Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Consider the number of links that are possible from a travel experience to an encyclopaedic experience .. !! Travelling has always been considered educational. Thanks, Gerard On 9 April 2012 18:39, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote: I think I would consider it educational.

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The WikiData project is at first very much technical. Software is developed and as the software gains a certain level of maturity, a community will start to grow. This community will slowly but surely become integrated with other Wikimedia projects. At this stage all eyes are on Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Commons as a project provides a service to any and all projects. It does have its own community but as Commons is a shared resource it is similar but not the same in its autonomy. This should be obvious . Thanks, Gerard On 13 March 2012 08:23, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you consider that the current proposal is for a system where it takes one click to see something anyway, I do think the notion that something is not knowable is over the top. Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 14:07, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2012 12:28,

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
it at that? Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 15:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 March 2012 13:55, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: When you consider that the current proposal is for a system where it takes one click to see something anyway, I do think

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In the Netherlands we have our own bible belt.. it is not exclusive to the USA Thanks, Gerard On 12 March 2012 16:43, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: The bible belt phrase that some people throw around in this discussion is just a stand-in for anti-Americanism and a sign of profound

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is Arbcom is actively promoting Wikipedia Review?

2012-03-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This would in my opinion be more appropriate on the Wikipedia-l. This list is for foundation related subjects. Thanks, GerardM On 11 March 2012 12:19, Robert Alvarez vez...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone explain why Arbcom members are not required to refrain from posting and responding

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2012-03-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, With all due respect, there are plenty of images that do not particularly add to the sum of all wisdom. There are plenty of images in that category that do not add anything at all to what is already there. Commons has as its motto: a database of

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2012-03-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
:01, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.comwrote: Am 09.03.2012 15:50, schrieb Thomas Morton: On 9 March 2012 14:47, Tobias Oelgartetobias.oelgarte@**googlemail.comtobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 09.03.2012 15:34, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: The question you have to ask

Re: [Foundation-l] EFE: Indigenous languages entering Wikipedia

2012-02-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
articles should we reach to apply for the LangCom? [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BBzxiofuz4 Osmar Valdebenito Gaete Presidente de Wikimedia Chile http://www.wikimediachile.cl 2012/2/20 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, This sounds like a great initiative. I am sure

Re: [Foundation-l] EFE: Indigenous languages entering Wikipedia

2012-02-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This sounds like a great initiative. I am sure that the language committee will aim to help you as much as possible. The language policy is designed to ensure that new projects have an optimal chance of success. There are a few things that we require from you. They are that you localise the

Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, MediaWiki supports an input method for German in the Narayam extension. There is no need for alt key codes typing German... This was possibly created by Erik in anticipation of this need. Then again, it may be easier to refer to him as Erik. When this is not precise enough you could add the

Re: [Foundation-l] New project: WikiMake - library of free 3D models?

2012-02-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you consider a new project, it is important to consider how it will fit in. Just being able to have 3d images makes sense when people can view them. Making them only available does not strike me as that interesting. Working on such models is probably more interesting. The question then

Re: [Foundation-l] iBooks vs. wBooks?

2012-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I think we should not support Apple in breaking the standard and in preventing us from using our work anywhere else. We take pride in being freely licensed and there is no excuse for the walled garden approach taken by Apple. There is also no excuse for us endorsing this behaviour. Obviously

Re: [Foundation-l] iBooks vs. wBooks?

2012-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
(almost all non-Apple) with no problems. We've even turned some of them into interactive web pages. I haven't heard of this software breaking the current standard so much as further enabling HTML5 within it - but I could be wrong. -greg On Jan 25, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

2012-01-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, A comment section under every Wikipedia article seems to be a very bad idea. You read a Wikipedia article to learn about the subject at hand, you can read comments on the talk page. Reading the talk page only makes sense when you are interested in learning more about what people have to say

Re: [Foundation-l] Duolingo, potential way of getting good quality translations?

