Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-10-09 Thread Happy-melon
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote in message news:4ac226e2.7010...@gmail.com... Indeed I fully agree that ensuring that using the extension on massively edited pages is something that works fine, is entirely prudent; whereas ensuring perfect functionality for the full force of

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-10-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: [snip] It's not just that.  On a technological level, considerable sections of the FlaggedRevs code are called on *every* page view, whether the page has FlaggedRevs behaviour or not.  Even if it's eventually saying no,

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-10-09 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: [snip] It's not just that.  On a technological level, considerable sections of the FlaggedRevs code are called on *every* page view, whether the

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-29 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Andrew Gray wrote: I believe that scalable here refers to putting it on pages which recieve the kind of traffic and editing (or editing attempts) that very high-profile page on enwiki do, rather than scalable to being applied to three million pages. At the time Michael Jackson's death was

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi Greg, a quick note on Sue's behalf since we're all quite swamped right now. On the tech side of things we're planning for the CTO transition right now, as well as building up our capacity; those are core foundation-building priorities that have to be higher than any specific deployment,

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: [snip] plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not trivial: The scalability concerns at that size are a step more serious than with

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/9/28 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: Of course. But I wasn't expecting a turn up on English Wikipedia yet. I'm asking why the 25 lines of configuration that EnWP specified have not yet been added to the test wiki at http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page I'll review the

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Brian
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: [snip] plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not trivial:

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: and we're also concerned about the potential negative impact on participation. Please help me understand the implications of this statement. It simply means that a) we want to make sure that for the production roll-out,

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions)for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Sue Gardner
, Sue -Original Message- From: Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:59:44 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing Listfoundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia. On Mon, Sep 28

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions)for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/28 Sue Gardner susanpgard...@gmail.com: Greg, I really don't want to reply to the specifics of this conversation -- Brion and Erik and others are much more deeply involved, and therefore better situated to respond. But I will say this: I know some people have speculated, or asked, if

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Brion Vibber
On 9/28/09 4:18 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: On 9/28/09 1:04 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Erik Moellere...@wikimedia.org wrote: [snip] plan, and Brion is hoping to invest some of his remaining time with it in helping to get the extension ready for en.wp. It's not

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: Gregory, To address: My leading hypothesis were either that the staff was incredibly overloaded with new initiatives like usability and strategywiki...WMF's priorities have become so warped due to petitioning by

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Brion Vibber
On 9/28/09 4:57 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: 3) This page does not have a stable version; page stability settings can be configured.- click this link [ideally that next form will be better integrated into the protection form in future]

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Brion Vibber
On 9/28/09 4:57 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: Switching it in for thie page to The stable revision; if not present, then the current/draft one, I now see the little 'sighted' box on the article page and have the review interface at the bottom (though some of the UI elements haven't been fully

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: Of course. But I wasn't expecting a turn up on English Wikipedia yet. I'm asking why the 25 lines of configuration that EnWP specified have not yet been added to the test wiki at

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/29 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to function when I test them. Quick steps to try it out: [snip] Where do you want comments? I'll put the one I

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Brion Vibber
On 9/28/09 5:23 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to function when I test them. Holy crap! In my defense: It's pretty clear that no one was aware that it was turned

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/29 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/9/29 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to function when I test them. Quick steps to try it out: [snip]

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Erik Moeller
2009/9/28 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: It seems to work just fine, actually. The extension is on, the configuration is being loaded for the right database, and things seem to function when I test them. Thanks for looking into it, Brion. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread wjhonson
But not established users ? -Original Message- From: Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2009 5:36 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/29 wjhon...@aol.com: But not established users ? Not established users what? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread wjhonson
Message- From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2009 5:56 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia. 2009/9/29 wjhon...@aol.com

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/29 wjhon...@aol.com:  You cut off the response.? I was responding directly to the post previous where it was stated that crats and admins could poke at this.? So I'm wondering why not open it to all established editors.? There are editors who have been around a long time and are

Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia.

2009-09-28 Thread wjhonson
:13 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Status of flagged protection (flagged revisions) for English Wikipedia. 2009/9/29 wjhon...@aol.com: ?You cut off the response.? I was responding directly to the post previous where it was stated that crats and admins could poke at this.? So I'm