On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 10:08 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
and also this second live GNOME trademark:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=4001:mi6n4v.2.40
The second one
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 12:44 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
Hi everyone,
we are organizing a FOSS related event in Siena (Italy) on October 22
and 23 and we'll have a little stand dedicated to GNOME.
I know it could be late, but it could be really great to have some
marketing and/or
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 18:25 +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote:
Hm. Well, there is a German GNOME Foundation
Only just, and it's probably not active enough to be still valid.
which, AFAIK, is a proper
German legal entity with all rights and duties, i.e. donations can be
deducted from the tax.
No,
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 17:50 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
If you have questions, please let us know. The board will consolidate
the questions and will be interviewing the teams.
We should try to get some more GNOME people into the organization team.
As pointed out earlier, a
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 21:22 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Joanmarie Diggs
joanmarie.di...@gmail.com wrote:
As a matter of fact, personally I am not jazzed by the entire ending:
Please keep in mind that the GNOME Foundation is not the right
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 03:15 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
* Vote on the new Code of Conduct
o Add changes proposed by Brian and Murray and then vote.
o ACTION - Vincent - Announce that the new Code of Conduct
is
approved
You mean the Speaker Guidelines, not
Brian Cameron wrote:
Oops, missing link here:
http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct/SpeakerGuidelines
I cleaned up some of the text on this page, though I didn't think deeply
about the content.
However, I think it is currently an invitation to the same old
philosophical discussion every
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 13:23 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote:
We do not consider this to be excessive censorship. It does not
stop
you from offending outside of the community.
I agree with the above additions. However, I would word that last
paragraph differently.
We do not consider this to
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:08 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
We debaters should decrease our traffic on this mailing list
No. Stubborn people who insist on having the last word should stop
pointless arguments. It's bad enough when people think they can have a
conversation with one of you. It's
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 09:03 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
At some point you have to clean up your code base, that's been the
case
in every project I have worked on. I don't think it is a bad thing
that
GTK+ is released just more cleaned up, but others disagree and want
3.0 to have x, y and
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:08 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
That said, the discussion started because of Clutter and its copyright
assignment and the fact that that is blocking it's inclusion in GNOME
2.28.
I'm not a lawyer, so I'm very ready for someone to just tell me that I'm
wrong, but:
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 21:05 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
I like to ask for your support in my petition for referendum to make
foundation-list archives private and membership limited to actual
Foundation
members. If we make that change we would be able to discuss matters freely
without
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:50 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
This is about signal-to-noise ratio, not
about keeping secrets.
So why not just moderate the list? In fact, I thought that
non-foundation-members were not even allowed to post here?
For instance, I don't understand why RMS's emails
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 13:43 +, Benjamin Otte wrote:
I have a problem here. I am not sure I have a clear idea of what type
of
interaction is causing these issues.
I don't know what triggered the discussion this time either, so this
might be totally irrelevant:
We do have a real problem
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:45 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
That's exactly correct. Another term for it is 'volunteer'. :) You're
certainly welcome to volunteer to improve it yourself, of course.
It's far beneath her abilities, but can't you delegate the
minutes-taking to our paid employee?
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The types of people who need to be moderated are generally going to
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On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 14:00 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
We did that for the European box. Murray, if you tell me what you
bought that worked, I can ask Rosanna to order one.
I'd recommend the Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000.
The European Event box will actually have the Creative Live! Cam Optia
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 01:18 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
[snip]
Taking too much time to decide: it sometimes happen that we wait for a
meeting or for another event to take a decision, while the decision is
pretty trivial. It might be related to my first item, since pinging
people so they say
On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 08:30 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote:
On Nov 19, 2007 8:22 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't the members get the opportunity to propose questions this year, as
in past years? Usually there is a gnomedesktop story comments.
I've been posted to
On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 20:07 +0200, Baris Cicek wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 08:30 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote:
I think the members can propose questions and send them to the
Membership Committee select the best questions. Can the others members
of MC say something about this?
That's
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 08:12 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote:
On Nov 14, 2007 2:53 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is a legitimate approach, and it can be helpful as you say.
However, those precise words are subject to the reading, not intended,
which Sergey saw in them.
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 22:38 -0400, Germán Poó Caamaño wrote:
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 18:02 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
[snip]
What I mean is that once you are syndicated in Planet, you can post
whatever you want.
That's why we have people posting all sorts of things that are not
someone so that
requests for new accounts, mailing lists, bugzilla products, etc, get
done almost immediately.
It simple stuff, but that's why it's important. It could make a
noticeable everyday difference to how we grow and work together.
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On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 15:43 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 12:05:59PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
Meanwhile, our sysadmins seem overworked, causing understandable delays
for simple requests. Now seems like a good time to pay someone so that
requests for new accounts
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 19:29 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi Murray,
Selon Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Meanwhile, our sysadmins seem overworked, causing understandable delays
for simple requests. Now seems like a good time to pay someone so that
requests for new accounts, mailing
it, with the advisory and board lists in it.
You might also want to arrange an extra conference call with the
advisory board if that's more to their liking. But that will probably
take 2 or 3 months to arrange.
I'm disappointed that this has been turned into a discussion about
discussing.
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. Particularly if the higher travel costs can be offset by reduced
accommodation costs. LCA manages it in Australia despite the costs.
I'd love it.
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is.
Or if we think we only want people who understand hack then let's at
least make that more obvious so that this stands out next to the poster
about the anthropology text book swap meet.
