Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Danilo Šegan
Yesterday at 22:13, David Neary wrote: I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many reasons to do this, here are 5: Another, actually most important reason: — 3rd was GUAD3C — 4th was GU4DEC — 5th was GVADEC — 6th was 6UADEC And what would 7th be? I suggest something

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Vincent Untz
On Tue, September 6, 2005 08:36, Danilo Å egan wrote: If we were KDE, I'd vote for replacing aKademy with Konference so, it should be Gnomference for us ;-) I like it: it sounds like GNOME France ;-) To answer Dave: I like GUADEC (more than GConf, to be honest). But look at various other

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Vincent Untz a écrit : To answer Dave: I like GUADEC (more than GConf, to be honest). But look at various other conferences: is their name easily understandable? I don't think it's more understandable than GUADEC, but once you know what it means, you remember it. OSCon DefCon Linux Expo

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 11:47 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Vincent Untz a écrit : We could keep GUADEC and when advertising it, have a note about it's meaning. For example, on posters, you would write a big GUADEC and add a subtitle. The logo is important too. I mean, when people see

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Glynn Foster
Hi, On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 13:07 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Yeah :) The call of papers is useless any earlier than December or January, because most people aren't thinking about May or June until then anyway. The website doesn't need to be done until then either. We do need to start

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Vincent Untz
On Tue, September 6, 2005 12:09, Murray Cumming wrote: I think it will, because it'll be clear that it's a conference. It'll be easier for the press to write, too. Yes, GnomeCon, or such like, would be more straightforward. Let's try another question: who are the new people we want to see?

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Vincent Untz a écrit : Let's try another question: who are the new people we want to see? People who know GNOME? People who don't know GNOME? If they don't know GNOME, GnomeCon/GConf is not clearer than GUADEC. If they know GNOME, there are some chances they will learn about GUADEC being a

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller a écrit : So the solution is that we dump the name that a lot of people in the free software world knows by now and instead switch to a new name... Building up name recognition and brand takes a lot of time. Let's kill this excuse dead straight away.

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:08:04PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: There is no name recognition. GUADEC has no brand value. Changing it will help sponsorship, not hurt it. No-one outside the geek community likes the meaningless acronym tho,ng. It's *so* 1990s, already. So let's change GNOME

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Bill Haneman
Quim Gil wrote: The only conflict I see is the E of European. Tilt it on its side and it's fine, W for world. I like GUADEC too, I think we risk losing some recognition/mindshare by changing. And once you hear the name, you never forget it. Bill I would solve the conflict by

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many reasons to do this, here are 5: Brilliant idea. Its one of the worst names marketing wise, it means nothing to people. I would try to go for simple Gnome Conference or maybe Gnome Conf. I think that GConf is just

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 10:03 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: I would try to go for simple Gnome Conference or maybe Gnome Conf. I think that GConf is just being too cute. Agreed GConf isn't a good idea any more than OAF or BONOBO would be. A name change of a conference usually is done for one of

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Žygimantas Beručka
An, 2005 09 06 14:04 +0200, Dave Neary rašė: The main idea to change the name is because it's yet another meaningless acronym which sucks. It's not a good name. The only reason to keep it is because we've been using it for 6 years. Every other word out there sucks if one doesn't know its

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Toady
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 17:53 +0300, Žygimantas Beručka wrote: Every other word out there sucks if one doesn't know its meaning, whether it's Linux, Windows, Aqua, KDE or IBM itself. Try to convince IBM to change its name into something similar to IntBussMach (the case with fooConf). They don't

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, David Neary wrote: Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:13:25 +0200 From: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Foundation-List foundation-list@gnome.org Cc: Guadec planning mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Changing the name of GUADEC I would like to propose changing the name

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Alan Horkan
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Alan Horkan wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, David Neary wrote: Davyd Madeley came up with GConf. This isn't an improve and not enough of an improvement to merit the change. If you had said Gnome Con which should need no further explanation I might have been able to take

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Žygimantas Beručka
An, 2005 09 06 09:57 -0600, Elijah Newren rašė: I like GConf for that reason, and because it's got Conf in it, and it's a better abbreviation for 'the GNOME Conference' than GNOMECon or GNOME-Con(which has too many capitals) and GnomeCon violates the religious doctrine on GNOME

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Bill Haneman
Žygimantas Beručka wrote: An, 2005 09 06 14:06 +0100, Bill Haneman rašė: The only conflict I see is the E of European. Tilt it on its side and it's fine, W for world. Oh, this is a real gem. Could anyone comment on this? This touches the *real* reason (4. Do we really want

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Žygimantas Beručka
Pr, 2005 09 05 22:13 +0200, David Neary rašė: 1. There is no link to GNOME in the name, or to being a conference It is. As we all know, G in 'GUADEC' stands for GNOME, and C is for conference. 2. No-one knows what it means, which means the first question people ask isn't when is it? or

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 16:31 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: Davyd Madeley came up with GConf. This isn't an improve and not enough of an improvement to merit the change. If you had said Gnome Con which should need no further explanation I might have been able to take your comment seriously but

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Tim Ney
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 02:20 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: GConf. I suggested the name quoted here while speaking tongue in cheek. How about gcc, the GNOME Community Conference? timm ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Love
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:12 -0400, Tim Ney wrote: How about gcc, the GNOME Community Conference? I like GNOME Unified Architecture Discussion and Engagement Conference You know, for the kids. Robert Love ___ foundation-list mailing list

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Rob Adams
General Upgraded Android Designed for Efficient Calculation. On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:23 -0400, Robert Love wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:12 -0400, Tim Ney wrote: How about gcc, the GNOME Community Conference? I like GNOME Unified Architecture Discussion and Engagement Conference You

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Elijah Newren
On 9/6/05, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: General Upgraded Android Designed for Efficient Calculation. Grandiose Ubiquitous Acronyms Designed to Eradicate Conflict ...or maybe at least the flamewars, though there might be a bug in their current implementation. ;-)

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Love
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 13:46 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote: On 9/6/05, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: General Upgraded Android Designed for Efficient Calculation. Grandiose Ubiquitous Acronyms Designed to Eradicate Conflict You are all--all of you are--killing my joke. The joke was not