2012-01-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is nice but it is from English to Spanish and seriously, we support 280+ languages so it is interesting but not that relevant. Thanks, Gerard On 16 January 2012 02:19, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just found this today, from New Scientist: learn a language,

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I felt inspired to write this ... http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/01/wikilivres.html Thanks, Gerard On 13 January 2012 16:32, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, 2012/1/9 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:22 AM, David Gerard

Re: [Foundation-l] Still wikipediocentric

2012-01-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It was a bad plan to create a Wikipedia in all these languages. It is made worse by not creating wikis that have an equivalent on any of the other WMF projects. When you think that the other projects are treated fairly, please reconsider. What is clear is that what I used to call the other

Re: [Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator

2011-12-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Tim, how hard is it to create a missing DNS entry for a language code that is eligible under the language policy? Thanks, Gerard On 23 December 2011 01:24, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 23/12/11 09:44, Milos Rancic wrote: This is great news! In the sense of

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filtering without undermining the category system

2011-11-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The category system is as far as I am concerned of little interest. It is as far as I am concerned not helpful for Selecting one from a bunch. It is a sick dog and it is in misery. Thanks, GerardM On 14 October 2011 01:14, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] TVTropes policies: No such thing as notability.

2011-11-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The term lumper and splitter are used for ages in the world of nomenclature. Really it is more expressive and less officious. Thanks, Gerard On 17 November 2011 01:03, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 November 2011 18:35, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: Sometimes

Re: [Foundation-l] MENA Education Program?

2011-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For reasons that are not in line with the policies of the language committee, the board has refused to allow new projects in any of the Arabic languages. The Language policy allows for this; the WMF board will decide if it will allow a new project when there are issues, any issues. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Who *doesn't* suffer from adminitis these days?

2011-11-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Apparently I do not suffer because as an admin I should know what RFC/U or WP:WQA or RFA is. Or is it only when I meet people who know their acronyms that I suffer ? Thanks, GerardM On 7 November 2011 13:48, Fae f...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Does anyone feel that the Wikiquette is too

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
October 2011 12:17, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.comwrote: -- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 21:40:37 +0200 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove To: f

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:05:37 +0100 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: CAO53wxVzz79KghtsAQe=YSacVtEL5XQuqfgA9nKt+2

Re: [Foundation-l] the choice of what is going to be developed is very much a management issue;

2011-10-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I totally agree that Commons needs tagging and that such tagging will do much more to help people find the illustrations they are looking for then the current category and whatever system. WereSpielCheckers we agree on this. Now let us concentrate on things where we can win. When Commons has

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that the English Wikipedia has a problem, its page views is going down for instance, there is a well documented division between the oldies and the newbies. There is a natural attrition as well as open conflict resulting in their being not as many editors as there used to be. Wikilove,

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am happy to make a distinction of what I do officially and what I say because I am personally of a particular opinion. This is very much my personal opinion. There have been LOADS of opportunities where the community is asked, begged to be involved in what will be the way forward. The most

Re: [Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-10-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am here in Los Angeles with Amir. We have discussed the dead sea scrolls extensively. We discussed transcription, fonts appropriate for such old texts. The use of the text. Do you believe that the suggestion for transcription was made by someone from the museum at Wikimania? That Amit is

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

2011-09-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
that browser language preferences and location are anything but a surefire predictor of language preference. 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely

[Foundation-l] Happy Rosh Hashanah and happy Dussehra

2011-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Today it is both Rosh Hashanah and the start of Dussehra. It is also the first time that the Wikimedia Localisation team is coming together. We are still waiting for Santhosh his flight has been delayed... We will be planning what to do, when to do it and how we can get the most out of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

2011-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho. However, it has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing. Thanks, GerardM 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] [Langcom-l] Ancient Greek reconstructed an analysis of a proposal for a new Wikipedia

2011-09-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The language policy does not allow for Wikipedia in extinct languages. However, a Wikisource for the old Greek languages does make sense. When such a Wikisource would be created, the user interface would by default not be in modern Greek because more people study old Greek outside Greece

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, With the strategic plan it is clear and obvious that the WMF intends to expand. It is clear that India and Brazil get serious attention. With the creation of the localisation team there is now substantial attention for language issues and language technology. This will make the technological

Re: [Foundation-l] Rename proposal of Kurdish wikipedia

2011-09-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The argument for or against using ku.wikipedia.org are interesting but at this time rather irrelevant.There is a long list of pending name changes waiting to happen. Also we are quite happy to keep codes that are in fact representing macro languages like ar or Arabic. Thanks, GerardM

Re: [Foundation-l] help openstreetmap to translate their license ...

