Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In reply to theo10011, I am happy to inform you that there has been an awesome project where 10 universities in Jakarta competed this year. This competition was wildly successful, the number of editors doubled during the run of the competition. If anything, it is sad that the Indonesian

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
I have to chime in to echo that the size of the USA and the fact that it is populated throughout is an issue for a general USA chapter. I attended a meetup in Nashville, Tennessee, which had people from five states and it was a seven hour drive for me, and I was in a state next to it. Going to

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-23 Thread theo10011
I do agree with some of what Mr. Meijssen said in the last email but not all of it. Yes, there might be a bias with some of the new projects being undertaken in the US specifically, but outside of Europe there are very few chapters who would be in a position to take on university collaborated

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-23 Thread Anna Shyrokova
I can see how people may be concerned that the development of a U.S. chapter may be impeded because the WMF is already involved in projects like the universities project. But, it is important to consider that the WMF is scheduled to finish the project in about a year. What may actually be a

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-23 Thread Steven Walling
When the Wikimedia Foundation runs a project, it should be obvious that such a project can be easily understood from its perspective. For me the WMF is a worldwide organisation and consequently its actions should be acceptable from that perspective. When the WMF runs a pilot project like the

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:32:17 -0700, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: When the Wikimedia Foundation runs a project, it should be obvious that such a project can be easily understood from its perspective. For me the WMF is a worldwide organisation and consequently its actions

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-23 Thread Noein
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I understand correctly the situation, the USA community currently interact with Wikipedia through the Foundation or the en. chapter, which are not necessarily representative of their interests. The point of view that a chapter should represent the

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The reality of chapters in the WMF is that the most obvious chapter does not exist. Not only does it not exist the WMF itself confuses the issue by functionaing in effect as both the worldwide organisation and the USA chapter. The consequence is that it is not possible to appreciate when the

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-22 Thread Steven Walling
Gerard, As a Wikimedia from the United States, I think I can speak to concern about a lack of a U.S. chapter. There are many factors that have thus far held back the formation of a chapter in my country, some of which are unique because of the history of the movement, and some of which we share

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-22 Thread Robert S. Horning
On 08/22/2010 03:51 PM, Steven Walling wrote: Gerard, As a Wikimedia from the United States, I think I can speak to concern about a lack of a U.S. chapter. There are many factors that have thus far held back the formation of a chapter in my country, some of which are unique because of the

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-22 Thread Jon Davis
If I remember my reading from the recent strategy documents, the Foundation wants to create more awareness amongst the less internet prevalent countries. Here in the USA, you could poll several dozen random people on the street, and likely not find a single person that doesn't know about

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Chapter Development Director job posting

2010-08-22 Thread theo10011
Hi everyone I just wanted to step in and remind everyone of the enormity of the task thats lying ahead for the Foundation. As Mr. Davis and Horning have pointed out that US already has a very good representation, its the Headquarter and the base for the foundation. The point of having chapters is