Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Michael Peel wrote: On 15 May 2009, at 08:01, Nikola Smolenski wrote: Perhaps this is off-topic, but I wanted to say it for a long time. The more time passes, the more I wonder if people who work on Wikipedia have ever seen an encyclopedia. On Wikipedia, dictionary definitions and image

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Michael Peel
On 15 May 2009, at 08:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote: Michael Peel wrote: On 15 May 2009, at 08:01, Nikola Smolenski wrote: Perhaps this is off-topic, but I wanted to say it for a long time. The more time passes, the more I wonder if people who work on Wikipedia have ever seen an

Re: [Foundation-l] 2007 Form 990 Now Posted

2009-05-15 Thread Florence Devouard
effe iets anders wrote: Hi Veronique, thanks for posting this. In Part VI, question 82b, it is mentioned that 333,125 USD was donated in kind. Can you confirm that this does not include the volunteer contributions to Wikipedia? (assume not, or at least hope that it's not valued that low ;-)

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Brion Vibber wrote: The challenge here isn't technical, but political/cultural; choosing how to mark things and what to mark for a default view is quite simply _difficult_ as there's such a huge variance in what people may find objectionable. ...

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Michael Peel wrote: On 15 May 2009, at 08:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote: Wiktionary has dictionary definitions, but they can't be expanded to cover what encyclopedic aspects of the topic could be covered. Commons has image galleries, but it does not have encyclopedic image galleries. Commons

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu wrote: Michael Peel wrote: On 15 May 2009, at 08:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote: Wiktionary has dictionary definitions, but they can't be expanded to cover what encyclopedic aspects of the topic could be covered. Commons has

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Peter Jacobi
Hi David, All, On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:50 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: The obvious thing to do would be for a third party to offer a filtering service. So far there are no examples, suggesting there is negligible demand for such filtering in practice - many individuals have

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Nikola Smolenski
John Vandenberg wrote: I have once made http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_gallery_of_toucans that was deleted. Let's say it was similar to http://www.emeraldforestbirds.com/EmeraldGallery.htm and I believe you will find such a gallery is encyclopedic. I have checked, and the deleted

[Foundation-l] We're not quite at Google's level

2009-05-15 Thread Thomas Dalton
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8051262.stm Google has an hour of slow service and it's headline news. Imagine the donations we could get if our downtime (which, as David is fond of saying, is our most profitable product) got into the headlines! Perhaps we should take to issuing press

Re: [Foundation-l] We're not quite at Google's level

2009-05-15 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/15 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Google has an hour of slow service and it's headline news. Imagine the donations we could get if our downtime (which, as David is fond of saying, is our most profitable product) got into the headlines! Originally a Jimbo quote :-) - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Birgitte SB
Your really didn't address my question. Why do you think WMF resources are best used to create and support a mirror for people who are disgusted by sexuality rather than making easier for third-parties to create mirrors for *any* of different of audiences in the world that find various

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Ray Saintonge
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Have you any idea how california-centered that sounds? We all stood shoulder to shoulder against Uwe Kils and the Norwegian Vikings, and this is what we get? A more perniciously, smoother talked version of the same old spiel. One would be really excused at this

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Nathan
I'm with Simetrical on this one. One persons censorship is anothers editorial decision, and by and large[1] the actual content on Wikimedia projects is determined by the cultural sensitivities of the Wikimedia community and not the ideals to which we aspire. The arguments we make are by turns

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Kama Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: Your really didn't address my question.  Why do you think WMF resources are best used to create and support a mirror for people who are disgusted by sexuality rather than making easier for third-parties to create

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Kama Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Kama Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I think this email really shows a misunderstanding of Wikipedia is not censored is about; so I am starting a new thread to discuss the issue. Well, for my part, I think the entire Wikipedia is not censored policy

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Kama Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: Well you now snipped it all, but someone suggested creating mirror under a different domain name for schools.  I replied to that saying how I thought resources were best spent.  Then you replied to me. If you weren't

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Brion Vibber
El 5/14/09 4:14 PM, Mike.lifeguard escribió: While this may be true for Wikipedia (English Wikipedia?), it is certainly not true of Wikimedia project generally. For example, Wikibooks has a subproject Wikijunior which is an attempt to create high-quality children's books. Part of the defined

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery To: Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Kama Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not the Kama Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List

Re: [Foundation-l] 2007 Form 990 Now Posted

2009-05-15 Thread effe iets anders
The affiliate question was mainly triggered by page 1, question H (and might be especially interesting in later files of 990 with US chapters on their way who might or might not be affiliates according to the IRS definition). I noted that question H(c) has not been filled in. I assume that this

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Birgitte SB
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: El 5/14/09 3:16 PM, private musings escribió:     - Commons currently hosts many pictures, taken in a public place, without     the apparent permission of the subject...     highly unlikely to me to be genuinely released

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not censored (was Wikipedia is not the Karma Sutra, was Re: commons and freely licensed sexual imagery

2009-05-15 Thread David Goodman
The argument against concealing or making it more difficult in any way to access material is that it inevitably amounts to censorship. In my youth, one could not receive publications--on any subject--through the mail from the Communist countries without signing a form that one had requested them;