2011-08-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Much of OpenStreetMap is localised at translatewiki.net ... A license can be translated as well. Given that OSM is already done at twn, it is just another addition. Thanks, GerardM On 22 August 2011 00:30, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: hi, openstreetmap tries to

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is fundraising together and there is fundraising perse. What is at issue is that chapters are and have always been expected to disclose their activities, providing financial statements. They are expected to be accountable and many chapters have largely not been accountable. The

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

2011-08-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is nothing wrong with the term incubating; it indicates forcefully that we want full projects in those languages. A test wiki is even more ambiguous because we have things like test.wikis for new software. Having a landing page with texts in languages that are likely to be understood

Re: [Foundation-l] Note about Huib and LangCom

2011-08-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi. The committee is doing its things. Working on archiving is peripheral to our work and consequently the answer to your question is the committee working has an unreserved YES. Thanks, GerardM 2011/8/10 Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com I'm afraid you didn't get my questions.

Re: [Foundation-l] Note about Huib and LangCom

2011-08-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Because nobody else is interested in doing this. He is a full member of the language committee he does import data from Incubator into new projects. It is known that he has been framed multiple times and it is proven conclusively for the last time when this was attempted For more

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011-07-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Macro languages are nicely defined. They are languages that used to be recognised at one time as a single language but are found to be a combination of multiple languages. Kicking the idea of macro-languages is daft; it is not only a result of the work of SIL it is more the consequence of the

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011-07-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So you understand what a macro language is. Why the kicking then ? Thanks, GerardM On 12 July 2011 10:59, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 08:03, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Macro languages are nicely defined. They are languages

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If you do not trust the person involved, you are crazy to send him a copy of your passport. This is a common sense. This policy as it obviously works.. what is really your issue ? Do we really need a theoretical approach that only can bring us less functionality ? I do not think so. Thanks,

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

2011-06-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
2011 13:27, Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com wrote: On 28 June 2011 08:35, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I have read the replies that are against social networking functionality. In my opinion you are all missing the point. Our projects are crowd sourced

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

2011-06-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi. Wikipedia should be more like a social network. It provides us with the opportunity to reach out to people when we want to crowd source some activity. We have a problem in retaining people particular newbies. When we show a social side

Re: [Foundation-l] It Is not Us

2011-06-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi. Wikipedia should be more like a social network. It provides us with the opportunity to reach out to people when we want to crowd source some activity. We have a problem in retaining people particular newbies. When we show a social side to our work on open content (not only encyclopaedic

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 87, Issue 78

2011-06-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Hear, hear !! Thanks, GerardM On 25 June 2011 07:29, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Sue Gardner writes: Would inviting Matt to join create perception problems? Probably not among external stakeholders because donors serving on boards is fairly normal in non-profit land,

Re: [Foundation-l] Global ban - poetlister?

2011-06-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Studies are expensive, often a time waster. They provide some kind of legitimacy and is asked for when you do not really want to accept a verdict from someone else. The board has a function and it CAN make decisions. The issue here is that exceptionally there are people who are poisonous and

Re: [Foundation-l] Request: WMF commitment as a long term cultural archive?

