)
(And of course the standard of comparison could be better of two evils.
For instance if the crystal ball says a wiki project dies due to fading
attention then maybe chat and patrolling is net harmful but less harmful
than eventual loss)
FT2
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:09 PM, David Richfield
davidrichfi
Yes. I had thought about one option - a separate website entirely, purely
for people to chat about Wikimedia articles. But at a first glance that
dead ends for so many reasons.
FT2
2012/1/24 Johan Jönsson brevlis...@gmail.com
FT2:
- costs will be the distraction from working on high
get into.
However you label them, whatever means and venue we were to use, the third
of those is where the question mark goes.
FT2
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure; if the objective is to have comments by people who are interested in
the subject
Already in hand :)
FT2
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
I would like to thank Geoff Brigham for the excellent job he did analysing
the consequences of SOPA for wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Legal_overview
Would
to the public and avoid pressure (even if we wouldn't succumb).
That's our support. It means although we have some shared wishes and broad
alignments of interest, we must be very careful to think outside the box
somewhat on these issues. It's what we've done the last 11 years.
FT2
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012
to efficiently obtaining sufficient funds
for these possible future needs, and should do so in a manner compatible
with and balanced against the goals of our movement.
FT2
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Joan Goma jrg...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com
Why does
I said to her when temporarily hired that the Foundation could not have
chosen anyone better for the role :)
She is superb.
FT2
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Philippe Beaudette
phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi all,
I'm thrilled to announce that Maggie Dennis, our community liaison, has
The question is, do you plan to migrate the major search engines and DNS
servers? If so, then migration might help.
FT2
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com
wrote:
Next time we should just migrate and fork to a jurisdiction
outside the US control
Point of information: - are proposals mooted for an alternative DNS root?
Presumably, since satellite proposals exist and those are even more radical.
FT2
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Come the SOPAcalypse, the DNS root will fragment. I wonder
was the closers deciding to close it in line with a technical
request from developers to allow them 48 hours and hence make a decision by
the 16th. There was a month when it was open before then.
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to
close this by X date given politics? Probably. Live and learn, consensus
was apparent and agreed, and.. yeah, the process could be smoother another
time. Maybe in another 11 years . :)
FT2
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:27 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.comwrote:
In a sense, nobody
Kremlin *We have Putin! So they now try to beat us with SOPA!*/kremlin
Me neither :)
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On the Russian Wikipedia, the banner is showing you
(sorry, couldn't resist)
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learn about by virtue of exclusion from equal handling.
I know which of these stances I respect more.
FT2
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
The Foundation considers de:wp's careful and thoughtful decision to
put [[:de:vulva]] on the front page
not at the
server) without actual access to their computer.
FT2
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:09 PM, dex2...@pc.dk wrote:
In the unhappy event that this filter is enabled, will it be
possible/allowed for a community to make its use mandatory and to
punish readers who turn it off?
Sir48/Thyge
Predictable result - half the world gains the impression that Wikipedia has
been bought out / sold out.
FT2
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hello, you can make Wikimedia as famous
A more plausible option is to make WMF more conspicuous. Right now it's
almost unknown that WP is part of a wider project.
Wikipedia | Wikiquote | Wikispecies | ...
An educational website of the Wikimedia Foundation
[Button: View all our projects in your language]
FT2
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011
a few years down the line.
At least criteria are to be put in place now than never. For chapters in
good order they should not be an issue.
FT2
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi,
There is fundraising together and there is fundraising perse
I've had a go at some basic editing to the [[WP:OWN]] page to try and
explain a bit better, rather than simply saying IF YOU EDIT, YOU DO NOT OWN
THE PAGE! It still needs considerable work. Eyeballs and improvements...?
FT2
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar
as well.
If the subject matter is valid, and there is something to say that makes an
entry useful, length is secondary, that can change over time.
FT2
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM, WereSpielChequers
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
I wouldn't describe a short article as hardly useful
on this - but the policy, rights, traditions, choice of license,
and endorsement of other sites doing so in practice, is our way of ensuring
a practical commitment is made.
FT2
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm taking part in an images discussion workshop with a number
Endorse Foundation action on this obvious bad-faith domain which trades off
the name and domain of Wikipedia and the proportion of users who will
mis-spell it.
Is there a way to identify the most common other mis-spellings and how
common they are?
FT2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:40 PM, HW waihor
-Tia-mM_mhaDtdHyHoxU5ce1TDLb2Mvm-aUgasm6kxWqglvKYI0WSzhXa-i6nmbtadbbVpt4BNSBzekfJpryNmPCFC7VzvyF42ZKeX7rENwP5uCUvC24dDfGzVlsig=AHIEtbSKuqmmggNFiXz_hjIquy8QLluFlQindeed.
