Re: GNOME Foundation Statement on ECMA TC45-M Participation

2007-11-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 01:22:00AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 02:02:49AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:44:52AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Don't cry about people who criticize the Foundation's unconditional support

Re: GNOME Foundation Meeting Minutes :: 10th October 2007

2007-11-21 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 04:50:32PM +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote: 7) New HDDs for buildbot machine The buildbot machine (build.gnome.org) had a very small HDD (32GB) and needed new ones. The board agreed on buying new HDDs for build.gnome.org as requested by Olav Vitters on October 8. Owen

Re: [Candidacy] Thomas Thurman

2007-11-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 12:07:27PM -0500, Thomas Thurman wrote: I did send this email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and foundation-list@gnome.org, but in a conversation a short while later I was convinced that I could best help the Foundation by not being on the BoD; I cancelled the foundation-list

Re: iCal Calendar for 2007 Board of Directors Election

2007-11-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:36:20PM -0300, Fernando San Martín Woerner wrote: I have uploaded this iCal file with the 2007 Board of Directors Election schedule. http://traza.googlecode.com/files/elections2007.ics Please put it on a GNOME site, see foundation-web module in svn.gnome.org. --

Re: OOXML [was Re: GNOME Foundation Board Meeting Minutes :: 7/6/07]

2007-10-31 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 04:17:05PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: The idea and board's decision was transcribed in board meeting minutes and sent to this least a few months ago. A mild discussion started and there was no strong opposition to the membership. I don't think just because a fool

Re: Creating new modules -- request for help

2007-09-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 04:42:03PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: Bringing it back to the present, there's stuff on svn.mugshot.org that really belongs on gnome.org, but it seems it didn't end up there. I don't think this was a conscious thing, but I think it probably was due to just enough of

Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)

2007-09-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:29:35AM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote: 2007/9/8, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 04:47:31PM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote: And this all is naturally from the developer/maintainer POV, as translators and documentors do not benefit from

Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)

2007-09-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 03:05:18PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 10:17 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: Hi, Olav, You are ignoring the central place. You need somewhere all GNOME devs are able to commit. This is what is so wrong about www.gnome.org/~foo/git

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 05:23:28PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 16:21 -0400, Claudio Saavedra wrote: That's the way things are handled ATM. With the exception that only Jeff is supposed to commit to the appropriate file (there's a README or HACKING somewhere

Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)

2007-09-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:35:55PM -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote: While I don't wish to sound trite, I do think almost everyone here knows what everyone else is going to say, and maybe trying to headstart the discussion is a bad move, and presumptuous, but allow me to throw out an idea. I

Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)

2007-09-08 Thread Olav Vitters
CVS) (D-)SCM evolve. Before GNOME is ready to switch a lot of development will have happened in the various tools. So if Git had Windows as a priority, I'd expect Windows to be solved soon enough. Another point for SVN is that everything seems to integrate with it. On 9/8/07, Olav Vitters [EMAIL

Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)

2007-09-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 04:47:31PM +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote: 2007/9/8, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 05:56:38AM -0400, Kevin Kubasik wrote: Let's summarize it as: I don't know any D-SCM :-) (only investigate by checking out docs) (but I am also not interested

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 11:57:19AM +0300, Zeeshan Ali wrote: About the svn access, all centralized VCS's are meant for dictatorships. If the gnome foundation really wants to improve the situation, i recommend moving to git or some other non-distributed VCS instead of brain-dead centralized

Re: Can we improve things?

2007-09-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:19:49PM +0200, Damien Sandras wrote: You probably know that I started contributing to GNOME in my spare time back in 2000. I have dedicated countless hours to my project, GnomeMeeting, now known as Ekiga. It means 7 years of development, exclusively done during

Re: p.g.o. policy

2007-08-20 Thread Olav Vitters
the component. Bugzilla is there to assist. It makes no sense to have components/products that the maintainer doesn't look at. This even if I think it would add transparency. --- Comment #1 from Olav Vitters 2007-08-20 21:37 UTC --- Jeff is also a GNOME sysadmin (see http

Re: Hiring a part-time sysadmin?

2007-06-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 12:05:59PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: Meanwhile, our sysadmins seem overworked, causing understandable delays for simple requests. Now seems like a good time to pay someone so that requests for new accounts, mailing lists, bugzilla products, etc, get done almost

Re: Mailing lists fixage

2007-06-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 05:45:56AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Olav Vitters Mailing list setup is broken. Hiring someone to figure it all out might be a good idea; because currently I do not setup mailing lists just because I do not want to figure out how. I studied the broken

Re: Code of conduct (bis)

2006-12-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 05:50:53PM +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 20:04 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 19:43 +0100, Danilo Šegan wrote: Today at 18:44, Murray Cumming wrote: But yes, I'll try the endorsement strategy if I have to. I

Re: Code of conduct (bis)

2006-12-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 07:27:27PM +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 18:53 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: I signed the code of conduct under the strict condition that there is no official enforcement of these principles, and that it should not be interpreted like a legal

Re: Candidacy: Joachim Noreiko

2006-11-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:57:09PM +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: radically changed since. Mailing lists are strange, alien places to people who don't come from hacker culture. The same goes for IRC. When you finally Small question: I saw one or two suggestions to force GNOME developers to not

Re: Research groups and the GNOME project

2006-11-13 Thread Olav Vitters
(Wanted to leave this to others, but oh well) On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 05:37:29PM +, Alan Horkan wrote: [..] I cannot really speak to your other requests but I'd say the only problem there will be finding administrators with the time and energy available to help you out. - Mirroring

Re: Research groups and the GNOME project

2006-11-13 Thread Olav Vitters
(made CC-list a bit smaller) On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 08:52:53PM +0200, Juha Siltala wrote: - Access to the Bugzilla database Bugzilla is public, and I've been able to get all the data I want. Just a warning to everyone reading this: Having public access does not mean it is ok to write

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 01:41:44AM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: Olav Vitters wrote: FWIW, I did see 2 requests to rename 'Linux' on bugzilla.gnome.org to GNU/Linux. My official position is 'people use that field?!?' (except crazy GIMP developers; which is the only reason you can still see

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 12:53:56AM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: Shaun McCance wrote: For those curious, many of this was discussed in the thread on gnome-doc-list, starting here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2006-July/msg00200.html That's right; I gave a link to the

Re: Substituting Linux with GNU/Linux or GNU

2006-08-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:19:04PM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: This is a request to the the GNOME Foundation Board for action/decision regarding this matter. There are some strings in some GNOME programs and very few in the GNOME documentaion that refer to the operating system as Linux. We

Re: A matter of intent [Was: Re: Code of Conduct final draft?]

2006-08-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:07:14PM -0400, Dominic Lachowicz wrote: You have said that the CoC isn't and wasn't 'rules' and claimed to have added this point to the Wiki page on June 2nd.[1] I don't think that your June 2nd change [2] actually says that this isn't and wasn't rules, and what you

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