2011-06-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is the explicit goal of the Wikimedia Foundation to make information available for as long as it exist. In addition to this, there are several copies at the Internet Archive. If there is no statement that satisfies your need, it will not be hard for the WMF board to come up with one.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] CTO Leaving Wikimedia Foundation end of July

2011-06-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This is a sad day. Thanks, Gerard On 2 June 2011 18:23, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, It is with considerable regret that I inform you of my planned departure from the Wikimedia Foundation at the end of July. I’ve really enjoyed my time here, and I’m proud of what

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Having projects that rely on volunteers does not mean that what they do is without consequence. The policy of the language committee insists on requirements. They have to be met. One of the things we consider is the involvement of native speakers ... In the language committee we are

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Leave off. Foundation-l is a place where relevant subjects can be raised. It is a place that has a bad reputation among some because of the aggressive tone. When Dror complains about stalking, it is a valid point of concern. It is the reason why some people I admire left our community. When

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Agreed. Thanks, GerardM On 22 May 2011 10:38, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2011/5/22 Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com: That said, to me, I don't see any stalking whatsoever. It is common when investigating sockpuppets to send evidence privately to other

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native...

2011-05-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Please read about the Chinese language and writing system. It helps you to understand. Thanks, GerardM On 22 May 2011 18:42, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/22/2011 4:38:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, smole...@eunet.rs writes: Aren't these languages written with

[Foundation-l] The UploadWizard is now the default interface for uploading images.

2011-05-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you are uploading pictures the UploadWizard will provide the new default interface. It has a much more intuitive interface and, you can upload 10 pictures at a time. Enjoy !! It is in my opinion a big step forward. Thanks, GerardM ___

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: Do WMF want enwp.org?]

2011-05-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The wp.org is probably for sale ... It makes more sense to acquire that domain. Thanks, GerardM On 8 May 2011 15:18, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] Promotional material about the user's activities outside Wikipedia, nothing useful to Wikipedia

2011-04-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Mike is a well know activist who promotes Open Source and Wikipedia in Albania and Kosovo. People do know him and will find the information he provides. Thanks, GerardM On 25 April 2011 22:55, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Hi there, look guys someone deleted my pages

Re: [Foundation-l] Baidu Baike Wikipedia 百度百科與維基百科 (英文)

2011-04-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The best thing regarding the Chinese Wikipedia is that the last few months the traffic has been growing astoundingly. This to an extend where in traffic Chinese is now the tenth wikipedia in traffic. In the end it is not about Baidu, it is about bringing great NPOV information to the

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [cultural-partners] Aggregator

2011-04-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am so bold and forward this message about our blog aggregator in Spanish... It does need attention but I have no clue who to approach.. Thanks, GerardM -- Forwarded message -- From: Leigh Thelmadatter osama...@hotmail.com I left a message on meta, but Ive gotten

Re: [Foundation-l] Marjon Bakker working for Wikimedia Nederland

2011-04-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Marion has not only been involved as a board member and the secretary of the Dutch chapter, she has also been really successful working for Kennisnet where she supported many educational projects that struggled to fit MediaWiki in their plans. In addition to that she has worked for several

[Foundation-l] Toolserver has its Internationalisation

2011-04-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really happy to announce that the first Toolserver tools can now be localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks to the hard work of Krinkle the first tools make use of the Intuition messaging framework. People who know Toolserver, will know that there are many useful tools that help

Re: [Foundation-l] LiquidThreads redesign?

2011-04-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You do not ask a serious question on a day like today.. Thanks, GerardM On 1 April 2011 17:29, shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wrote: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads#Status The original LiquidThreads code has been substantially improved and augmented by Andrew

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: Less writers on wikipedia due to agression (dutch)

2011-03-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, They are national radio and television. They are particularly influential with the young. Thanks, GerardM On 30 March 2011 22:26, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: See

Re: [Foundation-l] Editors survey and gender

2011-03-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have asked women from different communities about this, I have asked men from different communities about this. For some languages the compromise is not one of selecting either but using unnatural language. For some languages women indicate that not being addressed properly makes them less

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

2011-03-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I could not disagree more. Thanks, GerardM On 21 March 2011 15:21, brock.wel...@gmail.com brock.wel...@gmail.comwrote: It's a chicken and egg thing. The elections arent important so they dont know about the candidates and they dont know about the candidates because the elections not

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

2011-03-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 March 2011 15:26, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: I could not disagree more. Can you elaborate? There isn't much point saying you disagree if you don't say what you think the truth actually

