Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikipedia e-mail

2010-03-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 March 2010 19:44, Nicholas Moreau nicholasmor...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else got this weird message, a pseudo-phishing attack? Everyone. They tried this last year on the inactive admins, now they appear to be trying it on everyone. MAKE ACCOUNTS FAST - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Jimbo's authority (on global bans)

2010-03-25 Thread David Gerard
On 25 March 2010 21:33, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Benjamin Lees emufarm...@gmail.com wrote: There is now: *

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikiversity

2010-03-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19/03/2010, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: It's heartbreaking to see how a small project can be disrupted by a tiny number of well-known problem users, and IMO a strong argument for using more global blocking processes. Small projects often think they need to give people fresh

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

2010-03-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 March 2010 19:12, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: For minor languages sustainable activity is often the very good work of one extremely dedicated individual with no-one else making any significant contribution. I thought the definition of sustainable activity included at least

Re: [Foundation-l] Internet nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

2010-03-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 March 2010 23:40, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8560469.stm We're the biggest non-profit website in the world. That sounds like argument for us to get the

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 March 2010 17:20, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Also, David Gerard made a suggestion about weekly updates that concretely list the progress that's being made with regard to FlaggedRevs development. William has mentioned there are software checkins, etc. in progress. Even a list

Re: [Foundation-l] Texas Instruments signing key controversy

2010-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2010 10:38, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: By looking on the other sites that seem to be posting it. I don't see how posting their signing keys helps anyone trying to learn about the company. This sounds like a new case of we want to post it because they don't want it posted

Re: [Foundation-l] Texas Instruments signing key controversy

2010-03-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 March 2010 12:28, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia is not a dumping ground for your copyfight.  There is plenty of reason to exclude this material regardless of the copyright/legal concerns,  and plenty of other people hosting it elsewhere.  Doubly true where the

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Extension of user experience work

2010-03-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 March 2010 09:19, Naoko Komura nkom...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Stanton usability project is in the final phase, but we are still developing one of the most complicated features we worked so far,     collapsing and form-based templates.  We are faced with a lot of challenges, but we

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 March 2010 04:37, Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com wrote:  Do you think donors think this is an important mission, to build up the savings account? Yes. Getting out of living hand-to-mouth and building an actual ongoing reserve has been an express goal over the past few years. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner, Erik Möller , Will iam Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?

2010-03-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 March 2010 06:51, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: And in the future people want to know about something, just drop me a note off list and say, Hey, William! I was wondering about X, and I'd bet other people are too. I'm entirely happy to keep people apprised on pretty much

Re: [Foundation-l] Werner Icking Music Archive may be closing

2010-03-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 March 2010 12:52, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Judging from (an older version of?) the website, it's a general non-commercial license on all submissions: ::: The archive contains free sheet music, free for non-commercial usage. This ::: means that you may download the

Re: [Foundation-l] Werner Icking Music Archive may be closing

2010-02-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 February 2010 12:42, church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com wrote: The Werner Icking Music Archive has announced it's no longer capable of coping with the large amount of visitors to the site. They are considering hosting the content somewhere else. This archive contains

[Foundation-l] semi-OT: LibriVox needs money

2010-02-27 Thread David Gerard
Not WMF-related, but a project I think many here would find sympathy with: http://librivox.org/2010/02/24/librivox-needs-your-help/ They do public-domain audio recordings of public-domain books. The audio files are hosted by ibiblio.org, but the rest runs on a server of their own. They need $20k

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-19 Thread David Gerard
-- Forwarded message -- From: Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com Date: 19 February 2010 21:19 Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent) To: wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org An editor on META is having the crazy idea of tagging all historical logo

Re: [Foundation-l] Great news! Google gives Wikimedia USD 2 million

2010-02-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 February 2010 14:44, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: The question is, how do we thank the company that has everything? We can thank them by providing better content to everyone. That is both what they and us want. Indeed. Note, by the way, I believe we've previously

Re: [Foundation-l] Mediawiki to C++ , here we go

2010-02-02 Thread David Gerard
On 3 February 2010 00:15, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: Do note that this is translation of dynamic language code, it doesn't make it as efficient as code written for native compilation. OTOH, given that wikitext is defined as what the parser does, it's the only current realistic

