lot of speakers with Dutch as a foreign or second language. Also, as far as I know Simple English Wikipedia mentions Basic

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/20/2011 08:55 PM, David Gerard wrote: On 20 June 2011 15:29, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: *: Yes, in principle. But two special criteria would need to be met: the language should be a world language with many L2 users, and there must be a reliable, published specification of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-20 Thread Tomasz Finc
Totally, Getting the platform in place is step one. Next we get to prioritize surfacing more reading features vs. adding more editing features. I'll add a calendar of what the current discussions have looked like so that everyone can easily see them. --tomasz On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM,

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Milos Rancic
This was intended to be reply to the list. Original Message Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:12:16 +0100 From: Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com To: Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com On 06/20/2011 08:55 PM, David Gerard wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, The case with Simple English WP is a little more complicated: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_English_Wikipedia Basic English is only one standard they are looking at. There should be also more consideration about the target group. If a simple wikipedia meant to be a tool

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-20 Thread MZMcBride
Thanks for the detailed response. :-) Milos Rancic wrote: As usual, discussion would be held on Meta. If there are serious arguments against creation of Simple French Wikipedia, we would consider them, of course. However, arguments like I don't like simple projects won't be counted. Well,

[Foundation-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner this week

2011-06-20 Thread Steven Walling
Hi Wikimedians, Just a quick note that this Thursday, June 23rd there will be an IRC office hours with Sue Gardner at 17:00 UTC. We haven't set a topic yet, so please feel free to come with your burning questions. As usual, documentation is on Meta.[1] We look forward to chatting. :) -- Steven

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcement: WMF engineering promotions and role changes

2011-06-20 Thread Erik Moeller
FYI :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:58 PM Subject: Announcement: WMF engineering promotions and role changes To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi folks, I’m pleased to announce the following