David Neary wrote:
Hi,
Sorry to bust in late, and I kinda got tired before reaching the end of
the thread so this might have been raised already.
Maybe this discussion would be better started with asking ourselves a
couple of questions:
* What kind of conferences are we interested in?
* Who
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:06:21PM +0100, Bill Haneman wrote:
Quim Gil wrote:
The only conflict I see is the E of European.
Tilt it on its side and it's fine, W for world.
I don't know if this (very simple idea) has been proposed before, but
the E could easily be removed by changing the
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 22:13 +0200, David Neary wrote:
I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many
reasons to do this, here are 5:
1. There is no link to GNOME in the name, or to being a conference
2. No-one knows what it means, which means the first question people
On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 09:58 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 22:13 +0200, David Neary wrote:
I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many
reasons to do this, here are 5:
1. There is no link to GNOME in the name, or to being a conference
2. No-one
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 01:14 -0400, Jonathan Blandford wrote:
We've proposed:
Gnome Users And Developers _Everywhere_ Conference
In the past to avoid this issue.
Thanks,
-Jonathan
We should probably just declare that the acronym has no meaning, such as
SAT, which no longer has an
On Tuesday at 18:23, Žygimantas Beručka wrote:
...and the phrase of Glynn I always remember: Some people write 'Gnome'
instead of 'GNOME'. It's a matter of preference, but if you do, you're
wrong ;)... :)
Were there really 101 (one hundred and one) things to know about
Gnome? Not more, not
Yesterday at 22:13, David Neary wrote:
I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many
reasons to do this, here are 5:
Another, actually most important reason:
— 3rd was GUAD3C
— 4th was GU4DEC
— 5th was GVADEC
— 6th was 6UADEC
And what would 7th be?
I suggest something
On Tue, September 6, 2005 08:36, Danilo Å egan wrote:
If we were KDE, I'd vote for replacing aKademy with Konference so,
it should be Gnomference for us ;-)
I like it: it sounds like GNOME France ;-)
To answer Dave: I like GUADEC (more than GConf, to be honest). But look
at various other
Hi,
Vincent Untz a écrit :
To answer Dave: I like GUADEC (more than GConf, to be honest). But look
at various other conferences: is their name easily understandable?
I don't think it's more understandable than GUADEC, but once you know
what it means, you remember it.
OSCon
DefCon
Linux Expo
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 11:47 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Vincent Untz a écrit :
We could keep GUADEC and when advertising it, have a note about it's
meaning. For example, on posters, you would write a big GUADEC and add
a subtitle. The logo is important too. I mean, when people see
Hi,
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 13:07 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Yeah :)
The call of papers is useless any earlier than December or January,
because most people aren't thinking about May or June until then anyway.
The website doesn't need to be done until then either.
We do need to start
? People
who know GNOME? People who don't know GNOME? If they don't know GNOME,
GnomeCon/GConf is not clearer than GUADEC. If they know GNOME, there
are some chances they will learn about GUADEC being a GNOME thing, aren't
they?
Changing the name because GUADEC is not clear enough when it's written
Hi,
Vincent Untz a écrit :
Let's try another question: who are the new people we want to see? People
who know GNOME? People who don't know GNOME? If they don't know GNOME,
GnomeCon/GConf is not clearer than GUADEC. If they know GNOME, there
are some chances they will learn about GUADEC being a
Hi,
Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller a écrit :
So the solution is that we dump the name that a lot of people in the free software world
knows by now and instead switch to a new name...
Building up name recognition and brand takes a lot of time.
Let's kill this excuse dead straight away.
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:08:04PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
There is no name recognition. GUADEC has no brand value. Changing it
will help sponsorship, not hurt it. No-one outside the geek community
likes the meaningless acronym tho,ng. It's *so* 1990s, already.
So let's change GNOME
Quim Gil wrote:
The only conflict I see is the E of European.
Tilt it on its side and it's fine, W for world.
I like GUADEC too, I think we risk losing some recognition/mindshare by
changing. And once you hear the name, you never forget it.
