Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-06 Thread Kim Bruning
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 09:12:09PM +0100, David Gerard wrote: http://chronicle.com/article/Academic-Publisher-Steps-Up/128031/ People are exchanging and selling access to the databases to get the damn science. This is why we need to keep pushing the free content and open access message.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Estonia report April-June 2011

2011-07-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you, Teele! I like this style of report -- it is very easy to read.SJ On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Teele Vaalma teele.vaa...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia Estonia report April-June 2011 ==Meetings== *April 1. Started regular biweekly wiki-meetings in Tartu Public Library.

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-06 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Within the general concept of Merging Wikis I agree, it would be good in principle to have one uber-wiki that is the central hub of all community things +1 I wonder - would it be possible in MediaWiki to make it possible

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-06 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de wrote: Am 02.07.11 14:17 schrieb Alec Conroy: There's an even bigger opportunity here-- Make a brand new brand name that captures the ideology better than

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-06 Thread Thomas Morton
Wikinews is too dynamic and has it's own set of problems to merge easily. It could be done though if given it's own namespace, and Wikipedia would definitely benefit. +1 In the topic area I work there are a lot of contributors writing content that is vastly more suited to Wikinews. A News:

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-06 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 05.07.11 14:39 schrieb Alec Conroy: I beg your pardon, but Ziko and WereSpielChequers are absolutely right here. You won't manage to introduce another brand name after ten years of Wikipedia. Not only CAN you introduce such a 'movement' brand name, but such a name is inevitable.

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-06 Thread Alec Conroy
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:45 PM, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: The system of charging readers for distribution of scientific information is fundamentally flawed. Wikipedia demonstrates that it is cheap to host data. Reviewers don't get paid. Companies pay plenty to advertise

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 July 2011 20:58, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote: We need a Wikijournal project, where scientists can do all the functions of a journal without any prior approval--  collectively form groups, review, and publish. Free content is going to capture science eventually-- scientists

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-06 Thread Arlen Beiler
Once it is published, can't it just go to Wikisource? Or would it have to be CC-By or something like that. If so, Wikisource would still be the best suited for that, we would just have to put it in a journal namespace or something along that line. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:17 PM, David Gerard

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 July 2011 21:29, Arlen Beiler arlen...@gmail.com wrote: Once it is published, can't it just go to Wikisource? Or would it have to be CC-By or something like that. If so, Wikisource would still be the best suited for that, we would just have to put it in a journal namespace or something

[Foundation-l] La BNF fait appel à des partenaires privés pour numériser ses collections

2011-07-06 Thread Rodolphe de Soras
La BNF fait appel à des partenaires privés pour numériser ses collections http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/article/2011/07/06/la-bnf-fait-appel-a-de s-partenaires-prives-pour-numeriser-ses-collections_1545674_651865.html#xtor =AL-32280184 ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-06 Thread Alec Conroy
Remember that en:wp's no original research rule was invented for physics cranks. And even with fairly light moderation, arXiv features some spectacularly gibbering [[green ink]]. This will need some thought to create something that's actually useful to anyone, anywhere, ever. A free journal

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-06 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 19:27, Arlen Beiler arlen...@gmail.com wrote: Milos Rancic wrote: There are two types of Wikimedia projects: those which could be reasonably treated as extensions of Wikipedia and those which couldn't be. For example, Wiktionary (as it is presently) and Wikibooks are

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-06 Thread Andrea Zanni
2011/7/6 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 6 July 2011 21:29, Arlen Beiler arlen...@gmail.com wrote: Once it is published, can't it just go to Wikisource? Or would it have to be CC-By or something like that. If so, Wikisource would still be the best suited for that, we would just have to