FT2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote:
FT2, 01/06/2011 15:01:
Endorse Foundation
, or when writing a professional
letter (eg to a professional magazine or colleague)
FT2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
wrote:
Across all markets a surprising 75% of doctors in the 51-60 age
I always took the central point about conflation to be the unwitting mixing
up of separate ideas - usually but not always to the mild confusion or
detriment of both.
FT2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
And Larry Sanger and Magnus may be remembered
Information is educational. When I read Wikinews, it educates me as to
significant matters going on in the world, and provides other related
resources.
FT2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikimedia projects are curated and edited collections, according
being affected.
No surprises, much as anyone expected. Endorsement of not-very-contentious
conclusion.
FT2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:52 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 June 2011 21:35, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me if I find these resolutions rather toothless
unlikely
expectations that will eventually be dashed. For example, agreeing with a
perception that I didn't find accurate because it would please you.
FT2
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.ptwrote:
Thank you guys. I knew you wouldn't let me down.
You
I don't get this.
Would it be possible in future, if the sites are unresponsive, or will be
unresponsive due to planned maintenance, to establish a fallback that simply
displays an explanatory status message to the public?
FT2
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Tim Starling tstarl
In future can I have vanilla and strawberry with that? :)
FT2
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote:
In future we will have five nines availability and no downtimes will
happen.
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have that kind of use, perception, stature -- and a
similar scale of response within the general public if it suddenly doesn't
work. Most members of the public do not have the insight you or I would.
FT2
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011
As a non-tech, don't all reads (at least) pass through the squids, so we can
identify and report in a nice way a lot of connection errors at that point?
/ignoreifnaive
FT2
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
There are dozens of places where error
no less.
Instead of complaining, you might like to notice how your own attitudes lead
to fairly predictable results, and a genuine, noticeable and enduring change
of them changes the results.
FT2
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.ptwrote:
Furthermore, if someone
keepable BLP, or a minute's web searching.
A few may need Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, but I suspect not many. Only a
very small minority will not be easily identified with a means of email or
other direct contact within a few minutes.
Worth it, I think.
FT2
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:02 PM
on any
issues they notice, and try to help.
Maybe we can design a possible email, experiment on a couple of batches of
30 - 50 newly created and older BLPs, and see what happens?
FT2
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I'm not so sure. As much
inclined to endorse defeatism.
FT2
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
We could solve that by hosting only BLPs that have already had
encyclopedic or extensive treatment elsewhere, i.e. have already been
the subject of (a) an encyclopedia article; or (b) a book
later?
Just curious which of these is litigable or in contempt, and which is not.
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/ the
jurisdiction you were in when you took the alleged breaking action, or 4/
the ability of local legal process to access you, in deciding what's legally
actionable?
Lawyers welcomed :) Curiosity and enlightenment more than anything.
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are tied) or worrying
(because of the severity it implies) in copyright terms..
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On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:28 PM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
One might want to factor in a Google News Case in Belgium that dealt
with which laws apply where:
http://www.barrysookman.com/2011/05
-- and it
is US law that governs Wikimedia.
FT2
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:07 PM, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
Welcome to the problem of Orphan Works. what you have to show is that
either of the following is true?
(i) the author of which is a citizen of India; or
(ii) which is first published
and reviewer
rights. Also you'd want chat logs as an item in *Special:Log* so that all
chats of this kind are on the record. As a bonus feature, the
infrastructure to invite other users to join a chat (eg to add extra
expertize or to mediate a minor disagreement) would be worth noting for
future.
FT2
On Sun
that's a lesson most democratic countries
could learn from us, not the other way round.
*8 Scary thoughts aren't they?
*
No. I don't find them scary at all. Thanks for them.
FT2
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:28 AM, WereSpielChequers
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
In reply to Virgilio's
.
Click OK to confirm if you mean to do this or HELP ME to talk to an
experienced user*...
... *then* I will agree we are making progress.
FT2
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
In fact a lot of those issues are spelled out very clearly. See
[[WP:BLOGS]] for whether
Thread title?
FT2
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:27 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
See the current thread on wikitech-l about how chronically broken
most site JavaScript is and what to do about the problem
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I'm not seeing discussion of chronically broken code there. Just
discussion of redundant code (due to 1.17) and cleanup. Any chance of a
pointer to something that sums up the chronically broken nature of site
script?
FT2
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:41 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote
style.
