On 26 January 2011 23:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 January 2011 22:54, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Jimmy has previously made way too many off-the-cuff remarks that have gotten
him into hot water to repeat that mistake again, surely.
*cough*Sarah Palin*cough*
On 27 January 2011 20:30, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 January 2011 23:41, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 January 2011 22:54, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Jimmy has previously made way too many off-the-cuff remarks that have gotten
him into hot water
On 1/21/11 5:46 PM, David Gerard wrote:
No-one is in fact obliged to respond to you on foundation-l, indeed
many WMF employees and WMF and chapter volunteers don't read it,
referring instead to it as troll-l. It would be nice if this weren't
the case.
I know a good way to help achieve that.
On 26 January 2011 07:24, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote:
On 1/21/11 5:46 PM, David Gerard wrote:
No-one is in fact obliged to respond to you on foundation-l, indeed
many WMF employees and WMF and chapter volunteers don't read it,
referring instead to it as troll-l. It would be nice
David Gerard wrote:
On 26 January 2011 07:24, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote:
On 1/21/11 5:46 PM, David Gerard wrote:
No-one is in fact obliged to respond to you on foundation-l, indeed
many WMF employees and WMF and chapter volunteers don't read it,
referring instead to it as
On 26 January 2011 22:54, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Jimmy has previously made way too many off-the-cuff remarks that have gotten
him into hot water to repeat that mistake again, surely.
*cough*Sarah Palin*cough*
- d.
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foundation-l
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:10 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
As an active wikimedian from India, I am just sharing my personal take on
the whole thing
Firstly, my apologize for my late response to this thread, due to my other
pre-occupations. I needed to catch up
tinucher...@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Fri, Jan 21, 2011 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow
Come on friend, History of India and many other civilizations of world
started thousands of years even before
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
You are mistaking the problem.
It's not that a piece of knowledge is not googleable.
It's that a piece of knowledge is not published whatsoever.
Never published. Anywhere. At any time. Ever.
That's quite a different
Hi all,
As an active wikimedian from India, I am just sharing my personal take on
the whole thing
1) Achal as Fellow : Some of the folks commented that it was inappropriate
for Achal Prabhala selected for this position, also being a member of the
Foundation Advisory Board. I think it is the
On 22 January 2011 04:17, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
Come on friend, History of India and many other civilizations of world
started thousands of years even before that. As somebody already said
earlier, It is not something that everyone can easily comprehend..
Every
On 21/01/2011 03:36, whothis wrote:
Thanks for introducing yourself Achal after so many years on the Advisory
Board. Dare I suggest, you add part of that introduction to your Advisory
Board page on one of the wikis. About the 5 year plan, dare I suggest you
get around to reading that one of
On 21 January 2011 06:36, whothis whoth...@gmail.com wrote:
You can't be on an advisory board and tell a non-profit organization
what to do as a pro-bono advisor to the board and then get paid by the said
foundation as a fellow a few years into your tenure, serving both positions
at the same
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
On 21 January 2011 06:36, whothis whoth...@gmail.com wrote:
You can't be on an advisory board and tell a non-profit organization
what to do as a pro-bono advisor to the board and then get paid by the
said
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 21 January 2011 07:26 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
Achal Prabhala wrote:
Greetings,
I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this
short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as
Achal Prabhala wrote:
In all these capacities and more.
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That's the spirit. And I've always felt that a waste is a terrible thing
to mind.
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[links shortened]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=2284834#India_planning
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Achal Prabhala wrote:
In all these capacities and more.
33
That's the spirit. And I've always felt that a waste is a terrible thing
to mind.
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[links shortened]
On 21 January 2011 17:36, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Your commitment to openness and transparency is ready to be transferred to a
Twitter account. You'll have to work with Erik to make all of his openness
and transparency fit. (In all seriousness, thank you, Erik, for the
reports.)
I was going to drop this and fade away until your patronizing comments.
First, I am not a gentleman, I would be a lady, according to the
pseudo-chivalrous, patronizing tone you used in your last response.
//That's the spirit. And I've always felt that a waste is a terrible thing to
mind.
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, MZMcBridez...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Hi.
