[Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread Thomas Morton
As a follow up to the discussion about Bitcoins (during the board elections) accepting them as donations... I thought this article by the EFF explaining why they no longer accept BC sets out some interesting arguments: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/06/eff-and-bitcoin Tom

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcement: WMF engineering promotions and role changes

2011-06-21 Thread Jon Harald Søby
2011/6/21 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org FYI :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org Date: Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:58 PM Subject: Announcement: WMF engineering promotions and role changes To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: Projects in simple languages

2011-06-21 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 06/20/11 2:12 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: The case with Simple English WP is a little more complicated: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_English_Wikipedia Basic English is only one standard they are looking at. There should be also more consideration about the target group. If

[Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread Rui Correia
Hi I know I am in the wrong place for this. Normally this kind of thing would/ should go on the discuss pages, but category discuss pages don't attract much attention. If you consult Categories: Sailors/ Navigators/ Explorers, you will see that quite a number of people are listed in these

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread Huib Laurens
This should be on wikien-l instead of foundation-l I guess, 2011/6/21, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com: Hi I know I am in the wrong place for this. Normally this kind of thing would/ should go on the discuss pages, but category discuss pages don't attract much attention. If you consult

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread Rui Correia
Dear Huib I edit the WP in English, Portuguese, French, Afrikaans, German, Spanish ... This is happenning in all languages - it is not a WP-E issue. Regards, Rui 2011/6/21 Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com This should be on wikien-l instead of foundation-l I guess, 2011/6/21, Rui Correia

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
I guess you want to discuss about English Wikipedia category system. The better place for this is wikiEN-l list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l 2011/6/21 Rui Correia correia@gmail.com: Hi I know I am in the wrong place for this. Normally this kind of thing would/

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 June 2011 10:50, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote: I edit the WP in English, Portuguese, French, Afrikaans, German, Spanish ... This is happenning in all languages - it is not a WP-E issue. Categories work a bit like a hierarchy, a bit like tags. There's a perennial proposal[1]

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread Andre Engels
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote: I know I am in the wrong place for this. Normally this kind of thing would/ should go on the discuss pages, but category discuss pages don't attract much attention. If you consult Categories: Sailors/ Navigators/

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread Fred Bauder
Hi I know I am in the wrong place for this. Normally this kind of thing would/ should go on the discuss pages, but category discuss pages don't attract much attention. If you consult Categories: Sailors/ Navigators/ Explorers, you will see that quite a number of people are listed in

Re: [Foundation-l] Projects in simple languages

2011-06-21 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/21/2011 12:25 AM, MZMcBride wrote: Thanks for the detailed response. :-) Milos Rancic wrote: As usual, discussion would be held on Meta. If there are serious arguments against creation of Simple French Wikipedia, we would consider them, of course. However, arguments like I don't like

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread Milos Rancic
On 06/21/2011 09:11 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: As a follow up to the discussion about Bitcoins (during the board elections) accepting them as donations... I thought this article by the EFF explaining why they no longer accept BC sets out some interesting arguments:

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread Thomas Morton
I'm guessing it is related to a dawning reality that while Bitcoin isn't at the whim of some government it *is* at the whim of lots of people on the internet. There are major issues there; of a lack of oversight, a lack of security in the market (i.e. the recent hacking and crashinng of the market

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread Mono mium
Supposedly the Bitcoins system was just hacked. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: As a follow up to the discussion about Bitcoins (during the board elections) accepting them as donations... I thought this article by the EFF explaining why they

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 June 2011 15:13, Mono mium monom...@gmail.com wrote: Supposedly the Bitcoins system was just hacked. The biggest Bitcoin exchange was apparently hacked, both machines and socially. This is the part of the system that is not immaculately cryptographically sound, i.e. the humans. - d.

[Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-21 Thread Lodewijk
Lets try to approach this from another angle. Perhaps simple Wikipedia should not be considered as a different language, but rather as a different project - a simplified Wikipedia. Because the purpose of simple wikipedia's can be debated of course, but one potential is to give more people

[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 25 – 20 June 2011

2011-06-21 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: WMF Board election results; Indian campus ambassadors gear up; Wikimedia UK plans; Malayalam Wikisource CD; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-06-20/News_and_notes In the news: Wikipedia could become trusted medical resource; neologism

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-21 Thread Erik Zachte
Another alternative: New 'simple/advanced' keywords which would hide specific sections of the content from the user if he or she asked for it. I envision a Wikipedia (many years from now) which knows you want math articles in a simple version but detailed/advanced coverage of say history

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread Krinkle
Actually, it is probably best posted to mediawiki-l or wikitech-l as it's about using the software not about the Foundation or about the English Wikipedia in particular. 2011/6/21 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com I guess you want to discuss about English Wikipedia category system. The better

Re: [Foundation-l] Plethora of overlapping Categories

2011-06-21 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: On 21 June 2011 10:50, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote: I edit the WP in English, Portuguese, French, Afrikaans, German, Spanish ... This is happenning in all languages - it is not a WP-E issue. Categories work a bit like a hierarchy, a bit like tags. There's a

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread MZMcBride
Thomas Morton wrote: As a follow up to the discussion about Bitcoins (during the board elections) accepting them as donations... I thought this article by the EFF explaining why they no longer accept BC sets out some interesting arguments: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/06/eff-and-bitcoin

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread robert_horn...@netzero.net
The claims of Bitcoin advocates about the legality of the currency have always been questioned. Frankly I don't know of anybody involved with Bitcoins and understood it on a technical level that wasn't also sure that it was simply breaking new ground on both a technological as well as a legal

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 June 2011 17:52, robert_horn...@netzero.net robert_horn...@netzero.net wrote:  I'd be far more worried about the stability of currencies like the U.S. Dollar and the Euro as their basis in reality is even shakier than Bitcoins, yet the collapse of either or both currencies could

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread robert_horn...@netzero.net
Actually, it is. I expect Wikipedia to outlast the U.S. Dollar at least in some form, or at least stick around as long as literature like The Oddessy and The Epic of Gilgamesh and be a part of human culture longer than the civilizations that produced that literature. Why would it be

Re: [Foundation-l] EFF Bitcoins

2011-06-21 Thread Chris Keating
Actually, it is. I expect Wikipedia to outlast the U.S. Dollar at least in some form, or at least stick around as long as literature like The Oddessy and The Epic of Gilgamesh and be a part of human culture longer than the civilizations that produced that literature. Why would it be

[Foundation-l] Brain Calisthenics for Abstract Ideas

2011-06-21 Thread Marc Riddell
Hi. I realize this has nothing directly to do with the WP Project, but here's an article I thought many of you might find interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/health/07learn.html?emc=tnttntemail0=y Enjoy. Marc Riddell ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-21 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:26 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2011 16:08, Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, when you release your work under cc-by-sa you grant a third party the right to reuse a (small or large) part of your work to make a derivative

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-21 Thread Thomas Morton
A fair comparision, though as with Wikipedia editions I think this varies by language. Even on en.wiki it is not always like that. The major contributors to featured articles ate generally allowed more leeway on content ownership. That's written into th guideline. Tom