Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation

2011-12-04 Thread Przykuta
Hello, Last month I was in Qatar and introduced some people to Wikipedia. While they were creating their accounts, some of them had their initial suggested username taken, so they had to repeat it a couple of times until they finally found an available username. One of them had

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation

2011-12-04 Thread Fred Bauder
Hello, Last month I was in Qatar and introduced some people to Wikipedia. While they were creating their accounts, some of them had their initial suggested username taken, so they had to repeat it a couple of times until they finally found an available username. One of them had

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation

2011-12-04 Thread Przykuta
What does Special:ListUsers =/= list of all users with SUL mean? I thought the problem was to find account names that are not being used. If you search for a name you think you might want to use it returns a list of existing accounts. What is SUL?

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation

2011-12-04 Thread Fred Bauder
Hello, Last month I was in Qatar and introduced some people to Wikipedia. While they were creating their accounts, some of them had their initial suggested username taken, so they had to repeat it a couple of times until they finally found an available username. One of them had

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation

2011-12-04 Thread Mateus Nobre
I think it's easier if you write your username in a box and appears early ''sorry, it's already used'' or ''available!''. Like the e-mail system. I never liked the suggestions system. _ MateusNobre MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects (+55) 85 88393509

[Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Andreas K.
There was a lengthy discussion recently on en:WP at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates#FAC_spends_too_much_time_on_trivial_topics about the fact that many featured articles – at least on en:WP – are about niche topics, while so-called vital articles (VA),

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
uh .. you are right ... sometimes one might wonder what http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Education_Program are for if such basic articles stay in such a state. like one professor for information technology:

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Peter Jacobi
It's hard to write articles about general topics, general principles, overviews. Just describing a detail, one specific thing, is much easier and can be done in an assembly line style. Also, niche topics always seem to be more attractive than the normal stuff. English Wikipedia nearly has more on

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Alasdair
I agree that the discussion about important topics is cruical - but it is important to read that whole thread to get a balanced view. The discussion from experienced contributors makes it very clear that: a) the analysis given in that presentation was hugely flawed and that; b) peer

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Edward Buckner
Interesting that Theology is not a 'vital article'. As for philosophy, none of the main philosophical schools (nominalism, realism, scepticism, empiricism, rationalism, existentialism etc) are mentioned. Why is this? ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 4 December 2011 17:49, Edward Buckner peter.dam...@btinternet.com wrote: Interesting that Theology is not a 'vital article'.  As for philosophy, none of the main philosophical schools (nominalism, realism, scepticism, empiricism, rationalism, existentialism etc) are mentioned. Why is this?

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:01:45 +, Andreas K. jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There was a lengthy discussion recently on en:WP at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates#FAC_spends_too_much_time_on_trivial_topics about the fact that many featured articles –

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Edward Buckner
Thomas Dalton There are always going to be disagreements over what should constitute a vital article. There are disagreements about whether Theology is a vital article? Isn't the real answer that no one has actually looked at this list or revised it for some years (clue, I just checked).

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Alasdair
If you look at the '10,000 articles list - it becomes very clear that the selection is totally arbitrary. ( more actors than painters listed - as a random example) So far the best suggestion that I have seen for important articles is that a wikiproject has ranked that article as high or top

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Alasdair
You can see all my contributions to en.wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ajbp or get an overview at http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Ajbplang=enwiki=wikipedia Even if I had never contributed to wikipedia in my life however: If you look at my

[Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours in ~15 minutes

2011-12-04 Thread Steven Walling
Just a reminder that we will be in #wikimedia-office to talk about using the Feedback Dashboard (Special:FeedbackDashboard) to respond to new editors on Wikipedia. The feature is currently enabled in Dutch and English. ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours in ~15 minutes

2011-12-04 Thread Steven Walling
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Just a reminder that we will be in #wikimedia-office to talk about using the Feedback Dashboard (Special:FeedbackDashboard) to respond to new editors on Wikipedia. The feature is currently enabled in Dutch and

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Wow, this thread went from interesting to pointless bickering in record time. Ryan Kaldari On 12/4/11 11:47 AM, Alasdair wrote: You can see all my contributions to en.wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ajbp or get an overview at

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Account Creation

2011-12-04 Thread Jon Harald Søby
Yes, I got the same idea as Mateus when reading this thread: As you type in a user name (or tab to the next box), the form should tell you if that username is taken or not. That will save you a lot of trouble going back to try a new user name. 2011/12/4 Mateus Nobre mateus.no...@live.co.uk I

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipecies charter

2011-12-04 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote: On 12/3/11 11:33 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: ... Does anyone know where this Jimmy quote comes from?  I presume it is after the WMF board meeting on 5 September 2004 as it quotes from it

Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: office hours this morning with WMF General Counsel

2011-12-04 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Saturday, December 3, 2011, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, This is a reminder that in about 20 minutes Geoff Brigham, our General Counsel, will be in #wikimedia-office to answer your questions. This is Geoff's first office hours, so please take a moment before

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
i started improving http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_technology and i felt somehow left alone by you native english speakers only writing emails :) what do you think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WPRV prepared by the team around

Re: [Foundation-l] Vital Articles underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread Alasdair
I think rupert and I perhaps got crossed wires in translation… getting us back on topic - I am not sure that the defining important argument is the most cruicial part of the problem (though at a glance it does look like more work has been done on those than on vital articles) . I think the