[Foundation-l] Creative Commons licenses v4 drafts available

2012-04-06 Thread David Gerard
https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/32157 The fussy buggers of Wikimedia need to get nitpicking ... - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 April 2012 07:47, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: We had started a stub table about this: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_that_need_to_be_free This is brilliant! I've been after something like this for a while. - d.

[Foundation-l] Conservapedia announce exciting new linked data project

2012-04-01 Thread David Gerard
America’s most trusted encyclopedia, Conservapedia, have decided to launch a new wiki-based semantic data project named Conservadata. The new project will make right-wing soundbites available in machine readable form. http://blog.tommorris.org/post/20277406012/conservadata - d.

[Foundation-l] Why our privacy policy is a big public win

2012-03-31 Thread David Gerard
This is about what happens when someone does the *bloody simple and obvious* with all the data that Facebook, FourSquare, etc. live of getting people to give out:

Re: [Foundation-l] resolution on voting transparency

2012-03-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 March 2012 13:56, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: That's a very welcome move, and I hope it helps build bridges back to the community. From time to time we will have very divisive issues to discuss, and in such situations it is much easier for the losing side in the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiktionary App, beta release (Android v1.0.1b)

2012-03-28 Thread David Gerard
On 27 March 2012 23:43, Patrick Hayes pfha...@gmail.com wrote: The first beta release of the Wiktionary mobile app for Android has been released! You can download the .apk file here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4187555/WiktionaryActivity-v101b.apk) and load it onto your device. This ... is

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 March 2012 23:16, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know what kind of experiments we're talking about? Only those who read to the top of the thread. (Article feedback tool, new article wizard, etc.) - d. ___ foundation-l mailing

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 March 2012 20:13, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Every article on a non extinct animal species is a somewhat viable and useful goal (and it keeps us one step ahead of web of life) Goodness yes. My 4yo loves videos of animals, and there's e.g. just about no fish that can be filmed that

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 March 2012 08:37, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: First, has anyone thought about automatically adding a welcome message to the user’s talk page when they first register, not only for EN but also for Commons, Simple, and other projects? Is there any evidence anyone reads the

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 March 2012 10:47, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Your tone comes across as harsh. I believe this is actually an objection to the content of my post rather than its formatting. Do you have any positive suggestions about how to improve editor retention? This is evidence you

Re: [Foundation-l] User talk templates

2012-03-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 March 2012 10:56, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Why would you not want to provide people guidance before they've made their first edit, and why not provide them some encouragement to edit in a welcome message? Because in practice, new editors don't read them - they think the

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 March 2012 15:39, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: I can't say I find that a particularly exciting prospect. Especially not, as perhaps I wrongly conjure from context given by this discussion, video shot on mobile phones. I'm picturing wonky-cam, shakey footage that someone has

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 March 2012 08:17, Jürgen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com wrote: I wonder whether we should rather use our strength in users' demand in order to make pressure on manufacturers to support free-software codecs than adopting the costly and patented codecs. I mean, it's not only about

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 March 2012 22:32, Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org wrote: Today those kinds of communications happen much more rarely. My hunch is that templates caused that. Now, we just leave template messages instead of writing a personal note about a specific edit. And it turns out the new editors

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-21 Thread David Gerard
On 22 March 2012 00:11, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Can you show an example of a user making his or her 10th, 100th, or 1000th high quality edit who's being blanketed with impersonal warnings? I don't understand this phenomenon, though it sounds fascinating. I'm around the hundred

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-20 Thread David Gerard
This is a drastic policy change that affects all projects, and so needs wider discussion than just wikitech-l. -- Forwarded message -- From: Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com Date: 20 March 2012 01:24 Subject: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile To: Wikimedia developers

Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 March 2012 18:39, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: On 20 March 2012 18:24, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: (The SEO people are correct that Wikipedia has a high Google ranking, and correct that this is something of an odd skew on Google's part. What always amuses me is

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile

2012-03-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 March 2012 20:02, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: I'm not opposed to trying H.264, but I doubt it will solve our problem, which is that we have too few videos. The category:Videos from Sweden (an early adopter market) is now at 110 files, which is a ridiculously small number. It

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 March 2012 00:22, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Was a

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 March 2012 07:33, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: I did use a very old konversationslexikon as a child, mainly for the pictures. With our children this got replaced now by online resources. And no, not by wikipedia, but by YouTube. And every time I spend 15 minutes to

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 March 2012 05:16, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I will actually look for a copy of the 15th edition (for sentimental reasons) to buy before they get too rare and too expensive :D Of course I will miss it! If Britannica is gone we will need to start printing Wikipedia ;-) I see

