Re: [Foundation-l] Biographies of Living People: a quick interim update

2009-03-09 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, This is just a quick interim update on the BLP issue I raised here last week. First, there seems to be a general view that BLPs are a problem that is worth addressing. I won't recap all the reasons for

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Polska Conference 2009

2009-03-09 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Hi, Wikimedia Polska Conference 2009 s a fourth event organized by the Wikimedia Polska to encourage ideas, exchange of Wikimedia projects users in Poland and people connected with free software, free knowledge and free culture in a information society. We invite everyone interested in all areas

[Foundation-l] New member of the Language Committee

2009-03-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is with pleasure that we announce that we have enlarged the language committee with SPQRobin. Robin is the longest serving administrator on the Incubator and we hope to make the procedure of getting new projects started more obvious and clear. On the incubator many projects start without

Re: [Foundation-l] Biographies of Living People: a quick interim update

2009-03-09 Thread Florence Devouard
Sue Gardner wrote: So .. that is my rough, quick recap of where I think we're at. In terms of next steps – as I said, I'll be speaking about this issue with the board in early April. This is just an interim note: Please feel free to help me further my thinking on all this -particularly #1

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/6 Mike Linksvayer m...@creativecommons.org: Yes. Mike (not the CC counsel but just spoke to her) And what was the exact wording of the question asked and what was the line of reasoning? The question was whether

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Chad
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Mike Linksvayer m...@creativecommons.org wrote: p.s. Personally, discussions of offline here and everywhere (say, accessibility of educational materials) are absurdly myopic. Consideration of offline use is about as relevant now as consideration of horse

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread geni
2009/3/9 Mike Linksvayer m...@creativecommons.org: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/6 Mike Linksvayer m...@creativecommons.org: Yes. Mike (not the CC counsel but just spoke to her) And what was the exact wording of the question asked and what was the

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey and licensing next steps

2009-03-09 Thread geni
2009/3/8 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: 2009/3/7 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu: Ultimately it does not seem reasonable to force the printing of a URL on non-hypertext mediums. I still believe we ought to avoid explicit distinction between media forms because I think these distinctions

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Sage Ross
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Mike Linksvayer m...@creativecommons.org wrote: p.s. Personally, discussions of offline here and everywhere (say, accessibility of educational materials) are absurdly myopic. Consideration

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Mike Linksvayer m...@creativecommons.org wrote: p.s. Personally, discussions of offline here and everywhere

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread geni
2009/3/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: And Kenyans would care about US and European copyright laws? :))) And we would care why they didn't attribute us? In such cases, those who care from both sides are maybe ignorants, maybe idealists, but they are definitely stupid. Kenyan copyright law

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: Should we treat such persons systematically or it is better to add some exceptional rules? Something like to give a mandate to WMF to solve problems

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Brian
horrificly bad question? Surely you can't be serious? This is just sensationalism. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/9 Mike Linksvayer m...@creativecommons.org: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/6 Mike Linksvayer

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread geni
2009/3/9 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu: horrificly bad question? Surely you can't be serious? This is just sensationalism. 1)It isn't actually a question so pretty much by definition a bad question 2)It's a rather vague pseudo question about a legal matter which is always a bad idea which

Re: [Foundation-l] Biographies of Living People: a quick interim update

2009-03-09 Thread Sue Gardner
2009/3/8 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: 1)  There is a big unresolved question around whether, if marginally-notable people ask to have their articles deleted, that request should be granted.  My sense -both from the

Re: [Foundation-l] Creation of Pontic Wikipedia

2009-03-09 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Zaharias Diakonikolaou zadiak1...@gmail.com wrote: The Pontic wikipedia has launched! Everyone is welcome to participate in the project. Also, I would like to thank Brion Vibber because he responded to my mail and arranged the launch of the wikipedia. Why is the

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:07 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: So, they don't care about their own copyright law. Common law is very much driven by legal precedent. Looking to see what similar legal systems have done is a fairly common approach. That

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/3/4 Anthony: What constitutes a significant majority? What if the survey results had said that a significant majority was happy with their work being released into the public domain. Would you then find it reasonable to release *everyone's* work into the public

Re: [Foundation-l] Biographies of Living People: a quick interim update

2009-03-09 Thread phoebe ayers
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote: I am curious to know if there is a wiki page somewhere, summarizing the major points (and differences) between the different languages BLP policies (and actually, if there is or not a BLP policy...). Did someone

Re: [Foundation-l] Biographies of Living People: a quick interim update

2009-03-09 Thread David Goodman
We should take it as seriously as we would any other statement from someone with Conflict of interest--seriously, but with great caution. It does not have the usual presumption of encyclopedic purpose. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2009/3/8 Nathan

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Gerard wrote: Remember that licenses are not merely a game of Nomic, but responses to a given legal threat model. Not necessarily a given legal threat, but an even weaker perceived legal threat. In this case, the threat model is: what if some raving and/or malicious lunatic who has

Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution survey, first results

2009-03-09 Thread Sage Ross
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Sage Ross wrote: This is a typical pattern when a complex technology is introduced in the presence of a simpler one; it's not a simple matter of replacement, and old technologies (where the infrastructure is easy to

[Foundation-l] Heads-up! Reports to the Board

2009-03-09 Thread Sue Gardner
Hi folks, The last Report to the Board that I published here was the October one, published December 13. I owe you November, December, January and February. First, I'd like to sincerely apologize for the delay. There's no justification for it, just a number of factors coincided to make me