Bill
I would solve the
conflict by
Hello,
I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many
reasons to do this, here are 5:
Brilliant idea.
Its one of the worst names marketing wise, it means nothing to people.
I would try to go for simple Gnome Conference or maybe Gnome Conf.
I think that GConf is just
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 10:03 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
I would try to go for simple Gnome Conference or maybe Gnome Conf.
I think that GConf is just being too cute.
Agreed GConf isn't a good idea any more than OAF or BONOBO would be.
A name change of a conference usually is done for one of
An, 2005 09 06 14:04 +0200, Dave Neary rašė:
The main idea to change the name is because it's yet another meaningless
acronym which sucks. It's not a good name. The only reason to keep it is
because we've been using it for 6 years.
Every other word out there sucks if one doesn't know its
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 17:53 +0300, Žygimantas Beručka wrote:
Every other word out there sucks if one doesn't know its meaning,
whether it's Linux, Windows, Aqua, KDE or IBM itself. Try to convince
IBM to change its name into something similar to IntBussMach (the case
with fooConf). They don't
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, David Neary wrote:
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:13:25 +0200
From: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Foundation-List foundation-list@gnome.org
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Subject: Changing the name of GUADEC
I would like to propose changing the name
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005, David Neary wrote:
Davyd Madeley came up with GConf.
This isn't an improve and not enough of an improvement to merit the
change. If you had said Gnome Con which should need no further
explanation I might have been able to take
An, 2005 09 06 09:57 -0600, Elijah Newren rašė:
I like GConf for that reason, and because it's got Conf in it, and it's
a better abbreviation for 'the GNOME Conference' than GNOMECon or
GNOME-Con(which has too many capitals) and GnomeCon violates the
religious doctrine on GNOME
Žygimantas Beručka wrote:
An, 2005 09 06 14:06 +0100, Bill Haneman rašė:
The only conflict I see is the E of European.
Tilt it on its side and it's fine, W for world.
Oh, this is a real gem. Could anyone comment on this? This touches the
*real* reason (4. Do we really want
Pr, 2005 09 05 22:13 +0200, David Neary rašė:
1. There is no link to GNOME in the name, or to being a conference
It is. As we all know, G in 'GUADEC' stands for GNOME, and C is for
conference.
2. No-one knows what it means, which means the first question people ask
isn't when is it? or
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 16:31 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
Davyd Madeley came up with GConf.
This isn't an improve and not enough of an improvement to merit the
change. If you had said Gnome Con which should need no further
explanation I might have been able to take your comment seriously
but
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 02:20 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
GConf.
I suggested the name quoted here while speaking tongue in cheek.
How about gcc, the GNOME Community Conference?
timm
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On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:12 -0400, Tim Ney wrote:
How about gcc, the GNOME Community Conference?
I like GNOME Unified Architecture Discussion and Engagement Conference
You know, for the kids.
Robert Love
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On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:23 -0400, Robert Love wrote:
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 15:12 -0400, Tim Ney wrote:
How about gcc, the GNOME Community Conference?
I like GNOME Unified Architecture Discussion and Engagement Conference
You
On 9/6/05, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
General Upgraded Android Designed for Efficient Calculation.
Grandiose Ubiquitous Acronyms Designed to Eradicate Conflict
...or maybe at least the flamewars, though there might be a bug in
their current implementation. ;-)
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 13:46 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
On 9/6/05, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
General Upgraded Android Designed for Efficient Calculation.
Grandiose Ubiquitous Acronyms Designed to Eradicate Conflict
You are all--all of you are--killing my joke.
The joke was not
I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many
reasons to do this, here are 5:
1. There is no link to GNOME in the name, or to being a conference
2. No-one knows what it means, which means the first question people ask
isn't when is it? or where is it? or who's going
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 22:13 +0200, David Neary wrote:
I would like to propose changing the name of GUADEC. There are many
reasons to do this, here are 5:
1. There is no link to GNOME in the name, or to being a conference
GUADEC = GNOME Users and Developers European Conference
It seems
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