Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-04 Thread Daniel Mietchen
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 February 2012 00:31, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.comwrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Open_Knowledge_Foundation_Germany/Open_Access_Catalogue/OA_publishers/DOI_prefixes_entirely_OA

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-04 Thread John Vandenberg
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 February 2012 00:31, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.comwrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-04 Thread Daniel Mietchen
-- http://www.google.com/profiles/daniel.mietchen On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:56 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: The problem and potential solution are explained here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:OA-ness Thanks - I took one of the workarounds you pointed to, so

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-02 Thread Kat Walsh
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Chess Pie derby_...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like a braindead law. Does the foundation have a specific position on OpenAccess? The WMF as an entity doesn't have a specific position/policy,

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-02 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:19 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Chess Pie derby_...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like a braindead law. Does the foundation have a specific position on

[Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Fred Bauder
Elsevier is emblematic of an abusive publishing industry. The government pays me and other scientists to produce work, and we give it away to private entities, says Brett S. Abrahams, an assistant professor of genetics at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. Then they charge us to read it. Mr.

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Fred Bauder
Another article: http://chronicle.com/article/Who-Gets-to-See-Published/130403/ Elsevier has supported a proposed federal law, the Research Works Act (HR 3699), that could prevent agencies like the National Institutes of Health from making all articles written by grant recipients freely

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
I don't know if it's the case, but it would be very interesting to have the Foundation support officialy the campaign (single scholars can do decide to boycott, of course). But universal access to universal knowledge is pretty Open Access to me, and this think is taking momentum, hopefully will be

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Chess Pie
4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott I don't know if it's the case, but it would be very interesting to have the Foundation support officialy the campaign (single scholars can do decide to boycott, of course). But universal access to universal knowledge is pretty Open Access to me

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Andrea, could you perhaps elaborate how exactly the Free Knowledge would benifit from boycotting non-OA journals? (Not meant sarcastic, I really want to know) Also, how would you imagine such support? I could imagine that with any support by Wikimedia for a boycott, people would assume

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread David Richfield
If I understand the suggestion properly, the idea was not to stop linking to articles in closed journals, but to find some meaningful way to support the efforts of the researchers who are boycotting closed journals (i.e. they are not publishing in them). -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]]

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:27 PM, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: If I understand the suggestion properly, the idea was not to stop linking to articles in closed journals, but to find some meaningful way to support the efforts of the researchers who are boycotting closed

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 February 2012 17:12, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: could you perhaps elaborate how exactly the Free Knowledge would benifit from boycotting non-OA journals? (Not meant sarcastic, I really want to know) Also, how would you imagine such support? I could imagine that with any

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Andrea Zanni
2012/2/1 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Hi Andrea, could you perhaps elaborate how exactly the Free Knowledge would benifit from boycotting non-OA journals? (Not meant sarcastic, I really want to know) Hi Lodewijk, thanks for the engaging question ;-) Boycotting non-OA journals is

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Kim Bruning
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 12:53:23PM -0500, Gwern Branwen wrote: Of course, this proposal has the problem that to work, it would require editors to add a lot of content, rather than delete it. But it shows that we have a lot of options besides the simple-minded 'ban Elsevier citations' option.

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread geni
On 1 February 2012 20:14, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: Coulw we start a WikiJournal of some sort? Been floated from time to time thus not going to happen (Akin to WikiNews in operation, perhaps?) No. If were actually going to launch a journal we would do it in a conventional

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread Daniel Mietchen
I think that skipping non-OA sources is not a valid option, though encouragement of the use of relevant OA sources is. One way to achieve that could be by highlighting the OA-ness of cited references, as is now common practice in the Research section of the Signpost (most recent example:

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread John Vandenberg
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 February 2012 00:31, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietc...@googlemail.comwrote: I think that skipping non-OA sources is not a valid option, though encouragement of the use of relevant OA sources is. One way to achieve

Re: [Foundation-l] Journal Boycott

2012-02-01 Thread phoebe ayers
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Chess Pie derby_...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like a braindead law. Does the foundation have a specific position on OpenAccess? The WMF as an entity doesn't have a specific position/policy, though in general we are squarely in the camp of OA supporters; but as