FT2
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
Do we know how many editors still use Monobook?
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(after checking for obvious duplicates) and allow
them to vote. Again may be more trouble than it's worth, but it is
important to consider if readers may have a say in what matters at the
election. After all they are whom the project and all of our efforts are
aimed at supporting.
FT2
2011/3/20
on what the community cares about. Matters that the
community cares about will have received a specific comment from each
candidate. The community can compare candidates' views on specific issues
of wide interest, and vote based on the candidates' specific views on these.
FT2
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011
readers vote, scale it
as the agreed proportion of the cast votes.
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as a byproduct. Not a big point but a plus)
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote:
I do also think giving people voting rights based only on
being 'readers' basically means giving it out to random people
for the
world as a whole, ie non-members (by that definition), and that is where our
focus should always ultimately end up.
FT2
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.comwrote:
2011/3/20 marcos tal_t...@yahoo.es:
I agree with FT2. Give right to vote to the donors
.
FT2
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.comwrote:
Not so quick - I am paying fees, for Wikimedia Nederland and Wikimedia
Deutschland. Would you say that they are not Wikimedia?`:-)
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Thumb placed on problem.
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:33 PM, WereSpielChequers
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we ... forget that becoming part of the community is a process
and state of mind rather than a single event.
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On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:09 AM, brock.wel...@gmail.com
brock.wel...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with helping wikiprojects collaborate but couldn't disagree more
with making them more powerful or in charge of certain wikis
standard. It carries no formal
powers, but by peer pressure alone encourages improvement generally.
Two ideas.
FT2
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Sat, 26/2/11, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com
The contradiction resolves in that routinely means commonly not
automatically. Your 2nd paragraph says it -- a carrot that required the
acquisition of editorial skills that were within the reach of just about
anyone who applied herself, and which passed the scrutiny of the community
as good
methods. If you can draw on a pool of a few thousand users
whose capability and appropriate behavior can largely be assumed.
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neutrally, ask about policy related issues, be
fair and courteous, etc.
FT2
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote:
Are you suggesting something like a second, parallel arbcom if the
first has finally stalled?
This was also a part of the discussion
/ the US govt is not the only such body (other groups receiving
federal funds?) and 2/ we ourselves have a genuine interest in ensuring we
think hard how those with disabilities experience Wikimedia in everyday use,
when creating our platform.
FT2
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Ting Chen
they offer significant variant choices of
value to a licensor that other licenses don't offer. They reduce benefit
when they divide free X into proliferated mutually incompatible X's,
divided by use and reuse conditions that confuse or cause difficulty.
FT2
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM
about them, and choices about resources used on them?
Without that kind of level of data it's not possible to say whether the
conceptual structure being created is excellent, poor, has loopholes, can be
improved, or misses the point. It becomes a set of truisms or jargon.
FT2
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011
,
and it can be expected, and it can happen here as well. You'd be surprised
how fast people learn when it's needed to do what they want.
FT2
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.netwrote:
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:14 AM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com
wrote
by *both admins
and non-admins* (no reason to give excess leeway to long term non-admins to
harm the project by discouraging bona-fide users, any more than we would
give excess leeway to long-term repeated mis-citers or persistent original
researchers).
FT2
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:07 AM, FT2 ft2.w
to the mission
by working as staff is the other.
Hope this is of use or interest. Peace.
FT2
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:00 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
It's not about assuming that Wikimedia's positions are wrong, that's a
bad
and unfair characterization. But Wikimedia has a tendency
/firefox/vpat-3.html
and
http://www.mozilla.org/access/section508
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Yes x 2.
But keep the links simple, so extended subdomains (en.wp.wmf.org) is too
long. Just one domain, and let the shortener cover all wikis not just one.
FT2
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Alison M. Wheeler
wikime...@alisonwheeler.com wrote:
An alternative would be to create the link
People will want to link to permalinks.
8 chars, 64 character set (a-z A-Z 0-9 and 2 others). Unlikely to run out
for the foreseeable future.
FT2
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Jiri Hofman hofm...@aldebaran.cz wrote:
Since (26*2+10)**5 = 916132832 , five chars should be enough for all
on the open mailing list, but if the idea is
worth trying, I'm sure we'll find out to whom to send suggestions.
FT2
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:56 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
David Gerard wrote:
On 11 February 2011 11:30, Mingli Yuan mingli.y...@gmail.com wrote:
So I just want
wikis for the
kind of proposal you have. Perhaps set up a wiki on a wiki
farmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_farm
?
FT2
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.comwrote:
Forwarded to the whole list on behalf of a non-member.
