Re: [Foundation-l] Note about Huib and LangCom

2011-08-10 Thread Lucas Teles
I'm afraid you didn't get my questions. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I couldn't find an answer on your reply to how can he archive while blocked? and why can't he request a non-blocked member of LangCom to perform desired actions on Meta? Sad to know that nobody else is interested. I see,

Re: [Foundation-l] Note about Huib and LangCom

2011-08-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi. The committee is doing its things. Working on archiving is peripheral to our work and consequently the answer to your question is the committee working has an unreserved YES. Thanks, GerardM 2011/8/10 Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com I'm afraid you didn't get my questions.

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread Rui Correia
Hi Milos I am not quite sure I follow. Those who like would have to go to diffs ? which would leave the button to more engaged editors? I personally find the like button on Facebook the dumbest idea ever - it means you are too stupid or too lazy to think up anything and just go around clicking

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread M. Williamson
Or, Rui, perhaps you have plenty of original thoughts and are a very intelligent person and you post all of your original thoughts, but it seems a bit stupid and like a waste of space to say thank you for saying that or i agree with you every time you agree with someone and have no disagreement

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread Rui Correia
M. Williamson Obviousy I post my thoughts where these make a contribution. It says so below leave a comment or leave it alone. Rui 2011/8/10 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com Or, Rui, perhaps you have plenty of original thoughts and are a very intelligent person and you post all of your

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2011 video on Commons?

2011-08-10 Thread Béria Lima
Not yet. So far you can find some videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaIL But they will be in Commons soon _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread M. Williamson
Rui, I meant the impersonal you, not the direct you. 2011/8/10 Rui Correia correia@gmail.com M. Williamson Obviousy I post my thoughts where these make a contribution. It says so below leave a comment or leave it alone. Rui 2011/8/10 M. Williamson node...@gmail.com Or, Rui,

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2011 video on Commons?

2011-08-10 Thread Waihorace
I am interest in using them on wiki. Thanks.   HW 從︰ Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com 收件人︰ Waihorace waihor...@yahoo.com.hk; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 傳送日期︰ 2011年08月10日 (週三) 5:54 PM 主題︰ Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2011 video on Commons? Not yet. So far

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread MZMcBride
Rui Correia wrote: I personally find the like button on Facebook the dumbest idea ever - it means you are too stupid or too lazy to think up anything and just go around clicking like all over the place. It impoverishes the process, as where there is a like there could have been a enriching

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Hmm, it'd be a neat extension for Commons. I don't think like or +1 should be used, as they're not sufficiently wiki. But something that expresses the same sentiment, that allows users to express approval of good photos (similar to Flickr), could be cool. MZMcBride Is the talk page not

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread Theo10011
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: Hmm, it'd be a neat extension for Commons. I don't think like or +1 should be used, as they're not sufficiently wiki. But something that expresses the same sentiment, that allows users to express approval of good

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread MZMcBride
Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: MZMcBride wrote: Hmm, it'd be a neat extension for Commons. I don't think like or +1 should be used, as they're not sufficiently wiki. But something that expresses the same sentiment, that allows users to express approval of good photos (similar to Flickr), could be

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

2011-08-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:13 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages on http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually found. Mark, Could you please propose a specific solution that would make

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Florence Devouard
On 8/9/11 4:46 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: 2011/8/9 Delphine Ménardnotafi...@gmail.com On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Kirill Lokshinkirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: Well, let's be clear here: in what sense are the chapters participating in the fundraiser, rather than merely being its

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread Orionist
We do have a great substitute for the like button which is barnstars and other awards. These are the ones I see frequently used to show appreciation for specific edits. They could read something on the lines of: Here I award you the Humor Barnstar for your great sense of humor shown in this edit

Re: [Foundation-l] Like button

2011-08-10 Thread Sage Ross
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Orionist orion@gmail.com wrote: We do have a great substitute for the like button which is barnstars and other awards. Maybe a version of WikiLove could be built for Commons that leaves a barnstar or similar for the creator of a file, without leaving the

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Gustavo Carrancio
Just I have to say Amen to you, Anthere. I see your point. In addition, chapters need some time to make his job, that is, to involve relevant people, to create a local structure that engages people to the real benefits for an enterprise, a council, an academic institution with free knowledge.

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/9/11 1:46 PM, David Gerard wrote: (I don't think that is the intent - apparently WMF feels like it can mess people around and still get 100% from them. I do consider that the problems really haven't been considered.) I don't think the WMF thinks that they can mess people around at all,

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/9/11 3:47 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: It seems to me that these changes are about making chapters more into franchises. Which I find to be exactly backwards. It would be, if that's what it were about. But I can say with confidence that at the board meeting, no one spoke about any ideas even

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Jimmy Wales
Redefining the chapters who participated in a joint fundraiser with WMF as WMF's payment processors is straight-up insulting. Whoa, please slow down! No one has said anything like that, and it isn't how the term is being used. A chapter is a payment processor if it... processes payments.

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/9/11 10:27 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: A more typical arrangement would be that the WMF would give a chapter the right to use WMF trademarks, and in return a portion of the funds raised by the chapter would be funneled back to the WMF. But what chapters seem to want is for the WMF to sign

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 8/9/11 10:27 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: A more typical arrangement would be that the WMF would give a chapter the right to use WMF trademarks, and in return a portion of the funds raised by the chapter would be funneled back to the WMF. But what chapters seem to want is for the WMF to sign

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 August 2011 21:30, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: On 8/9/11 1:46 PM, David Gerard wrote: (I don't think that is the intent - apparently WMF feels like it can mess people around and still get 100% from them. I do consider that the problems really haven't been considered.) I

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: It would be, if that's what it were about.  But I can say with confidence that at the board meeting, no one spoke about any ideas even remotely similar to this, and I can't think of a single board member who disagrees

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: On 8/9/11 3:47 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: It seems to me that these changes are about making chapters more into franchises. Which I find to be exactly backwards. It would be, if that's what it were about. But I can say

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Nathan
2011/8/10 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com: OK, I've read this sentence five times now, and this is what I read: Board members agree that chapters should be directed or controlled in a top-down fashion as franchises I think there is a double negative here that is saying the opposite of

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: Redefining the chapters who participated in a joint fundraiser with WMF as WMF's payment processors is straight-up insulting. Whoa, please slow down! No one has said anything like that, and it isn't how the term is

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't care what people spoke of, nor of what they desire, nor what their agenda is. I never supposed that people were conspiring to fail.  I care what effect the actions people are proposing will result in.  I am quite

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't care what people spoke of, nor of what they desire, nor what their agenda is. I never supposed that people were conspiring to fail. I care what effect

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think chapters are being cut off I think they are being centralized. Centralization, not lack of funding, is what I believe will make chapters ineffective. Frankly, I think cutting off their funding would be less

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think chapters are being cut off I think they are being centralized. Centralization, not lack of funding, is what I believe will make

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:23 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think chapters are being cut off I think they are being centralized.

Re: [Foundation-l] The problem with Incubator: An interactive journey

2011-08-10 Thread M. Williamson
Well the problem is that http://www.wikipedia.org/ should remain language neutral IMHO. Otherwise, I would propose a link that says Is your language not listed here?. Unless anyone has any better ideas, perhaps we could work around this by having such a message (which is relatively short), but