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 March 2012 12:50, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: Interesting news indeed. Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Something like

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 March 2012 12:28, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: deepest parts of the US bible belt, and areas such as Pakistan and India, which have sizeable English-speaking populations and a very strong religious vein. With such a diverse worldwide readership on one language,

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 March 2012 13:55, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: When you consider that the current proposal is for a system where it takes one click to see something anyway, I do think the notion that something is not knowable is over the top. The rationale is problematic: to

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status - the image filter disguised under a new label

2012-03-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 March 2012 20:24, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm tired to reply to this kind of comments since I said anything important  multiple times already. So I will keep it as that and only write the following: Sorry, but your comments are total bullshit¹ and you know

Re: [Foundation-l] UK Parliament Joint Committee on Privacy and Injunctions

2012-03-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 March 2012 02:52, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There are a number of sections touching on Wikimedia, notably those beginning on the following pages: http://www.parliament.uk/documents/joint-committees/Privacy_and_Injunctions/JCPIWrittenEvWeb.pdf#page=425 Written by you and

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is Arbcom is actively promoting Wikipedia Review?

2012-03-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 March 2012 11:19, Robert Alvarez vez...@gmail.com wrote: I see at least two current Arbcom members posting there quite recently and even responding to requests of banned users to do things on their behalf on Wikipedia (such as John Vandenberg working for Edward Buckner). Editing on

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Landing Pages - functional prototype to test and comment on

2012-03-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 March 2012 14:18, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: People creating articles by clicking on redlinks are not as a general rule a significant issue. That appears to be a numerical claim. Do we have numbers? - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Landing Pages - functional prototype to test and comment on

2012-03-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 March 2012 14:54, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Not that I'm aware of but if you follow special:newpages for any length of time you will notice a tendency for the problematical articles to be orphans. After all a redlink generally means that at least one other person has thought that

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Landing Pages - functional prototype to test and comment on

2012-03-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 March 2012 14:58, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 March 2012 14:54, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Not that I'm aware of but if you follow special:newpages for any length of time you will notice a tendency for the problematical articles to be orphans. After all a redlink

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2012-03-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 March 2012 22:15, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The image filter may not be a good solution, but too much of the response involves saying we're fine, we're neutral, we don't need to do anything and leaving it there; this isn't the case, and we do need to think seriously

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 March 2012 13:52, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: So what you're saying is, you feel confident that everyone agrees with you, and thus perfectly comfortable speaking on behalf of the entire community? I see. I thought he was noting the observation that when the Board and staff tried to

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2012-03-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 March 2012 14:50, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Partly because it is the low hanging fruit (i.e. the thing that will have the most impact in forwarding our goals of accessible knowledge). Citation needed. - d. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-07 Thread David Gerard
2012/3/7 Juliana da Costa José julianadacostaj...@googlemail.com: so it would be not longer possible too, to have medical pictures f.e. from surgeries, organs or corpses, because they could frighten people? Knowledge is an inherently frightening thing, as is the prospect of other people

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 March 2012 22:41, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: WMF is looking to work together with lots of mainstream organisations, from the British Museum to the Smithsonian. But this kind of curation of adult content is an embarrassment for the Wikimedia Foundation, and a potential

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-07 Thread David Gerard
On 8 March 2012 07:13, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:00 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: So, yeah, things are on hold essentially because there are more urgent things to do, and because given the rather extraordinary scale of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2012 17:07, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:32 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: You do realise this has become a toxic electoral issue for the board, with people who voted twice for the resolution now backpedalling? Just for the record

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright and cakes...

2012-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2012 22:07, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2012 20:40, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect a court would hold that the set of cakes is disjoint from the set of objects on permanent display, and thus that a photograph of cake can never benefit from

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2012 18:21, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There are people in this movement who are happy with this status quo, and who say they will fork if anything changes. Let them. You have that backwards. You are demanding the board enact something precisely because the

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-05 Thread David Gerard
On 6 March 2012 00:57, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Well, in my opinion I haven't given much indication of what I personally think on the issue at all, as I often explicitly ignored speculation about my own personal views or motivations whether it was right or wrong. I *have*

Re: [Foundation-l] Making Wikimedia Commons into a central repository of creative commons content

2012-03-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 March 2012 13:11, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimedia Commons has the potential to become a central repository of creative commons content. There are a large number of other sites running Mediawiki software to partner with. If we could either host their images or allow users

