Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Yes we might be on the same page, but I think in general the employment policy of WFM is one big disaster. I would rather not make a research on productivity among the employees... which from a POV of an outsider seems to be a tragedy looking at the site usability and editing stats... I have no

[Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Hi there, new projects suck, because there are (close to) none asked some time ago already with few positive replies bug was already filled at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29923 is there someone who can help move on? not really expecting tremendous action(s), but just giving

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread K. Peachey
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: new projects suck, because there are (close to) none Well propose a non sucky one then? TBH I don't class a QA site really as a new project. Since that bug (if memory serves correctly) is just about setting one up for

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-06 Thread Tarc Meridian
In some respects, that change would be quite good. My experience on Wikiquote has been unfavorable, to put it mildly, where the en.wiki concept of BLP is non-existent. Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:42:41 +1000 From: jay...@gmail.com To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re:

[Foundation-l] Creative Commons licenses v4 drafts available

2012-04-06 Thread David Gerard
https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/32157 The fussy buggers of Wikimedia need to get nitpicking ... - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Yes and why the damn WMF does not throw their support behind such projects? Do they consider us all to be useless idiots when proposing such things? 2012/4/6 Mono monom...@gmail.com: Well, I don't think it could be successful unless the Foundation threw their support behind it. On Friday,

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-06 Thread David Richfield
Very good stuff! Can we please also have information on how to update them, and source files? It's good to have brilliant graphics, but also very important to be able to recreate them. By the way, in the same breath, let me plug my basic, simple, parliament diagram creator (which writes svg

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
I would be interested in helping with this project from a third-party wiki and MediaWiki developer perspective. -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, new projects

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Great! Could you two please revise the current dormant proposal at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiAnswers And note that one of the active uses of the site would be a channel dedicated to QA about using the Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki? I think it is simpler and easier to say let's start

[Foundation-l] Do you use MediaWiki as a conference website?

2012-04-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Forwarding to f-l/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Internal-l] Do you use MediaWiki as a conference website? Related to this idea, OpenMeetings is a site established to capture meetings and video/audio/text of talks at them, under a

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
I will be happy to set such a site for the Foundation, as soon as someone gives me the power to do so... the only development task is to connect existing software (probably OSQA) to Global login system... Btw, Erik, I actually like acting rather than talking and I am terribly frustrated from the

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Some modifications and requested info has been added to: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Great! Could you two please revise the current dormant proposal at

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
Take a look at toolserver.org/~mono/qua On Friday, April 6, 2012, Gregory Varnum wrote: Some modifications and requested info has been added to: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Is there a more wiki like version of that platform available - or would development of such a platform be feasible and of interest to our volunteer developers? -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at toolserver.org/~mono/qua On Friday, April 6,

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread John
WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The legalities and paperwork necessary to avoid the WMF from getting their asses sued off for bad answers is probably a multi-year endeavor, and a money sink.

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
I believ you misinterpreted the use. This tool would only do users EDITing Wikipedia. On Friday, April 6, 2012, John wrote: WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The legalities and paperwork

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
Possibly, but maybe more trouble that it's worth. On Friday, April 6, 2012, Gregory Varnum wrote: Is there a more wiki like version of that platform available - or would development of such a platform be feasible and of interest to our volunteer developers? -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:30

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
I'm unclear from a legal perspective how this presents a nightmare. In what ways do volunteers responding to QA's about Wikimedia projects and content present great challenges than existing efforts like enWP's Reference Desk and MW.org's Support desk? In regards to answers.yahoo.com - I think

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Fair enough - I could also go around and around on the value or challenge of using wiki style editing to help folks running into problems using wiki edit tools.. -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, but maybe more trouble that it's worth. On Friday,

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Thomas Morton
You might want to warn stackexchange ;-) Tom Morton On 6 Apr 2012, at 21:44, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The legalities and paperwork necessary

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Peter Coombe
Wasn't there a proposal a while back for a Stack Exchange [1] site like this? It seems like the ideal software for it. Although IMO if MediaWiki discussions are too confusing for new users, we should be concentrating on fixing that (*cough* LiquidThreads *cough*) rather than going to a different

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
This site could be an interesting test ground for the developing visual editor and future LiquidThreads projects. I always feel a little weird when we develop new platforms rather than enhance the MediaWiki platform. -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 06/04/2012 00:39: These are fantastic. I don't see them on (EN) articles or Commons yet, though it's easy to miss... do the students need help uploading etc? All those images are hotlinked from Commons, or are we talking about different things? Some of them are in articles

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com wrote: Wasn't there a proposal a while back for a Stack Exchange [1] site like this? It seems like the ideal software for it. StackExchange and the open source OSQA equivalent are indeed powerful tools and worth

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: What about personal development? Do your managers play an active role in helping their reports develop with objectives, feedback, training, etc? Yes, of course. There's a standard $ allotment for each employee in the