[Foundation-l] Glyn Moody on BLW

2010-02-01 Thread David Gerard
http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/02/britain-loves-wikipedia-and-about-time.html I've added some background on what we do (ask nicely, take things slowly) and why. Others welcome, particularly as I've only done minimal GLAM liaison myself :-) - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Glyn Moody on BLW

2010-02-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 February 2010 13:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/02/britain-loves-wikipedia-and-about-time.html I've added some background on what we do (ask nicely, take things slowly) and why. Others welcome, particularly as I've only done minimal GLAM

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Danese Cooper joins Wikimedia as CTO

2010-01-29 Thread David Gerard
On 28 January 2010 20:16, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm delighted to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation's new Chief Technical Officer is Danese Cooper, an experienced technology manager and open-source evangelist. Danese will start with Wikimedia on February 4, 2010.

[Foundation-l] Give a man a fish and make it illegal to teach fishing

2010-01-23 Thread David Gerard
http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/5104 Michael Geist on how excessive copyright and ACTA-like treaties will directly affect the process of sharing and education, i.e. what we do. - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-18 Thread David Gerard
2010/1/19 Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com: Keep in mind, though, that PM is constantly asking for Foundation intervention with regard to the images that he is so consistently reviewing and concerned about. Why PM wants Foundation intervention rather than community consensus is unclear to me --

Re: [Foundation-l] video presentation on explicit images on WMF projects

2010-01-14 Thread David Gerard
2010/1/14 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com: As for the link, showing these in greatly enlarged  versions, without the context of the articles in which they are used, is setting up a strong bias. We've never engaged in that use of the material, nor would we. If people want to take our

[Foundation-l] Boing Boing applauds stats.grok.se!

2010-01-08 Thread David Gerard
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/07/wikibumps.html - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Boing Boing applauds stats.grok.se!

2010-01-08 Thread David Gerard
2010/1/8 William Pietri will...@scissor.com: On 01/08/2010 09:02 AM, David Gerard wrote: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/07/wikibumps.html And the poster, who is a Boing Boing guest editor, is one of our own, an English Wikipedia contributor since 2004: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/17 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: This is great publicity for Craigslist and it would be silly to measure the impact by the number of pageviews for our own page on Craigslist. I think the point Geni was trying to make is that it has indeed raised some interest in Craigslist,

Re: [Foundation-l] advertising craigslist

2009-12-15 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/15 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: If that's true, I am even more against this... what does that say about us? Didn't we have this discussion around Virgin Unite? http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UnNews:Wikimedia_Foundation_to_introduce_paid_editing Craig Newmark's on the WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] My new blog and foundation-l

2009-12-15 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/15 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: Have you added your new blog to Open Wiki Blog Planet and the Wikimedia aggregator? The en:wp arbcom have started messing with the Open Wiki Blog Planet, on the pretext that if the control page is on en:wp then they must own it. Suggest

Re: [Foundation-l] My new blog and foundation-l

2009-12-15 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/15 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/12/15 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com: Have you added your new blog to Open Wiki Blog Planet and the Wikimedia aggregator? I've asked for it to be added to Planet Wikimedia. I've never heard of the other one.

Re: [Foundation-l] some attention regarding our ad placement

2009-12-15 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/15 Judson Dunn cohes...@sleepyhead.org: http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/2009/12/wikis-fundraising-ads-send-wrong-message.html Ah, well. :) Hey, free publicity! *cough* - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/13 Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com: But the best is to use no energy at all : see the OLPC project in Afghanistan (A computer with pedals, like the sewing machines of our great-great-great-grand-mothers) (1) (1)

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/12 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com: The only reason the servers and internet access produce CO2 emissions is because of the defective and antiquated energy production systems we use across the world. As we move towards more efficient and cleaner means of energy production, the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/12/12 masti mast...@gmail.com: W dniu 12.12.2009 22:36, David Gerard pisze: Iceland! Geothermal energy! but we need to cool not to heat our servers :) I think they've got some of that there too ;-) - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/22 Judson Dunn cohes...@sleepyhead.org: And in defense of the bureaucratic morons, you might be surprised the number of super positive generous people that want their work on Wikipedia that are completely unwilling to allow 3rd parties to use their work. I don't personally make people

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/22 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com: I see a lot of well meaning people responding here, but maybe its time to go back to the basics. No non free pictures, period. No more bureaucracy plus cost savings on not having to run the permissions systems. I submit that you aren't

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: Keep in mind that this is not about non-free content, this is not about a possibility that professor didn't understand all consequences of his approval; this is just about The Form. The Bureaucracy. Note, also, that this cooperation exists for four

Re: [Foundation-l] The state of Foundation-l (again) was: Recent firing?