[Foundation-l] Open Digital RFC on Hargreaves Review comment

2012-03-04 Thread David Gerard
http://blog.opendigital.org/2012/03/crowdsourcerequest-for-feedback-review.html They're trying to compile a suitable response to the Hargreaves Review of copyright in the UK. Wikimedia's name is dropped. It's clearly a draft, further ideas and detail working out will be helpful. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Controversial content software status

2012-03-04 Thread David Gerard
On 5 March 2012 05:03, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I am sorry to say that unless you are prepared to put your foot down, and represent the tens of thousands of people who expressed their views in the (admittedly suboptimal) referendum, you risk becoming an irrelevancy – in exactly

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-03-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 March 2012 10:23, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: If names are that important for you, go ahead and rename foundation-l, but there is really no need for yet another list. +1 Adding a new list would be largely redundant. - d. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-03-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 March 2012 16:30, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The rename would likely occur by unsubscribing current members from this list and re-subscribing them to the new one, to avoid breaking links or accidentally corrupting archives -- meaning that list archives pre-move would be

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia yo mama joke

2012-02-26 Thread David Gerard
https://twitter.com/#!/tommorris/status/173557756882722816 - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 February 2012 13:29, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: However I am interested in whether you have a specific idea of what you would change? Can you express a reason for why using the published test is a poor signal? It produces a rich crop of both false positives and

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-21 Thread David Gerard
On 22 February 2012 03:04, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:35 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: The post-facto probability of 1.0 that the researcher was in fact professional, credible, and by all accounts right does not mean that a priori he

Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)

2012-02-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 February 2012 11:27, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote: Is this really something to get upset over? It's not as if he was calling you stupid, he simply misspelled your name (shortened it, really). People's own names are extremely important to them. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 February 2012 14:29, marcos tal_t...@yahoo.es wrote: There is a simpler solution: to dissolve the current structure of chapters and to leave everything in hands of the magnificent professionals of San Francisco... This is effectively how fundraising now works. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Feedback tab on the English Wikipedia

2012-02-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 February 2012 09:04, n...@thebabbages.com wrote: I guess my concern is that it may encourage readers to type in suggestions and take it no further rather than take the next step and begin editing themselves. At present, the average reader doesn't even fix typos. Definitely

Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today

2012-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2012 17:03, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: He's been doing it for years and has never screwed up badly enough for the community to take the job away from him. It's as simple as that. The Wikipedia community can be uncharacteristically pragmatic at times! I note

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 February 2012 12:57, Florence Devouard anthe...@yahoo.com wrote: I do not know if Phoebe would have been community elected or not. She did not try. I can only guess that if she were not chosen this year by chapters, she could very well be community elected in the future because she is

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 February 2012 17:12, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: could you perhaps elaborate how exactly the Free Knowledge would benifit from boycotting non-OA journals? (Not meant sarcastic, I really want to know) Also, how would you imagine such support? I could imagine that with any

[Foundation-l] Stop Online Piracy Now!

2012-01-24 Thread David Gerard
Under SOPN, all copyrighted material which is not licensed under creative commons or public domain or an equally free and liberal license (collectively called public) should be banned from the Internet. By removing all such material which is not publicly licensed, SOPN will kill piracy with one

Re: [Foundation-l] Stop Online Piracy Now!

2012-01-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 January 2012 14:47, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe is a stupid question, but who is this guy? No-one in particular. I just thought it amusing and apposite :-) - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

2012-01-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 January 2012 15:31, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe implement a subreddit schema and some way to create a subreddit for each article?  I don't know what Conde Nast's nastiness level is, though. The Reddit code is open source. Apparently takes more than a little

[Foundation-l] Carl Malamud on digitising everything

2012-01-23 Thread David Gerard
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/23/1725231/carl-malamud-answers-goading-the-government-to-make-public-data-public - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] FW: [Wikitech-l] proposed tech conference anti-harassment policy

2012-01-22 Thread David Gerard
On 21 January 2012 22:57, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: David, I'm a bit surprised that you think a policy that includes the language Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate for any conference venue or talks. is a good idea. I think it'd be difficult to have a discussion about

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

2012-01-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 January 2012 21:43, Yao Ziyuan yaoziy...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I just filed a feature request which I think is of strategic interest to Wikipedia: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33889 Similar to the Opinions tab on Wikinews. Could be interesting. Would need to be

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

2012-01-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 January 2012 23:39, Svip svi...@gmail.com wrote: The name 'talk page' is also a terrible name and very ambiguous as to what it is.  A far more appropriate candidate for such a page's name would be 'collaboration page', 'work page', 'improvement page' and so on. English Wikinews calls