Re: [Foundation-l] wiki for interwiki (was: Foundation too passive)

2011-03-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, One technical resource lacking is time. The 1.17 code is not stable enough for a full release. There is a lot of code that wants to go into 1.18 and until new releases are going to appear regularly a lot of stuff will continue to wait for it to happen. At this moment the feet of the

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

2011-03-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Then it is both off topic and balderdash. Thanks, GerardM On 21 March 2011 20:42, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 March 2011 19:27, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The statements I reply to are balderdash. The board is relevant

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects

2011-03-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The eo.ws is in the process of being created and sadly things do not progress as hoped for. In the mean time a bug for the creation of the Greek Wikinews has been added and we are in the process of approval for a new Wikipedia. As to Wikisource being a good start for a small language. I do

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: Input needed

2011-03-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, How about the 622 people registered as MediaWiki localisers. They make the experience of the different language versions as good as it is. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_translators On 20 March 2011 17:32, Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 elections - low turnout

2011-03-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you look at the people who put themselves forward and stood in the elections for the board of the Wikimedia Foundation in the past, those that were chosen had a great resume of activities and known points of view before they stood. Many of these people are known, well known, As our

Re: [Foundation-l] Global banners usage

2011-03-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The lack of options to vote for makes it a biased attempt at strong arming into a specific directions. In my opinion as it is flawed it is hardly relevant. Thanks, GerardM On 14 March 2011 07:21, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Liam Wyatt wrote: I presume you are raising this

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Who is going to reach out and ask for some photos that are giving to us under a free license. Moaning does not help. Thanks, GerardM On 13 March 2011 18:23, Hans A. Rosbach hans.a.rosb...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 March 2011 15:30, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 13

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:26:04 +0100, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Who is going to reach out and ask for some photos that are giving to us under a free license. Moaning does not help. Thanks, GerardM I think

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Amir wrote a text that I posted on my blog. He wants proper tooling on Meta to do the translation of the survey. Personally I will not translate at Meta because I find it horribly inefficient. My question to Mani is, can you PLEASE take up the suggestion of using the existing and available

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So far the balance has been seriously wrong. Because of the underinvestment many of our Wikipedias are not doing as well as they should. There are for instance technical solutions to give many of the Indian language Wikipedias the traffic back they lost. As this is not considered as a

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As far as I am concerned, there are so many things we could do if we had the capacity that would still only be about enabling our communities to write their Wikipedia in their language. There are development projects that will not benefit all our projects. We are still at a stage where there

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

2011-03-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The notion that everyone working on Wikipedia and MediaWiki is a volunteer is a fallacy. The one thing I have been advocating is that the different languages and scripts are performing technically on a level playing field. This is not the case and there is a lot that can be achieved with

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

2011-03-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
2011 21:48, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: The notion that everyone working on Wikipedia and MediaWiki is a volunteer is a fallacy. The one thing I have been advocating is that the different languages and scripts are performing technically on a level playing field

Re: [Foundation-l] innovation campaigns

2011-02-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Innovation happens often under the radar screen. At translatewiki.net we frequently have people request features that are necessary to properly express the user interface in their language. This steady trickle make MediaWiki one of the best applications when it comes to Internationalisation,

[Foundation-l] The Narayam extension

2011-02-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really happy to announce that the Narayam extension is installed and running at translatewiki.net. Currently it provides input methods for the Malayalam and Bangla languages. It has been enabled so that Narayam can be tested both for its functionality and for these input methods. We

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If a copyright holder makes something available under a particular license, it is made available in a particular way. Yes you can for instance print or do whatever with what is provided, but you cannot claim the same right on the same object in a higher resolution. A license is given for

Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
guess my email is only leading to different side tracks. Best regards, Lodewijk 2011/2/23 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi, If a copyright holder makes something available under a particular license, it is made available in a particular way. Yes you can for instance print

Re: [Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

2011-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You are correct :) Thanks, GerardM On 24 February 2011 00:50, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 06:55, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com wrote: One thought occurred to me:

