2011/3/16 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org:
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com:
I'd be willing to help organize the names. It's just a question of
coming up with some sensible criteria, so I'll restart the discussion
about that on the previous talk page.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 18:10, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
I object to the GA/FA/etc requirement. There are a lot of content
editors out there who won't go near the FA mafia.
I use that term carefully, and hopefully without inciting a great
backlash. The people involved
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 20:15, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com:
I'd be willing to help organize the names. It's just a question of
coming up with some sensible criteria, so I'll restart the discussion
about that on the previous talk page.
I object to the GA/FA/etc requirement. There are a lot of content
editors out there who won't go near the FA mafia.
I use that term carefully, and hopefully without inciting a great
backlash. The people involved in the GA/FA etc process are welcome as
far as I am concerned to keep doing
2011/3/15 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com
I've been involved with open
access journals as a professional
activity from the start of the movement, long before I
joined Wikipedia. There has been only limited success.
Though there are almost ten thousand open access journals, 95% of them
Though there are almost ten thousand open access journals, 95% of
them
are
either very small or very unimportant, and in almost all fields
of study, none or almost none of the important journals are open
access:
This is my experience too; thanks for pointing it out.
I also think
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 06:32, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Could someone from the Foundation please respond to the idea of contacting
universities and content database providers and inviting them to support
Wikipedia by making a certain number of log-in IDs available, with the
In connection with the Credo subscriptions Erik Möller
Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation created the mailing list
Wikimediareference-l list run by erik at wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediareference-l
It has a little bit of discussion from March to July,
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 06:32, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Could someone from the Foundation please respond to the idea of
contacting universities and content database providers and inviting them to
support Wikipedia by making a certain number of log-in IDs available, with
the
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 06:32, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Could someone from the Foundation please respond to the idea of
contacting universities and content database providers and inviting them to
support Wikipedia by making a certain number of log-in IDs available, with
the
Universities can't do this, generally. All contracts I have ever seen
limit the off-campus access to people connected with the university. A
few publishers even limit the on-campus access similarly, but most
publishers explicitly permit it.
But many universities do even worse than the contracts
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com:
Speaking of the CREDO accounts, several people have asked that their
accounts be reassigned, but they don't know how to do it. Could Erik
advise? See here --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Credo_accounts#I_gave_up_my_account_in_June
As
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 15:13, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
= Credo has generously offered a large number of additional accounts (up
to 400 additional ones). The process that I used for the first batch
was pretty clunky and time-consuming, so I've been using this as an
opportunity to
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com:
Speaking of the CREDO accounts, several people have asked that their
accounts be reassigned, but they don't know how to do it. Could Erik
advise? See here --
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:18 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com:
Speaking of the CREDO accounts, several people have asked that their
accounts be reassigned, but they
As I stated on the talk page - I agree with the idea of some standard
for reference-useful content contribution, and that FA/GA work would
be one aspect of that. But I'd like that to be a category with one
option of satisfying it being GA/FA work, rather than that being the
only way to fulfil it.
I can't speak for all my colleagues in the oa movement, as they
disagree on almost every possible detail, and on almost every
consideration of strategy, but I think most people there would regard
taxpayer access both as a useful political slogan, and as a very
productive strategy—a manner of
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com:
I'd be willing to help organize the names. It's just a question of
coming up with some sensible criteria, so I'll restart the discussion
about that on the previous talk page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Credo_accounts
Thanks Sarah. It
I agree with Aubrey, Melissa, SJ etc.
We should indeed promote OA journals and thesis (give a look at
http://www.dart-europe.eu : almost 200.000 full text OA from 324
universities and 19 countries automatically collected and searchable
thanks to the magics of OA and OAI-PMH), and encourage OA
I've been involved with open access journals as a professional
activity from the start of the movement, long before I joined
Wikipedia. There has been only limited success. Though there are
almost ten thousand open access journals, 95% of them are either very
small or very unimportant, and in
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Stephanie Daugherty
sdaughe...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Of course we would expect that providers and universities will only be
able
to provide a limited number of users with access. But access
By the way, I did check with one of the schools I attended, Sturm College
of Law, and found their access policy for alumni is quite liberal. I'm
too far away to check books out, but it looks like I can do quite a lot
on-line; probably quite a bit more than I have to time to use.
Their policy is
Hi!
I agree with Melissa in promoting the use of open access journals. Plus,
there is also the possibility to create solidarity for access between
academics. In the sense that, if my University does not have access to a
paper I need to complete an article, but another academic in Boston does, to
On 8 March 2011 21:50, Melissa Hagemann mhagem...@sorosny.org wrote:
It would be wonderful if we could find a way for the WMF and OA
communities to more closely collaborate. Aubrey is right in that to a
large extent, OA is not well known outside the library community.
