Re: [Foundation-l] Will Beback

2012-03-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/12/12 12:35 PM, George Herbert wrote: Without delving into the specifics here, or concluding either way as to the current case lacking actual evidence in front of me, it is a real and quite serious problem if we don't hold senior and longtime editors to account for abuses they may

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/09/12 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Ray Saintongesainto...@telus.net wrote: On 03/08/12 2:20 AM, Theo10011 wrote: The other issue is morality and responsibility. I don't think any executives or board members should make a statement about that video.

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2012-03-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/09/12 10:00 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 10 March 2012 00:57, Ray Saintongesainto...@telus.net wrote: On 03/09/12 6:06 AM, Neil Babbage wrote: Wikimedia is not supposed to be some kind of exercise in perfection for perfection's sake. It's supposed to be open, accessible and useful.

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-13 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 13.03.2012 03:39, schrieb Andreas Kolbe: It's not me who's uploading hundreds of pornographic media onto Wikimedia sites. There are places for porn online, just like there are places for online poker, and amateur digital art. I have no problem with any of them. But listen to yourself – you

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.03.2012 03:39, schrieb Andreas Kolbe: No. I'm not accusing you for prudery, but for making wrong cited statements. Your assumption is that we have to sacrifice neutrality to please a audience that

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-13 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 13.03.2012 10:39, schrieb Andreas Kolbe: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.03.2012 03:39, schrieb Andreas Kolbe: No. I'm not accusing you for prudery, but for making wrong cited statements. Your assumption is that we have to

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
2010's 32-volume set will be its last. (Now I want to get one, to replace my old set!) Future versions will be digital only. http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/after-244-years-encyclopaedia-britannica-stops-the-presses/?smid=tw-nytimesseid=auto

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? On 13 March 2012 22:49, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to get one, to replace my old

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? No, I think there were only like three big universal

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains, SOPA, Godaddy and MarkMonitor

2012-03-13 Thread Michael Peel
Hello, Thanks MZMcBride for your reply here. On 10 Mar 2012, at 22:32, MZMcBride wrote: Michael Peel wrote: I'd like to see more information here. What activities are MarkMonitor involved in with the 'anti-piracy fight'? Are they involved in filtering all peer-to-peer traffic, or just the

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread emijrp
2012/3/13 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Today our digital database is much larger than what we can fit in the print set. And it is up to date because we can revise it within minutes anytime we need to, and we do it many times each day. Wow, they update the encyclopedia many times each day.

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to get one, to replace my old set!)  Future versions will be digital only.

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:22 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 2010's 32-volume set will be its last. (Now I want to get one, to replace my old set!) Future versions will be digital only.

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print encyclopedias part of your motivation or interest in

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I am confusing things. There's also World Book in English, the

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Tim Starling
On 14/03/12 11:22, phoebe ayers wrote: I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print encyclopedias

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Risker
On 13 March 2012 20:22, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Was a

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Béria Lima
My answers to Phoebe questions. (I tryed to keep it short to not create a lot of problems to read, if you need a bigger version you can ask me) :) *I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to