[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-15 Thread Joan Goma
From: Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books Message-ID: CAELXKR+ZfmYr04K=gT_Kwu0SDDp0XTn53XfCY=bg7z2+b0a

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Joan Goma jrg...@gmail.com wrote: The idea is that if they believe (or their marketing studies say) there is a market for an encyclopedia reviewed by professionals I think that this is not incompatible with free license. If it were published under a free

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Neil Babbage
Foundation Mailing List ReplyTo: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books Sent: 13 Mar 2012 22:58 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I thought they had already stopped... I'm

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Joan Goma
From: Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikipedia list wikipedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, English Wikipedia wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Chris Keating
I think what you might be remembering is that they used to sell them via a sales force who went door to door. They announced a few years back that they were stopping that. And, indeed, it was the reliance on the sales force that killed off Britannica in the late-80s/early-90s when Encarta

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Samuel Klein, 14/03/2012 03:00: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanterpute...@mccme.ru wrote: No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I am confusing things. There's

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Milos Rancic
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:00, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Russavia
Interesting news indeed. Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Russavia On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 14/03/12 13:17, Milos Rancic wrote: There is ~20 volumes Serbian Encyclopedia in progress, likely to be finished around 2050. I have no idea what would be the purpose of that Milos, please. It will likely be finished around 2025. paper encyclopedia at that time, but I know that it is

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Michael Peel
On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: Interesting news indeed. Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Something like this: http://www.labnol.org/internet/wikipedia-printed-book/9136/ ? (And

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 March 2012 12:50, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: On 14 Mar 2012, at 12:21, Russavia wrote: Interesting news indeed. Lead's one to wonder when WMF will launch it's first printed encyclopaedia. Perhaps a 2013 Citation Needed edition is in the works? Something like

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Joan Goma
From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com On 14 March 2012 09:40, Joan Goma jrg...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunatelly they still not realize that if published using a free licence compatible with Wikipedeia their income would be even 15 times larger. Would it? Can you explain how that

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/14/12 2:29 PM, Joan Goma wrote: Catalan Wikipedia has about 10 times more pageviews than them. If they use a free license and use a wiki then their professionals can copy our best articles and review them and we can copy their content. 7,8% of their page-views go there from Catalan

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: I don't think that copying articles is the way to go. If the two projects have separate articles on the same subjects that's still a very good thing. They can still maintain their professional standards, whatever that

[Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
2010's 32-volume set will be its last. (Now I want to get one, to replace my old set!) Future versions will be digital only. http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/after-244-years-encyclopaedia-britannica-stops-the-presses/?smid=tw-nytimesseid=auto

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? On 13 March 2012 22:49, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: 2010's 32-volume set will be its last.  (Now I want to get one, to replace my old

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:54:48 +, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I thought they had already stopped... I'm sure I remember an announcement like this a year or two ago... does anyone know what it is I'm remembering? No, I think there were only like three big universal

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: No, I think there were only like three big universal encyclopaedias still being printed (Britannica, Brockhaus, and Russian Encyclopaedia?), unless I am confusing things. There's also World Book in English, the

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Tim Starling
On 14/03/12 11:22, phoebe ayers wrote: I've been asked to write a short editorial about this development from a Wikipedian's perspective and am curious about (and would love to include) other Wikimedian experiences -- did you use print encyclopedias as a kid? Was a love of print encyclopedias