-- Forwarded message
Winrar's your best bet. Other archivers may be equally good.
FT2
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:53 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/14/2010 8:21:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
steven.wall...@gmail.com writes:
This is fantastic, and the timing could not be better.
If anyone
Would prefer on its own wiki as this is comprehensive up to a given date.
Maybe January2001.wikipedia.org -- immediate impact.
(DNS software cannot handle 2001.wikipedia.org)
FT2
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Tim
See see also etc in [[History of Wikipedia]].
FT2
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:27 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
FYI, there is an existing timeline at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_timeline
And lots of other wikipedia history pages on English, too.
:)
Phoebe
is not an
inclusion policy.
(*Reductio ad absurdum *version: - many articles are kept with just a
handful (5) sources; this implies mainstream did not notice them,
therefore NPOV would say we don't notice them either? No.)
FT2.
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote
may wish to make a stand though. (without dragging WP/M
into it).
FT2
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 11, 2010, at 12:31 AM, Robert Tice robti...@gmail.com wrote:
I suggest that use of Paypal is contraindicated due to their
deliberate
efforts
a real name *by pt-arbcom*.
But nobody has said you were or weren't.
Hope this helps?
FT2
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.ptwrote:
1) No real names will be disclosed on this list on account of the request
made.
2) No action is asked or expected
Sure (and in reply to your off-list mail, it's fine, easily done).
The questions seemed genuine and seeking a genuine explanation. If it's been
covered elsewhere that's good enough.
FT2
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.comwrote:
FT2,
Please let it go - I
too. Check it out, if you like,
but please don't publicize a list.
FT2
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.ptwrote:
Still practicing, after all these years.
From the information provided to this list, it is reasonable to
assume that other wikipedians, besides
possible. But if the user's username is their real name then it will be
named in the case for that reason.
FT2
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 2:53 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not aware of cases on English Wikipedia which are named after the
person except where that person used
.
legitimate and notable by facebook, twitter and blogs?
przykuta
legitimate as any kind of inclusion criterion at all?
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On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.ptwrote:
The only Wikipedian that has been dealt with by an arbcom by his real
name, NOT his user name!
This tag line is extremely inaccurate, for what it's worth.
FT2
not be useful to the reader but is
given because it is possibly helpful.
FT2
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado v...@fct.unl.ptwrote:
Let's see if perfect practice makes perfect.
The quoted tag line, The only Wikipedian that has been dealt with by
an arbcom by his real
with in the past.)
FT2
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
When a person says by an arbcom it implies by one of several arbcoms that
exist. The word an (um/uma) suggests one of several/many.
Perhaps more accurately by the Portuguese Wikipedia Arbcom?
The term for what
is because as a charitable foundation, WMF can
deliver its mission far more if it identifies providers of those skills at
commercial rates, pays them, and acquires funds by donation to do so, than
if it sought to obtain those services without pay by volunatry effort.
FT2
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5
I drafted this. It still seems the best approach in terms of keeping good
editing and reducing problematic editing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/Commercial_and_paid_editing
FT2
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:05 AM, David Goodman dgoodma...@gmail.comwrote:
Most current paid editing gets
as the Wikimedia mission isn't just build a website but make available
free knowledge. In that context people willing to care matter, as an
integral part of the mission.
FT2
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:17 PM, luke lenny lennybodom
would be my questions. They may be fine, but they are the ones I would
focus on as deciders, given that bandwidth and tech support will probably
not be a huge factor (use their own server or make a spare one available?).
FT2
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:56 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
Should we
the
job..
FT2
On 11/12/10, Hans A. Rosbach hans.a.rosb...@gmail.com wrote:
We have become the superpower, and that gives us a moral obligation to think
beyond our own projects. Among the things we ought to be wary of is
monoculture. If Wikipedia becomes the only source for encyclopaedic
Point her to this thread? If it isn't needed this time it may be
salient not too far in future for other things.
FT2
On 11/12/10, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Probably we should ask Danese first, she'd have to make sure we had
the techs and resources on hand for the hosting
papers are forming their own
view. So the factors going into that are crucial to assess the quality and
basis of that view and reliance a reader may wish to personally place on it.
FT2
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:22 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 November 2010 12:26, David Gerard dger
it. So in principle this is always true even in specific cases it doesn't
happen.
FT2
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:44 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:28 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Not so. The difference is we document reliable sources, we don't create
them
Works for me.
FT2
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
I think you have hit the nail on the head. Now we just need to drive it
in
the rest of the way.
These ethics standards serve the ideal of communicating reliable
knowledge to readers
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