On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 04:10, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is fair to say that no language belongs to a country, it
belongs to all speakers... what about the hundreds of thousands of
people who write Moldovan in Cyrillic?
According to Wikipedia (the enciclopaedia libre of
When you say that _is_ the _moldovan_ language... how does Cyrillic
writing make it not Moldovan anymore? Also, there is a very clear
notice at the top directing people to Latin-alphabet content - it's
not as if anybody is actually deprived of being able to read in their
preferred script or is
2 things as well:
If your language is called Romanian, as you contend in the topic
line, why do you care about the Moldovan WP? You can't have your cake
and eat it too.
Also, the name of the holiday is not Our romanian language, it's
just Our Language, there is very specifically no mention of
2) I do not remember the policy to host the same language in different
scripts, but if we support that, we should follow the already applied
naming convention (I tend to remember something similar about serbian
wp?)
In general the policy is that if we can create a converter we should.
In this
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 08:59, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote:
When you say that _is_ the _moldovan_ language... how does Cyrillic
writing make it not Moldovan anymore?
On the contarary: latin script make it not Moldovan language anymore.
It's like saying old english (non latin script)
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 09:08, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote:
If your language is called Romanian,
As a sidenote I observe a strong tension between The Romanian People
and others related to the country but separated from it, or got
involved its history. Often I see violent desire to
You seem to believe that Cyrillic for the language is a purely
historical artefact when in fact it is still used in textbooks for
schoolchildren and learning to read in Transnistria. If Cyrillic
script were no longer in use for Moldovan or used only as a historical
curiosity this would be a dead
Mark,
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:01, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote:
You seem to believe that Cyrillic for the language is a purely
historical artefact when in fact it is still used in textbooks for
schoolchildren and learning to read in Transnistria.
I acknowledge that, but what do
A few points to add and some suggestions:
- You can have a single language written in more than one script; although they
are separate issues, for our purposes, given that we are predominantly written,
we tend to combine both issues and look at language/script combinations.
- There seem to be
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been telling you what I would like you to do. That's quite different.
True, telling me what I need to do is much more useful. But if you care to
continue this let's please take it off list.
I think it has been stated before on this list, that mo.wikipedia.org should
be moved, alongside some other projects waiting to be removed and the staff
developers seemed agreable to this apart from the fact that they didn't
devote time for the necessary background work (moving and recreating
Hoi,
It is equally abundantly clear that the emotions run high whenever this
issue is raised. There is one difference between this closure and all the
others. When this project will be closed, it will not go to the incubator
but will be deleted. This is in marked contrast with all the others.
If
We'll have our weekly office hours today (September 1, 2009) from
20:00-21:00 UTC on #wikimedia-strategy. Details at:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours
I suspect we'll have lots to talk about after a really great Wikimania.
=Eugene
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Being that it was a topic of rousing discussion here last week, Wikimedians
may be interested in a brief summary of the Omidyar/Wikimedia/Wikia
connection, as authored by me and published by the non-profit, Internet
Review Corporation:
http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/
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Hello,
I started a proposal on the Strategy Wiki:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Building_a_database_of_all_books_ever_published
IMO this should be a join project between Openlibrary and Wikimedia.
Both have an interest and a capacity to work on this.
Regards,
Yann
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Hoi,
I started reading and find that I should not have bothered... So if you have
time to waste, by all means read this.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/9/1 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com
Being that it was a topic of rousing discussion here last week, Wikimedians
may be interested in a brief
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi,
I started reading
I'm sorry, did you have something to say that *wasn't* a waste of time? I
did read it, and unlike your e-mail it provides a useful perspective in a
large and complicated issue.
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi,
I started reading
I'm sorry, did you have something to say that *wasn't* a waste of time? I
did read it, and unlike your e-mail it
Once again I have to ask, this time in a different forum... Is there any
procedure to get those vicious personal attacks taken out of the publicly
viewable history?
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Gregory Kohsthekoh...@gmail.com wrote:
Being that it was a topic of rousing discussion here last week, Wikimedians
may be interested in a brief summary of the Omidyar/Wikimedia/Wikia
connection, as authored by me and published by the non-profit, Internet
Review
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Sage Ross
ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.comragesoss%2bwikipe...@gmail.com
wrote:
[Halprin] didn't deny that, in a social rather than
contractual sense, he was considered for a seat on the board because
of the grant negotiations; in fact, he basically said that he
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Anthonywikim...@inbox.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Sage Ross
ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.comragesoss%2bwikipe...@gmail.com
wrote:
[Halprin] didn't deny that, in a social rather than
contractual sense, he was considered for a seat on the board
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Sage Ross
ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.comragesoss%2bwikipe...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Anthonywikim...@inbox.org wrote:
He said that? Where has Halprin or anyone with knowledge of the
appointment
said that Halprin was considered because
Nathan wrote:
I wasn't there, but I'll echo Erik, Ting and Jerry - from everything
I've read, the organizers did a great job and really represented the
Wikimedia community well. Thanks for your hard work and
congratulations on a job well done.
Nathan
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Anthonywikim...@inbox.org wrote:
If Omidyar Networks had not offered a grant, but offered to put Halprin on
the board, would the board have accepted it? I don't see anyone with
knowledge of the situation saying no.
I had the impression that WMF had been
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Anthonywikim...@inbox.org wrote:
Once again I have to ask, this time in a different forum... Is there any
procedure to get those vicious personal attacks taken out of the publicly
viewable history?
I am gobsmacked that you are asking this here and saying that
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:14 PM, John Vandenbergjay...@gmail.com wrote:
I am gobsmacked that you are asking this here and saying that you
haven't received answers when you asked in a different forum (which
forum?).
Removal of vicious personal attacks depends on the nature of them.
If they
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Nathannawr...@gmail.com wrote:
How do those apply to a mailing list?
Eh? Anthony is talking about removing messages from the mailing list archive?
I assumed he meant the Wikipedia diffs that are mentioned in the
article at
I thought the previous consensus was that this project was to be moved
to a different domain - although outright deletion has been suggested
by quite a few people I can't see where that was ever agreed to.
Mark
On 9/1/09, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
It is equally
It's more complex than that I think.
mo was deleted from the list of ISO codes relatively recently; when
the Wiki was created it was a valid ISO code.
Now, ro applies to Romanian, for which Moldovan is supposed to be
an alternative name, however it seems inappropriate (although it may
be
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