Re: [Foundation-l] Politico: Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa

2012-01-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 January 2012 23:50, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: So we will put a few fallback datacenters elsewhere, just so our various communities and chapters realize we aren't going to be bullied by US jurisdiction. AIUI setting up the new Virginia datacentre took

Re: [Foundation-l] RFC: local mirrors for cheaper and faster access

2012-01-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 January 2012 22:19, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Would it make sense to create some kind of a local mirror of Wikimedia Projects to facilitate participate in such areas? Creating a data center in every such place would probably not be cost-effective, but maybe

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion duration and the SOPA shutdown

2012-01-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 January 2012 02:27, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like the Foundation was more organized about it than the community, and didn't reach out to push early enough.  I understand the desire not to be seen to be leading the community around, but it seems to have

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion duration and the SOPA shutdown

2012-01-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 January 2012 02:27, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: The community en.wp decision is separate, but it was also nuanced, and so I don't think it's true that all these issues were bulldozed, within

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion duration and the SOPA shutdown

2012-01-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 January 2012 17:15, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: The question is, do you plan to migrate the major search engines and DNS servers? If so, then migration might help. Come the SOPAcalypse, the DNS root will fragment. I wonder if Google will break itself up for the purpose. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion duration and the SOPA shutdown

2012-01-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 January 2012 17:26, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Point of information: - are proposals mooted for an alternative DNS root? Presumably, since satellite proposals exist and those are even more radical. There are many existing alternate roots. I suspect it would break into national or

Re: [Foundation-l] Discussion duration and the SOPA shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2012 05:04, Chris Lee theornamental...@gmail.com wrote: The Learn More link at en.wp is blocked too. Works fine for me (and I can read about SOPA and PIPA too), but I've seen a couple of reports of it not working. - d. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout notice errors (English Wikipedia)

2012-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2012 08:03, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote: Just a foreigner sidenote: we got the notice about SOPA and PIPA which does not start by defining, or even linking to what SOPA and PIPA is, what they are shorthand for, and background if anoone wants. It could be (should be)

Re: [Foundation-l] mobile website

2012-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2012 08:26, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Why is the mobile site operational for English Wikipedia? The herd of cats wanted it that way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action Provisions for emergency access to the site should be included in the

Re: [Foundation-l] mobile website

2012-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2012 08:58, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: the emergency access should be at a different location. mobile users should not be privileged. Yeah, I thought it was a bit silly too. But I think we can live with it. - d. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout notice errors (English Wikipedia)

2012-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2012 09:16, Zugravu Gheorghe zugravu.gheor...@gmail.com wrote: apparently if you disable java in your browser - you have normal access to en:wp! JavaScript, not Java :-) It's not a hard, secure block. Basically it's a black, full-page ad banner. Think of Wikipedia Blackout as

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] English Wikipedia to go dark January 18 in opposition to SOPA/PIPA

2012-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2012 13:46, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, sorry, I've made rather a pig's ear of what was meant to be some light coverage of UK Twitter responses to the blackout. I shall post no more on the subject. Heck no, this is useful :-) - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Protest Progress

2012-01-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2012 23:08, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2- key-senators-change-course.html?_r=1nl=afternoonupdateemc=aua2 Call me churlish, but I find it difficult to assume good faith in Orrin Hatch

Re: [Foundation-l] Vietnamese Wikipedia join protest SOPA and PIPA

2012-01-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 January 2012 15:50, Minh Huy (WMF) minhhuyw...@gmail.com wrote: Vietnamese Wikipedia community is planning to show banner on 18/1. Similar to ItalianWiki, GermanyWiki, and Commons. See

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2012 14:08, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: WMIT is interested, too, because the board has decided to move the semi-free and PD-Italy content hosted on biblioteca.wikimedia.it to wikilivres and we'd like Canada to be still able to host it... PD-Italy is broader

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2012 17:31, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: WMF reply to this thread http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Field_cricket_Gryllus_pennsylvanicus.ogg Step 1 was not taken yet. As I noted, you want it to happen, you would be the person to write the post. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] just wondering, are we going to take down en.wikipedia.org?