As Daniel noted in his earlier e-mail to the list, Achal Prabhala is now a
Wikimedia Fellow.[1] I actually missed this announcement as it didn't hit
wikimediaannounce-l or this list (foundation-l), it apparently
Nathan, I understand you don't know me, but can''t you see he is exactly the
same as me, an anonymous and uncounted associate, who is as much a
shareholder, auditor as I am. The only difference is I don't lead the
Movement, I supposedly am lead by anonymous unknowns like him.
E.
On Fri, Jan 21,
David Gerard wrote:
You started in attack mode and continued in attack mode. This is not a
good way to get anyone to bother talking to you.
I made an effort to not start in attack mode, as it were. I asked questions
and hoped that out of all the noise that would come in the replies, there
might
Nathan wrote:
Honestly, I don't see how you could expect a better set of answers
given your approach. You're not a prosecutor, and you have no right to
interrogate him about whatever improprieties you and your supposedly
like-minded (but anonymous and uncounted) associates perceive. You're
2011/1/20 whothis whoth...@gmail.com:
I hope others reading this realize the implication of your appointment. I
had no idea who you were before this, and still don't
I had no idea who you were before this. Then I checked my mail
archives and saw that the only other thread you've been engaged in
Birgitte SB wrote:
This isn't the first time someone who perceived your tone negatively has
written about it seeking a remedy. Perhaps the fault is not with David's nor
Nathan's perception skills.
Perhaps you might find more success if you change your approach in the
following ways.
1)
On 21 January 2011 21:11, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
To try to answer your concern, somewhat, as I understand it, rather
than just tut at your tone (which is of course an annoying thing to
do):
The Advisory Board is basically specialist volunteers who’ve signed up
to be bothered about
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2011/1/20 whothis whoth...@gmail.com:
I hope others reading this realize the implication of your appointment. I
had no idea who you were before this, and still don't
I had no idea who you were before this. Then I
A few things to add to this thread:
1. Achal has been a very helpful advisor (among several) to me as I've
launched WMF's work in India. In addition, he has been helpful in the
formation of the chapter in India, the chapter formation process in South
Africa and has shared some perspectives with
On 21 January 2011 05:59, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:
Knowledge in olden times of India are transferred orally from Gurus (
Teachers) to students/disciples . They are not necessarily recorded. We are
talking about the ages even before manuscripts paper are invented.
Come on friend, History of India and many other civilizations of world
started thousands of years even before that. As somebody already said
earlier, It is not something that everyone can easily comprehend..
Every knowledge is NOT on the internet and Google searchable :)
Sorry, No pun intended.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:21 PM, whothis whoth...@gmail.com wrote:
I assume you probably
had some say in selecting the current Board Member from India since you
announced his appointment
Even though this is tangential to the main discussion, let me explain the
process through which I was
I agree with what he said.
After looking him up, the only qualification I can find of this person is
that he's on the advisory board, No idea, how he got there and for how long
is his term, makes me think that maybe there is a Cabal. Most places
mirror his description on the Advisory Board page.
Thanks Achal :-)
In addition to what Achal said, it's important to note that this
fellowship was processed as a grant, and is transparently documented
at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_Fellowships/Oral_Citations
consistent with the principles of the grantmaking process. It's a
On 20 January 2011 11:00, Achal Prabhala aprabh...@gmail.com wrote:
Now to the project. I see that neither of you gentlemen has any thoughts
on it, and I welcome your engagement. The problem with oral knowledge
vs. published knowledge is an old one, and there are many interesting
ways in
Achal Prabhala wrote:
Greetings,
I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this
short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as happy to assume
that you fully intended for your messages to come across as decorous and
rational.
Hi. I appreciate you taking the
In a message dated 1/20/2011 11:37:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
dger...@gmail.com writes:
There's a lot of knowledge in fields which
everyone assumes, and which are transmitted academically, but not in a
format that teenage en:wp admins can grasp in five seconds.
Knowledge transmitted
Knowledge in olden times of India are transferred orally from Gurus (
Teachers) to students/disciples . They are not necessarily recorded. We are
talking about the ages even before manuscripts paper are invented.
Regards
Tinu Cherian
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:53 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In
On Friday 21 January 2011 07:26 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
Achal Prabhala wrote:
Greetings,
I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this
short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as happy to assume
that you fully intended for your messages to come across as
Thanks for introducing yourself Achal after so many years on the Advisory
Board. Dare I suggest, you add part of that introduction to your Advisory
Board page on one of the wikis. About the 5 year plan, dare I suggest you
get around to reading that one of these days, you're on the Advisory Board
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