Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-04 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 12:08 -0400, john palmieri wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org wrote: [...] I was on that board and I can back up Behdad's statement here. The change in wording from 1 year to a range between 1 and 2 years has already been done

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Robert Nordan
I have to say, making changes available as a diff and a rst source file and then forgetting to link them in the official announcement mail, leaving the membership to parse it in order to understand what the changes are is not the most world-class democratic enablement I've seen. However, there

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:16:46AM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Daniel Veillard veill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 03:07:46AM +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached.

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, On 10/01/2012 03:07 AM, Tobias Mueller wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. If you object these changes, please raise your voice until 2012-10-31. If 5% of the membership (20 members) object, we will have a vote. Otherwise, the changes

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 10:45 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, On 10/01/2012 03:07 AM, Tobias Mueller wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. If you object these changes, please raise your voice until 2012-10-31. If 5% of the membership

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hello, On 02.10.2012 09:05, Bastien Nocera wrote: Tobias, can you please re-send this with the proper context for foundation-announce? Yes. You are right, I missed out the context in the assumption that the threading would give it all. But I falsely (and subconsciously) assumed that everyone

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hello, On 01.10.2012 03:07, Tobias Mueller wrote: I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. [...] The context, in case you are not watching foundation-list too closely or were not at the AGM at GUADEC: It was suggested to make changes to the bylaws during the AGM at

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Emmanuel pacaud
Le lundi 01 octobre 2012 à 03:07 +0200, Tobias Mueller a écrit : I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. If you object these changes, please raise your voice until 2012-10-31. If 5% of the membership (20 members) object, we will have a vote. Otherwise, the changes

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-02 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 11:02:21AM +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote: Hello, On 02.10.2012 09:05, Bastien Nocera wrote: Tobias, can you please re-send this with the proper context for foundation-announce? Yes. You are right, I missed out the context in the assumption that the threading would

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-01 Thread Germán Póo-Caamaño
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 03:07 +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. If you object these changes, please raise your voice until 2012-10-31. If 5% of the membership (20 members) object, we will have a vote. Otherwise,

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel Veillard
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 03:07:46AM +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. Not saying what the change is, why you want it changed and providing some kind of diff is very very surprizing. It exactly sounds like you don't

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Leonard
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Jeff Schroeder jeffschroe...@computer.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tobias Mueller tobias...@gnome.org wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. If you object these changes, please raise your voice

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Leonard
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Jeff Schroeder jeffschroe...@computer.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tobias Mueller tobias...@gnome.org wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. If you object these changes, please raise your voice

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-01 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
I think Tobias's message missed out some context, so I'll try to fill in from what I've been hearing as a foundation member. Note that I'm not on the board right now and have not been for over two years, and this is my personal understanding of the situation. So, I *think* Tobias is not

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Leonard
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Daniel Veillard veill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 03:07:46AM +0200, Tobias Mueller wrote: Dear Foundation, I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached. Not saying what the change is, why you want it changed and

Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

2012-10-01 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 10/02/2012 01:16 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: Posting and announcing a diff on bugzilla, waiting about two weeks for comment (only a few on the ticket), then asking to move forward. I am not sure I see the procedural issue, what specifically should have been done differently? I'm new here, so