Thank you, Ryan.
I did a quick check. The count for that Template:PD-Layout is indeed some
3.3 million.
I went to commons, and looked up the Template:PD-Layout. I think the correct
link is: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-Layout.
Then I looked up the lionk: What links here. The
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, teun spaans teun.spa...@gmail.com wrote:
None of these 5 seem to qualify as fitting into the gap of death of the
author between 50 and 70 years ago, though for File:Alicebeggar.png and
File:AliceSilvy.png: this is not 100% sure - if the artist was 20 years
I imagine that having non-US GLAMs undersand that the foundation wants
to be able to ignore what they regard as their more legitimate
copyright claims will be really helpful.
It's not about ignoring legitimate copyright claims-- we can always
decide for ourselves what is a legitimate
Such works belong to our global knowledge.
You can't copyright knowledge. The usual term used there is culture.
Clearly, you can copyright knowledge, for a time. True, you can't
copyright facts or scientific laws (yet)-- but some forms of knowledge
absolutely get copyrighted, and they're
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 08:47, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote:
Such works belong to our global knowledge.
You can't copyright knowledge. The usual term used there is culture.
Clearly, you can copyright knowledge, for a time. True, you can't
copyright facts or scientific laws (yet)--
On 23 June 2011 07:54, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not about ignoring legitimate copyright claims-- we can always
decide for ourselves what is a legitimate copyright claim for
WMF-hosted projects.
Except the WMF just signed up in support of the EMF side which means
it's now
On 23 June 2011 15:39, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
Arcane legal arguments about what the law is falls outside the
foundation's remit. We are not a lawyers benefit foundation. No the
foundation has taken a very practical real world campaigning position
which probably sounds great to a
On 23 June 2011 16:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
At this point you are just being contrary for the sake of a row.
Citation needed. That in any case is not a valid counterpoint.
If you think the foundation's involvement will have no wider impact
feel free to make that case.
--
On 6/22/11 7:13 PM, geni wrote:
Ohh bad example. You haven't consulted commons policy have you? We
don't carry stuff on commons unless it is PD in the US and it's
country of origin.
I think you're missing the point here. This court decision isn't about
allowing us to ignore other country's
On 23 June 2011 16:17, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
If you think the foundation's involvement will have no wider impact
feel free to make that case.
Considering that that's precisely the point - that if the US starts
re-enclosing the public domain, it will use its influence to get other
On 23 June 2011 19:38, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Considering that that's precisely the point - that if the US starts
re-enclosing the public domain, it will use its influence to get other
countries to do the same - and I expressly said so upthread, well, no,
I'm not going to argue
Europe is already in line. Where the U.S. is exercising its muscle on IP
issues is mainly Latin America (where many countries like Brazil,
Belize, and Jamaica still have reasonable IP laws). The U.S. commonly
pressures Latin American countries on IP issues when negotiating trade
agreements.
The number of 3 million surpises me. Common hosts about 10 million items.
Are you certain this amount is approximately correct?
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus
(friends of the
It's based on the template transclusion count here:
http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=commonsname=Template%3APD-Layout#bottom
Ryan Kaldari
On 6/23/11 1:01 PM, teun spaans wrote:
The number of 3 million surpises me. Common hosts about 10 million items.
Are you certain
I would like to personally thank the WMF staff and board for having
pursued this.
Good luck.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus
(friends of the court) brief in Golan v. Holder, a
Hello Geoff,
great work you are doing here.
Greetings
Ting
On 22.06.2011 20:40, wrote Geoff Brigham:
Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus
(friends of the court) brief in Golan v. Holder, a case of great
importance before the Supreme Court that will affect our
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yesterday, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed an amicus
(friends of the court) brief in Golan v. Holder, a case of great
importance before the Supreme Court that will affect our understanding of
the public
On 22 June 2011 20:15, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to personally thank the WMF staff and board for having
pursued this.
Seconded. This is something important enough we need to stand up about it.
Is there anything we can do, in practical terms, to support this?
I'm very pleased with this amicus brief, specially because it joins both an
organization that I spent my free time getting fun (Wikimedia) and a
organization that represents my professional categorie (American Association
of Libraries, despite the fact that I'm not a US citizen).
Congratulations
Thank you for sharing! This potentially has a big impact indeed, and the
support of the WMF seems more than appropriate.
Is this something the WMF will do more often in the future (or has done in
the past) or is this an extreme exception due to its importance?
With kind regards,
Lodewijk
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 15:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there anything we can do, in practical terms, to support this?
IANAL, but I think the most practical support any of us could do would be
donations to the EFF (who'll actually argue the case for our side) or
sympathetic
On 22 June 2011 21:14, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Is this something the WMF will do more often in the future (or has done in
the past) or is this an extreme exception due to its importance?
I was talkiing to someone today, describing WMF as an 800lb gorilla
that tries very
Kat Walsh writes:
I'm really happy to see us start getting involved in this kind of
work; I think it too is part of fulfilling our mission. Thanks for
your work on this, Geoff.
Chiming in here -- I'm very happy to see Geoff's announcement too. As Geoff
and a few others here know, I've favored
I'm so overjoyed to see we've taken this step! Good work Board,
Staff, Counsel, and everyone else!!!
It always seemed our obvious destiny to lend a helping hand to
important issues like this, I'm really really happy that this day has
arrived.
Is there anything we can do, in practical terms, to
On 22 June 2011 18:24, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote:
I tend to think any time we can be seen standing next to the the
Librarians, we come off looking good. The most we can associate those
two-- ALA, WMF; ALA, WMF; The more we do that, the more outsiders
will get us as a
On 22 June 2011 19:40, Geoff Brigham gbrig...@wikimedia.org wrote:
The Wikimedia Foundation joined the EFF brief in light of the tremendously
important role that the public domain plays in our mission to collect and
develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain,
and
On 23 June 2011 03:09, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm particularly pleased about that part too, Alec, for exactly the
reason you give. They're our natural allies, and having that be
publicly visible helps people understand us better :-)
I imagine that having non-US GLAMs
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