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
This thread should be an illustrative example in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect . - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 wjhon...@aol.com: The reason I asked for no personal attacks is because the above, by you, sounds very much like : You are the problem.  You are a problem. Actually, you are the problem. Your posts to foundation-l of late have pretty much entirely been self-aggrandising noise and

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/5 wjhon...@aol.com: By failing I mean that it never achieved any sort of siginificant presence.  When Wikinews was started it was, imho, to shunt news off the main project into its own space. In your opinion? i.e., not necessarily in anyone else's. Better to re-focus attention on

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/5 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/11/5 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk: We did astonishingly, staggeringly, unbelievably, improbably well with Wikipedia. Failing to replicate that is to be expected; it's unlikely we could deliberately manage such a success without

[Foundation-l] How to make a puzzle globe

2009-11-01 Thread David Gerard
http://www.externaute.net/la-globe-en-puzzle-de-wikipedia-en-realite-3d/1071 - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Sue Gardner nominated for HuffPost media game-changer of the year

2009-10-29 Thread David Gerard
Nominated for having successfully taken the organisation to the next level of professionalism and the influence that gives us. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/huffpost-game-changers-wh_n_337129.html?slidenumber=IYkFqRf71RU%3D#slide_image (Do of course click through the others.) - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-10-27 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/27 Mike.lifeguard mike.lifegu...@gmail.com: You are a long way from proving your point, but I would encourage you to make that request on the talk page of the CheckUser policy page on English Wikipedia so it can be pointed out that while there is a public request process, most

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [SharedKnowing] WatchKnow launches!

2009-10-21 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/20 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Jiri Hofman hofm...@aldebaran.cz wrote: Not free, not own content, not interested. Categorizing content of internet has been repeatedly unsuccessful. Why it should be successful now? It's embedded. It's video!

[Foundation-l] Commercial open content and not quite getting it

2009-10-13 Thread David Gerard
factual.com is a new open data site. Here's a line from the TOS: You may not sell, resell, redistribute, sublicense, or transfer all or any portion of the services or data provided to you through Factual API calls. Yeah, that's open content all right. (fail.) Is there anything we can or should

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/10 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: The ratio of overhead to other expenses isn't always a great meter stick, as Erik mentions.  Nevertheless, one extraordinary aspect of Wikipedia and siblings is how high the efficiency of its core project work is by that measure: 100 billion views /

Re: [Foundation-l] Charity Navigator rates WMF

2009-10-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/10 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, high-school teachers were 90/10 anti Wikipedia 3 years ago, and are slightly in favor of it today.  This sort of thing would be a fascinating survey to run year after

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/30 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: David Gerard wrote: But getting back to the case in question - we're talking about the sort of museum that's actually a government sub-department. Thus, public domain images that the taxpayer has *already paid for*. I see nothing whatsoever

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/28 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk:  From the earlier poster Teofilo:    I disagree. I think the priority is to have the full    resolution pictures of Public Domain works. That seems to be a demand to have the highest resolution copies possible. That sets it out as a goal, not a

Re: [Foundation-l] Announce: Brion moving to StatusNet

2009-09-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/28 Mohamed Magdy mohamed@gmail.com: This really sucks. Hey, we'll all live, and he's alive and well :-) I'm now sending the job opening around my SF contacts ... - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board July 2009

2009-09-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/26 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: Mike Godwin completed a first draft of the revised trademark policy. - Nice.  Does this mean we are closer to a world in which awesome Wikimedia swag is easy to come by... and not through cafepress? [ sorry, CP! :) ] The chapters still can't do

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Wikimedian image restorations exploited on eBay

2009-09-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/22 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: When this thread began I hoped more people would comb the collection in search of copyleft license violations.  We have been losing FP volunteers over license violation problems. That's a large statement, and it needs substantiation to convince.