2012-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2012 19:27, Dan Collins en.wp.s...@gmail.com wrote: http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/204167-sopa-shelved-until-consensus-is-found The House decided they're going to stop bothering with this bill for a while, so while we should continue to think about what we

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2012 18:40, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: If I write that post, I will post it on my blog. Making WMF work is not my interest. My interest is to remark the biased behaviour of them and post some suggestions. Handy hint for the future: this is volunteer land. If you really want

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2012 20:21, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: But I know what I have to do the next time I see a dangerous cultural situation that need help. I won't give a damn. If you post about it in a manner that doesn't come across like an abusive idiot, you may get further. It's worth a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikipedia is considering going dark to protest SOPA and PIPA

2012-01-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 January 2012 10:58, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: I'm seeing a rough consensus for action on English Wikipedia, and German Wikipedians seem to be up for acting in solidarity, but, as I've said on the page on enwiki, I don't see how enwiki consensus for a SOPA action ought to bind

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Fabrice Florin joins Wikimedia

2012-01-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 January 2012 20:57, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: It would be lovely if each of the new hires could guest post on the Foundation blog and/or write a page for Signpost once they've settled in and let us know what their average day is like and some insight into what they're

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 January 2012 09:09, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Structural help is not Wikimedia's task [yet]. There are a lot of other institutions which could give them money for daily operations or artifacts preservation and not require from them knowledge liberation. In other words, it's

Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific

2012-01-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 January 2012 18:19, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification. Yes we at Wikmedia Canada we had discussed starting a Wikisource north of the border due to the benefits of our copyright law. I will send this out to some of our members to see if anyone is

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Funding disputes can be sorted out in the same fashion SOPA disputes, if agents work to

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. Yes, it is. So what's the game plan? - d. ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down

2012-01-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 January 2012 21:13, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure. If the WMF goals are to collect/preserve/disseminate educational content, they can start with the holdings in endangered cultural institutions. It is not my work, but some suggestions, from low to high involvement: * blog

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 December 2011 12:01, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: Full agreement with geni here. Blinking banners are against the spirit of the Wikipedia Manual of Style. If this is not clear in the banner guidelines then this needs to be made explicit. Indeed. Inspiring people to install AdBlock may

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 December 2011 14:58, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure I raised both these concerns last year when you ran similar banners and they were never addressed other than to say that such banners raise a lot of money (which is the point - they are misleading people

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 December 2011 11:23, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: So, to reply to Liam's point first - no, that's not the real reason, that's something that I, personally, think should be taken into account as a secondary consideration; as said, I've emailed people asking for more concrete

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 December 2011 11:55, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: I freely admit I was being a bit flippant. But that was just because I knew I was in the right. Let us put it this succintly: Being passive aggressive rather than aggressive about the way things are allowed as valid

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 December 2011 17:10, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: I do not think the aims of the mechanism are wrong. But I *do* think the mechanism itself and any attempts to fashion such in a universe of human beings is totally and fundamentally disrespectful towards reality. That

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 December 2011 17:45, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: I'm quite keen on the idea of a free-form comment box accessible to those wanting to edit. It's much more accessible article feedback than the same from OTRS. I dunno, like a talk page, perhaps? You might think

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 December 2011 18:01, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 7:57 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: You might think so, but readers (pretty much) don't know those exist, and never mind the tab at the top. (They pretty much don't know the history

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy

2011-12-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 December 2011 15:30, John Du Hart compwhi...@gmail.com wrote: This is currently on the reddit front page http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/nnv9l/wikipediaorg_is_with_godaddy_jimmy_if_youre/ Why we're using GoDaddy in the first place is beyond me, surely there's better options

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy

2011-12-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 December 2011 19:20, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/jimmy_wales/status/150287579642740736 GoDaddy have backed down - http://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news_item_id=378 - but it's too ... it's too bloody late. - d

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia domains at GoDaddy

2011-12-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 December 2011 19:25, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/12/11 16:30, John Du Hart wrote: This is currently on the reddit front page http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/nnv9l/wikipediaorg_is_with_godaddy_jimmy_if_youre/ Everybody there seem to know whatever evil

Re: [Foundation-l] RevisionRank: automatically finding out high-quality revisions of an article

2011-12-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 December 2011 01:16, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Under your metric, in this scenario, the edits of a sysop and an experienced user, or later the WikiProject editors, would not be chosen as the high-quality stable version. Yao did in fact mention that other factors would need

Re: [Foundation-l] Smurfs Movie is infringing on wikipedia copyright

2011-12-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 December 2011 12:38, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok. I understand that. Maybe I am getting upset over nothing, but when it comes to shutting down people who copy small clips and snippets from movies, it seems that the industry also shows no mercy. It would be

Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia

2011-12-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 December 2011 16:46, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: You can call me an idealist -- if there are still some taking passengers at this late hour. I was in fact referring to the problem of our legal counsel expressing a view that it is to WMF favor to have laws that make

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