Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
Lars Aronsson wrote: Finn Rindahl wrote If there was more active admins, we could have done our job better - especially when it comes to take the necessary time to communicate with the other users who need help. The only way as I see it to actually get volunteers to work at Commons is to

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-13 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Lars Aronsson wrote: Finn Rindahl wrote If there was more active admins, we could have done our job better - especially when it comes to take the necessary time to communicate with the other users who need help. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you indicate that the relation between Commons and en.wp is clunky, you will acknowledge that the policies re images of the English Wikipedia are rather different. This prevents a common understanding about procedures and policies. So I will grant you that it is not only language that

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-08 Thread teun spaans
Cite: iAdding to this, a culture of deletionism and arrogance has infested Wikimedia Commons in the last year or two. /i I think on the whole i can agree with this. And it is not limited to copyright violations. Commons has turned celf-centered more and more over the past years. Out of disgust

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Lars Aronsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But as soon as it comes to image uploading, an area where the elderly have decades of photos to contribute, we're sending our beginners off to Wikimedia Commons. Even if the menues and most templates are localized in

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening Geoffrey Plourde wrote: That might be a hell of a incentive to change. Before we talk about getting out the torches, I think we should see if we can make Commons functional. The incentive of being shuttered makes it more relevant to those who

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/6 Bryan Tong Minh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can think of two solutions here. One is to simply have more multi-project admins. Wikimedia ought to be one big community with a commons goal. Unfortunately (but not unsurprisingly) Wikimedia has been separated into many different islands

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Finn Rindahl
I guess I'm one of the Commons admins actively working against being [just] a service project for the various other wikimedia projects. I don't want it to be regarded as a completely independent project though. There's two reasons why I do that. 1. Wikimedia Commons serves a purpose on it's own,

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons less frightening

2008-12-06 Thread Lars Aronsson
Finn Rindahl wrote: I guess I'm one of the Commons admins actively working against being [just] a service project for the various other wikimedia projects. This was David Gerard's wording and not mine. Overly general and harsh descriptions are not productive. If there was more active