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Wikimedian image restorations exploited on eBay

2009-09-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/22 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com: No David, I have already stated that the best thing to do at this point is step back and examine the differing assumptions that made this thread nonproductive.  My previous attempts to clarify matters with specific examples led to accusations that I

[Foundation-l] It's not article count, it's editors

2009-09-21 Thread David Gerard
From Erik Zachte: http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/09/partipication-level-a-new-metric/ Hmm. Anyone want to change the front page of www.wikipedia.org accordingly?  ;-) - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Expert board members - a suggestion

2009-09-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/15 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com: This is entirely off-topic, and could be continued in wikitech-l, if you're really eager to tell how you modify compressed files in place. ;-) You can decode bzipped files an arbitrary block at a time (which makes reader apps surprisingly viable

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising Promotion and Job Opening

2009-09-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/17 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net: This doesn't seem quite right to me. average donors may financially be worth less in each donation, but remember that there's a lot more of them, and they're more likely to give repeat donations. Also, there's more to worth than just financial, e.g.

[Foundation-l] Towards written sign languages

2009-09-15 Thread David Gerard
http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/09/16/open-standards-sign-language/ Not quite there yet, but interesting and promising. - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

2009-09-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/13 Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com: I've personally met some of the most prolific posters to Foundation-l, and not one I can think of is the type to dominate a conversation in person. *cough* I am, but consciously try to moderate it. A bit. I'm encouraged by how the discussion's

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees June 2009

2009-09-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/11 Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com: We would love to receive advice on how we can make the chapter work (well) with people so spread across the country (almost all the involved people live in different cities), and since much of the money WMF has was volunteer-contributed, we will take

[Foundation-l] Charities get external video annotation on YouTube

2009-09-11 Thread David Gerard
http://philanthropy.com/news/prospecting/9484/new-youtube-feature-helps-charities-raise-money-with-videos So, any videos we can do this with? - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

2009-09-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/10 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: IMO we need to do that for the projects we already have before we take on new obligations! Oh yesss. We still have very poor software support for: * Commons -- We need a sane upload and post-upload workflow (eg review and deletion), and a clean

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

2009-09-09 Thread David Gerard
the traffic! The point is: it has been done and can be done. And that way, those of us (e.g. me) who hate forums and don't want yet another web page to go to can have it all happen in in our email. So I heartily suggest we go to a forum with a fidelitous email gateway. Alternatively, put David Gerard

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we have a complete set of WMF projects?

2009-09-09 Thread David Gerard
As Erik points out, at a certain point we have to actually write new code to support new ideas. Else projects we could do at Wikimedia becomes projects we can do with a wiki engine. e.g. OpenStreetMap would have been a natural for WMF, but it would have required a whole new software

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:42 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: That would describe the person who started this thread, who has stated elsewhere that anything whatsoever he does on any WMF site is only for the purpose of trolling. Was that the

Re: [Foundation-l] CommonsForce

2009-09-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/7 Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com: I applaud fighting against Copyfraud but will it make sense to educate e.g. the UK National Portrait Gallery? The Hydra Copyfraud has too many heads. There are times when it's prudent to let these things rest in a state of quantum uncertainty,

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com: I wonder what motivates this kind of thread. Do those who regularly seek to pick out any inconsistency or failure to communicate actually /like/ Wikipedia, or do they have some grudge against the whole enterprise? That would describe the person who

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/7 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Geoffrey Plourdegeo.p...@yahoo.com wrote: The Commons Force proposal represents a clear and present danger, both for whoever hosts it and participates in it. It is not for a third party to intervene in a

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal: Commons Force

2009-09-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com: That's a very fair comment. Is it possible to keep my proposal intact and address those issues? Indeed. Just note on CC-by and CC-by-sa that they also make it eligible for Wikipedia. Offer a tickbox for asking Wikipedia reviewers to check your image,