Re: [Foundation-l] Do we even know if there is a Gender Gap

2011-02-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are no benefits to indicate gender for the English language at the moment. There is for Russian and the consequence is obvious. There is no reason to believe that there is any other reason for there being more women in the ru.wp then there being a benefit. Thanks, GerardM On 21

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
doesn't fulfill the condition, they had to use another wiki engine I am afraid. Greetings Ting On 16.02.2011 19:49, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Given that Unites States government agencies do use MediaWiki, it is quite a relevant question. Given that we provide such an important

[Foundation-l] An agenda for the meeting of the language committee

2011-02-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In Berlin, in parallel to the MediaWiki http://mediawiki.org/ hackathon, members of the language committeehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committeeof the Wikimedia Foundation http://wikimediafoundation.org/ will meet for a first time in real life. As I read the roster of the people

Re: [Foundation-l] Criticism of employees (was VPAT)

2011-02-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Communication is why I am absolutely happy when I find someone from the staff doing his or her thing on meta or foundation-l. When you compare that to the separation between the professionals and the community that is the result of the many private ways of communicating. Why for instance is

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What IS a VPAT for 508 in the first place ? Thanks, Gerard On 16 February 2011 18:16, McGuire, Jill jill.mcgu...@opm.gov wrote: Does Wikimedia have a VPAT for 508 compliance? Thanks, Jill McGuire USOPM/HRS/LTMS/HRMS/TOOLSTECH/QA - Macon, GA | 478.744.2374 |

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
aims well when we achieve highly in this respect. Thanks, GerardM On 16 February 2011 19:43, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What IS a VPAT for 508 in the first place ? Thanks, Gerard See

Re: [Foundation-l] VPAT

2011-02-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Eh? When Wikipedia is to comply with this, technically it will be in MediaWiki where such compliance is realised. Also MediaWiki is a Wikimedia Foundation project in its own right. Many people who read this list, including me, find this a subject that is absolutely on topic. Even stronger, I

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiRoll

2011-02-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Would it be possible to add other Wikipedia languages... I would not only welcome Dutch :) Thanks, GerardM On 15 February 2011 14:15, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: This is really interesting. Do tyou think is it possible to have similar stats also for sister projects

[Foundation-l] Hindi has three genders that I know of

2011-02-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, So far I knew that the Slavic languages need support to properly address women. I just learned that the Indic languages also differentiate between a male and a female user (inlike English). To top it off, Hindi has a form for inanimate objects. I do not think that we need to go as far and

Re: [Foundation-l] Survey Wikipedia

2011-02-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Could you share with us what university or school you are studying ? Thanks, GerardM On 13 February 2011 16:44, Jeroen Kleijn jeroenkl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, You are being invited to complete an online questionnaire concerning your attitudes and ideology related to Wikipedia.

[Foundation-l] Showing the difference between the sexes

2011-02-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In English the word User does not indicate if it is male or female, The word Gebruiker or Benutzer do; the female form is Gebruikster or Benutzerin. It is with pleasure that I learned that Nikerabbit has written the code that allows for those languages where there is both a male and a female

Re: [Foundation-l] Shorter Url for non-latin languages

2011-02-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Even better then URL shorteners is the presentation of the URL in Unicode. This will make the URL readable, memorable and guessable. It may be that this has everything to do with the browser that is used.. It is certainly a good reason to select one browser over an other.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8]

2011-02-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What would more notice achieve ? The process of installing release 1.17 is important. It did not succeed for now but I hope it will be tried again when feasible. There are improvements in 1.17 where people have been waiting for for a long time. Thanks, GerardM On 8 February 2011

[Foundation-l] The Ada initiative

2011-02-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Ada initiative is something you may want to learn about ... PS you know what Ada they are referring to I am sure ... Thanks, GerardM http://adainitiative.org/http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3923936_1/Ada-Initiative-Supports-Women-in-Open-Source-Counters-

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The milk has spilled so it is time to mop up. As we gain more experience, we learn that having new wikis is often a bad idea in the long run. We live we learn.. Thanks, GerardM On 31 January 2011 14:25, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 January 2011 20:33, phoebe

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