Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-10 Thread Pharos
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: geni geniice at gmail.com wrote: I assume you are pointing to the Downpreffed VLC because it crashes my browser all the damn time -- TS comment. Still another problem with recommending an option is well when this

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-10 Thread Peter Coombe
2009/7/10 geni geni...@gmail.com 2009/7/10 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/9 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/9 geni geni...@gmail.com: Mention VLC plugin perhaps? Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Does this mean that you would advise against Ubuntu for their use of iceweasel and their inability to provide the 3.5 release in a timely fashion ? Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/9 Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org There has been a technical discussion on wikitech-l regarding the

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-10 Thread Mike.lifeguard
This is totally off-topic and also a low blow. Please join #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net and ask about FF3.5 (or search google; no shortage of information) - I think you'll find the answers more satisfying than this email misleadingly suggests. -Mike On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 17:53 +0200, Gerard

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/10 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Does this mean that you would advise against Ubuntu for their use of iceweasel and their inability to provide the 3.5 release in a timely fashion ? That question really doesn't make any sense in context. Why would we advise *against* an

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-10 Thread geni
2009/7/10 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/10 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Does this mean that you would advise against Ubuntu for their use of iceweasel and their inability to provide the 3.5 release in a timely fashion ? That question really doesn't make any sense in

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-10 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/11 geni geni...@gmail.com: Ubuntu is as much a software package including an OS as a pure OS. It can be considered amusing  that the bundling that got Microsoft into trouble has become standard practice for pretty much any general user orientated OS these days. This is a

[Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread Michael Dale
There has been a technical discussion on wikitech-l regarding the recommendation of a browser for the high quality open video experience. Some native implementations are ~presently~ non optimal and the java cortado applet we use where no native support is available is a poor user experience

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/9 Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org: * Google Chromium -- supports h.264 and ogg theora video natively. Again ogg performance is not very high quality. It uses the ffmpeg library which features a non-optimal theora decoder. Things like seeking presently don't work very reliably. Does

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread geni
2009/7/9 Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org: There has been a technical discussion on wikitech-l regarding the recommendation of a browser for the high quality open video experience. Some native implementations are ~presently~ non optimal and the java cortado applet we use where no native

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread geni
2009/7/9 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/9 geni geni...@gmail.com: Promoting any one browser for any reason is kinda dicey. Given how contentious browser wars are it wouldn't look to good from the POV of remaining neutral. Has anyone managed to work the firefox code into Konqueror

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/9 geni geni...@gmail.com: Mention VLC plugin perhaps? Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongly suggest you read the wikitech-l thread. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/9 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/9 geni geni...@gmail.com: Mention VLC plugin perhaps? Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongly

Re: [Foundation-l] Recommending a Browser for High Quality Ogg Theora Video Support

2009-07-09 Thread geni
2009/7/10 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/9 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/7/9 geni geni...@gmail.com: Mention VLC plugin perhaps? Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in practice. Your suggestion