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/6 geni geni...@gmail.com: If you want to get seriously formal there are signpost or signpost like publications in 19 languages on wikipedia which means that informing them is likely to result in significantly wider information distribution among the wikimedia than wikizine. Wikizine

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: I just have to say that I think it is utter and complete nonsense for anyone to ever accuse the Wikimedia Foundation in any serious way of being the kind of organization that tries to hush things up. Too many people attribute to malice what is completely

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/6 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:06 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Too many people attribute to malice what is completely explained by fuckups. Perhaps you should rethink this analysis.  You might be attributing accusations of the latter

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

2009-09-04 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/4 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: Yes, as noted in our 09-10 plan, we are relocating to a new space, as a consequence of which the current satellite office will be re-merged into the new HQ. We're hoping to sublet the Stillman space, once we've covered up the entrance to our secret

Re: [Foundation-l] 31 august, 20 years of our national holiday Our romanian language in Moldova, mo.wikipedia still in cyrillic !

2009-08-31 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/31 Cetateanu Moldovanu cetatean...@gmail.com: I said OUR, OUR country, OUR language, OUR latin script and alphabet. Please respect us. If by respect you mean agree and do what I say ... then I'm not surprised you have no insight as to why no-one cares about your request. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] New board members and officers

2009-08-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/25 geni geni...@gmail.com: Omidyar Network? They were involved with a 4 million funding round for wikia back in 2006 no? http://web.archive.org/web/20060422054638/http://www.americanventuremagazine.com/news.php?newsid=941 Appointing yet another person with wikia links looks kinda dicey

Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar network press release and QA / Board Announcement

2009-08-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/25 Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org: This was also somewhat compounded by the considerable media interest in coverage of some flagged revisions stories (it's important to respond to every request we get - we want to get the story right). Particularly the flagged revisions story, which

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-23 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/23 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: Getting involved overseas isn't the same as colonization. There has been buzz about American colonialism and whatnot but the US has few true colonies and none of any substantial size or population. However, people learning English frequently

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects opened

2009-08-21 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/21 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net: I can speak from a bit of personal experience here. Between the Dutch chapter, Jan-Bart, and people on the technical team like Mark and Roan, the Dutch were well represented at the meetings in Berlin in April. At one point I decided to invade a

Re: [Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia

2009-08-21 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/21 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Milestones are important, especially for PR purposes. We just need to work out which milestones should be emphasised. For small Wikipedias number of articles is probably a good choice, for larger ones, particularly the English Wikipedia, it

[Foundation-l] Leaked UK Ordnance Survey report on freeing map data

2009-08-21 Thread David Gerard
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/New_Digital_Master_Map_for_Great_Britian:_Confidential_Advice_to_Ministers%2C_2009 This is a survey that they didn't want made public, about the costs and benefits of releasing map data. They've clearly fiddled the cost numbers. Now to try to get accountability for the

Re: [Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia

2009-08-20 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/20 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se: David Gerard wrote: Yes, completely. Do other Wikipedias show the same S-curve of growth? I don't think it's an S-curve. I think we are seeing linear growth, with a few exceptions in the very early days (years). But hey, that's growth in the number

Re: [Foundation-l] Missing audio of WMF Board candidates

2009-08-19 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/19 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Nathannawr...@gmail.com wrote: certainly see why it would be frustrating for him: he's much more reasonable in voice chat than over text, and if the audio were widely circulated it's possible he would have come in

Re: [Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia

2009-08-16 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/16 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: For me while interesting, it is hardly new and therefore not that interesting what people like Ed H Chi write about Wikipedia. They do not write about Wikipedia, they write about the English language Wikipedia. Invariably news written about

Re: [Foundation-l] Lack of research on Wikipedia

2009-08-16 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/16 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no: I would guess that the most important reason why english wikipedia is slowing down is because of the other language projects gets the attention of the editors. perhaps it would be possible to get some numbers on the total influx of content and how it

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copypasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/13 David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.com: I would be exceedingly uncomfortable with us organizing a negative campaign against any publisher not actually violating our copyright. .  A factual campaign, providing information is another matter. It would be entirely appropriate for