Big time. They're a
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
And if there is interest in advocating on this issue, SPARC
developed
the Alliance for Taxpayer Access
(http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/index.shtml) which represents
universities, libraries, patient advocacy groups, and
I posted the two links in the pub of the dutch wiki, and 2 reactions are
worth mentioning.
One volunteer offered to look up scientific articles, as a student he has
free access to many science publishers through his university library. I had
more such offers in the past, and it may be worth to
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Of course we would expect that providers and universities will only be able
to provide a limited number of users with access. But access rights could be
awarded on the basis of merit, say, to users who have written at least
Probably the biggest victory to date for the OA movement was a mandate
adopted by the U.S. NIH which stipulates that all the research funded by
the NIH (which amounts to approximately $29 billion annually) is now
made freely available through PubMed Central
(http://publicaccess.nih.gov/).
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Of course we would expect that providers and universities will only be
able
to provide a limited number of users with access. But access rights
could be
awarded on the basis of merit, say, to users who have written at
--- On Wed, 9/3/11, Stephanie Daugherty sdaughe...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Stephanie Daugherty sdaughe...@gmail.com
I object to this strongly. The FA, and DYK processes are
absolutely
useless as a measure of an editor's worth to the project.
There's
plenty of wikignomes and other mostly
Am 08.03.11 22:14, schrieb Stephanie Daugherty:
As far as academic journals go most people have some access and don't know
it. Most public libraries subscribe to one or more services, and a library
card is all they need for that access.
Any wmf sponsored access plan needs to keep this in
--- On Tue, Mar 8, 2011, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
From: Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net
I guess I would like editors to have access to archives and
databases
such as
Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we
cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason.
Approaching the problem from both sides seems useful, however,
especially for historical reference works like Wikipedia and
Wikibooks. We absolutely do want
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To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein:
Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we
cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason.
Which is certainly a rather bad idea because what always counts first
must be the quality of content, not the
In general, access to academic journals is extremely expensive and
usually only possible for those affiliated with universities.
Melissa
ProQuest can be purchased by corporations. The Wikimedia Foundation is a
corporation. Typically a University will give their students access. We
could give
2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de:
Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein:
Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we
cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason.
Which is certainly a rather bad idea because what always counts
2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de
Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein:
Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we
cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason.
Which is certainly a rather bad idea because what always counts
2011/3/8 Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com
2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de:
Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein:
Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we
cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason.
Which is
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de:
Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein:
Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we
cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this
Am 08.03.11 21:32, schrieb Andrea Zanni:
BTW, do we (Wikimedia communtiy) have good and enstablished contacts with
the open access community?
AFAIK, not on an official level. However, many wikipedians who are
scientists will certainly prefer to publish open access, and those who
are
Am 08.03.11 21:36, schrieb Andrea Zanni:
AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of
scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet
they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the potential users are hundred
thousands, if not millions).
That's
AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of
scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet
they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the potential users are
hundred
thousands, if not millions).
Limited to editors with 20,000 edits or more?
You
We certainly have many individual contacts with the OA community,
including Melissa Hagemann, who is on our advisory board :) This is
also an area of professional work for me. What kinds of lobbying did
you have in mind?
I was just waiting the librarians to weigh in :-)
I'm really not sure
As far as academic journals go most people have some access and don't know
it. Most public libraries subscribe to one or more services, and a library
card is all they need for that access.
Any wmf sponsored access plan needs to keep this in mind and encourage
editors to use access they already
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote:
We certainly have many individual contacts with the OA community,
including Melissa Hagemann, who is on our advisory board :) This is
also an area of professional work for me. What kinds of lobbying did
you have in
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of
scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet
they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the potential users are
hundred
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 21:50, Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de wrote:
Am 08.03.11 21:36, schrieb Andrea Zanni:
AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of
scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet
they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:32 PM, THURNER rupert
rupert.thur...@wikimedia.ch wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 21:50, Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de wrote:
Am 08.03.11 21:36, schrieb Andrea Zanni:
AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of
scholars/researchers/students of a
On Mar 8, 2011, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote:
We certainly have many individual contacts with the OA community,
including Melissa Hagemann, who is on our advisory board :) This is
also an area of professional work for me. What kinds of lobbying did
you have in mind?
I
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Melissa Hagemann mhagem...@sorosny.org wrote:
..
It would be wonderful if we could find a way for the WMF and OA
communities to more closely collaborate. Aubrey is right in that to a
large extent, OA is not well known outside the library community. Given
the
--- On Tue, 8/3/11, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com
We should have no illusion that the WMF or open content
movement will
zero out the production of copyrighted and
not-freely-licensed content
- most authors of books, most movie
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