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On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 20:49 +, Andrew Sobala wrote:
[snip]
So let's link to it from www.gnome.org, and we're finished with this. Am
I right?
The signatures drive
http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct/Signatures
was quite successful, so I plan to go ahead with this.
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no enforcement. To me that already seems more explicit that our
common sense should need, but it does no harm. But there certainly isn't
any need to add and we really mean it, and then really we do.
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representatives deciding it, because that's what
they are for.
But yes, I'll try the endorsement strategy if I have to.
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On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 19:43 +0100, Danilo Šegan wrote:
Today at 18:44, Murray Cumming wrote:
But yes, I'll try the endorsement strategy if I have to.
I prefer Adrian Custer's suggestion.
Tell me where to sign! :)
Let's see how this works out:
http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct
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Cheers,
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On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 10:51 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 11:38 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
Sorry, I probably should have summarized the previous discussion.
The idea is to state what we consider acceptable behaviour, in order to
advertize to newcomers what they can
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complained about it) is that it's a cultural reference that isn't
fully understood by many eople whose first language is not English.
as a joke!
* don't be afraid to put more into it
* make sure to mention that it isn't a weapon
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[snip]
At some point, Murray proposed the CoC as a means of doing something
so that it doesn't look like we're doing nothing
[snip]
As well as not being an actual quote, I think that's quite a wild
conclusion and one that ignores the rest of this (repetitive) discussion.
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turns doing releases)
have to build all of GNOME repeatedly to check that it builds and runs.
The faster they can do that, the faster they can tell people to fix stuff.
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find that a bit arbitrary while unnecessarily
broadening its scope. It wouldn't bother me much though.
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On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 10:08 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
I'm fairly happy with the Code Of Conduct draft now:
http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct
So, now for some process. I'd like the Foundation Board to consider this
and, all being well, declare it as official.
I leave it up to the board
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to that critical mass we may need to help
the process along a bit. I think Callum said it well:
http://spooky-possum.org/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi/womenoss.html
The code of conduct doesn't try to address that directly, however. It's
just a small part of it.
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On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 20:15 +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
I thought the main deterrent was arrogant and dictator-like developers
who pat each other in the back and ignore the requests of users.
Adding more rules seems pointless there ;)
That's
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 10:49 -0400, Dan Winship wrote:
Murray Cumming wrote:
I wouldn't feel optimistic about a code of conduct that didn't represent
our current consensus.
...
However, there's no shortage of people saying both that
- Some improvement in behaviour is necessary
think? What else would you like to see there?
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than most though. I'd like to use this code of
conduct to advertise that we are better.
We haven't had any of it on any of the primary mailing lists since
crazy orb-boy that I can remember, and that was dealt with fairly
promptly.
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On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 23:16 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:47:40PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
Apparently, yes: This is one plausible explanation for our disastrous (1%)
female involvement and low asian involvement. That 1% is so scary that I
can't see how we can
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and questioned in terms of
interpetations way too often, while its purpose is only to remind and
suggest known good behaviour?
I think it's mostly used in the correct way. But it's normal for
beginners to take time to understand how best to use it.
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On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 20:35 +0300, Baris Cicek wrote:
On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 19:09 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 19:57 +0300, Baris Cicek wrote:
I wanted to put my 2 cents on this women involvement issue.
Actually women in proprietary software market have a good
women and asians out of the community.
Hence, why there was no mention of gender in my initial email. I
mentioned it in backup because it's one group of people who have
consistently said that it's a problem.
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without their involvement, and then don't plan time to
have the box sent back. Unfortunately, I don't think this will be much
more fun if we add customs delays.
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system like the sysadmins have, so sender receiver know that all
requests are stored somewhere. But I don't know if it's worth for the
amount of requests the board gets (do you receive many? or am I the only
spammer?) ;)
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and linking to it in such emails.
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already have a GNOME member logo, or that start of one.
There's also discussion in the wiki about (probably self-policing)
certification requirements, though I think it's unnecessarily
fine-grained.
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visitors to the site to write to politicians can have more effect.
OK. Who has a draft statement or web page?
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On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 17:07 -0400, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Leslie Proctor
I agree, since Tim's been the one who has been collect the advisory board
fees, finding new sponsors and board members, etc. The board has had
little to do with raising money to date.
In quite a few cases,
On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 18:49 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 01:12 -0400, Richard M. Stallman wrote:
If the board's role were limited to raising funds, who would
be responsible for important policy decisions?]
Depends what you mean by 'policy decisions' - but I'd certainly
to allow these. You
should request special permission from [EMAIL PROTECTED] for such a modified
trademark. I doubt that we'd approve anything other than an addition which
didn't change the original part of the trademark.
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On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 16:22 -0400, Tim Ney wrote:
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 22:14 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
I'd also like some (or even one) real beginner talks to sell GNOME to
complete newbies, telling people what GNOME is, what it looks/feels
like, and what it can do.
It would
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 18:58 +0200, David Neary wrote:
Hi,
Murray Cumming wrote:
Time for a wiki page then?
I'd be happier if someone would summaries this thread, including the bit
on foundation-list (why did that drop off the CC?), and perhaps we could
start with a provisional plan
already booked by IGC
may be enough for GUADEC's needs, particularly on the weekend days.
Let's try to avoid the massive costs that that could incur. Is there any
reason to believe that we need these extra rooms?
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many places at the Youth Hostel, and you
can sign up for that when registration is online (soon).
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