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copypasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/14 Renata St renataw...@gmail.com: As long as the books give sufficient indication that they are from Wikipedia, ... Inside the book -- yes, plenty of indication about copying. But nothing to warn you before you buy. People are buying these books tricked into thinking it's an

[Foundation-l] Wiktionary logo competition makes b3ta

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
Our logo competitions have landed us such excellent trademarks as the puzzle globe, the WMF logo and the MediaWiki flower. But most entries are an excellent demonstration of why graphic designers are paid money. This one did make the b3ta newsletter, though. Could be a very profitable bit of

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiktionary logo competition makes b3ta

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/14 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: David Gerard wrote: Our logo competitions have landed us such excellent trademarks as the puzzle globe, the WMF logo and the MediaWiki flower. But most entries are an excellent demonstration of why graphic designers are paid money. Sigh

Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copypasted books from Wikipedia

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/14 Renata St renataw...@gmail.com: Inside the book -- yes, plenty of indication about copying. But nothing to warn you before you buy. People are buying these books tricked into thinking it's an original content. Yuh. Point it out in reviews etc. Exactly, except that there are

[Foundation-l] It is vital to stamp out citizen journalism. Or claim to.

2009-08-14 Thread David Gerard
When you're competing with your own fans, you're ... in trouble. http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1027680.ece - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/12 Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org: I'm not sure what the technical challenges you had in mind are, but I can think of plenty of reasons to argue against hotlinking and I don't want to let the point slip by. A few: The ones who want hotlinking want it as a way of making the images not

Re: [Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/10 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net: Didn't you ever play Monopoly? The point is that this is not a zero-sum game. If Knol and Citizendium and OpenSite get it together and rocket to #1, #2 and #3 websites, that'll be a fulfilment of our mission: Imagine a world in which every single

Re: [Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/10 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com: Some weeks ago I had an opportunity to talk with a Google employee about a number of topics.  One of the things we discussed was Knol. Setting aside the way it may have been marketed in the popular press at the time, she suggested that Google does not

Re: [Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/10 Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com: It's entirely possible for there to be a Gresham's Law with regard to collaborative encyclopedias, in my view. Encyclopedia Dramatica is indeed the only way to keep up with 4chan ... - d. ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Knol, a year later

2009-08-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/7 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: More than a year ago Google lunched Knol. It was a sensation then (BTW, it was a sensation for more time than Wolfram Alpha was). Today I just may say that I don't remember when I heard for the Knol last time. Well, Wolfram Alpha is occasionally

Re: [Foundation-l] Upcoming tech hiring: CTO position split

2009-08-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/7 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: It's not bad to have an internal pattern, but I think it's more important to match the practices in industry. By containing the magic words senior and architect the proposed Senior Software Architect is, in my experience, not inconsistent with

Re: [Foundation-l] Stevertigo

2009-07-31 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/31 stevertigo stv...@gmail.com: Note also that anytime someone is blocked/moderated from a public or open list, its a common-sense requirement that the list be given notification of the block/moderation, along with an explanation of why. This is standard practice on wikien-l, and I

Re: [Foundation-l] The end of donations

2009-07-31 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/31 stevertigo stv...@gmail.com: My impression is that Wikimedia currently lives year to year on donations, and that reserves are sufficient to pay a skeleton crew of fundraisers.  I'm sure its been discussed before though, but yes, it would seem to make sense for Wikimedia -

[Foundation-l] On attracting newbies and making them effective

2009-07-26 Thread David Gerard
Denise from dreamwidth.org - she's talking about software development, but it's certainly apposite to the discussions here recently: http://denise.dreamwidth.org/23600.html - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Analysis of statistics

2009-07-25 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/25 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: I have quite opposite experiences. One of them had become Wikimedian with 16-17 and two years later became a steward (by passing elections with ~95% of support). Yes. We must keep in mind that the Wikimedia projects attract some *ridiculously* smart,

[Foundation-l] CC attribution with cut'n'pasted text - Tynt's Tracer Tool

2009-07-24 Thread David Gerard
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/16060 Basically, if you cut'n'paste text, it appends a CC credit line to the pasted text. Obviously the paster can remove it, but it does remind them this is licensed, not PD. Worth using for our stuff? A bit obnoxious? What do you think? - d.

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