Re: Current state of Foundation finances, upgrade internal systems and controls...

2014-04-16 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 16 April 2014 11:19, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 04/16/2014 05:23 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote: The more important something is, the more important it is that we have good Free software to meet our needs. I agree. If there are problems with GnuCash and it's the most suitable

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-15 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 13 April 2014 17:11, Stormy Peters stormy.pet...@gmail.com wrote: Is the budget and the current state of financials (account balances, invoices due, money expected) public? If not, can we get at least a summary? Hi Stormy, here's the link to the financial summary for 2013, with earlier years

Re: Current state of Foundation finances, upgrade internal systems and controls...

2014-04-15 Thread Alxndr G.S.
This is a rather random post but it was sufficiently important for me to point out. When I read the following FAQ linked below I took some time to digest what was really happening. You lost track of your accounting, that's all. You don't have systems in place that allow a small staff to properly

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 01:45:15AM +0200, Mathieu Duponchelle wrote: I'll play devil's advocate here: Hi Mathieu, I'll start by saying that playing devil's advocate isn't really likely to be a helpful way to contribute to this discussion. The board should consider the opinions that the GNOME

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Allan Day
Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: ... GNOME exists because people contribute to it. OPW has demonstrated a strong track record of creating long-term contributors. The mere existence of OPW has caused people who might otherwise not be enthusiastic about contributing to GNOME to

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Kat, Has any thought been Hi en to charging an administrative handling fee for Women's Outreach? Clearly it is taking a lot of time to administer, it does not seem fair that the GNOME Foundation shoulder all of the financial burden of managing it. Cheers, Dave. On Apr 12, 2014 1:32 AM,

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:32:12AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: The board expects that you may have some questions or would like to know more details about the problem, please read https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQ and contact the board at board-l...@gnome.org if

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Allan Day
Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:32:12AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: The board expects that you may have some questions or would like to know more details about the problem, please read https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQ and contact

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 14 April 2014 10:02, Dave Neary nea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kat, Has any thought been Hi en to charging an administrative handling fee for Women's Outreach? Clearly it is taking a lot of time to administer, it does not seem fair that the GNOME Foundation shoulder all of the financial burden

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 14 April 2014 05:19, Jim Campbell jcampb...@gnome.org wrote: Hi All, On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2014 05:29, Sindhu S sind...@live.in wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread David King
On 2014-04-13 02:20, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On 2014-04-13 01:43, Stormy Peters wrote: Don't we have reserves though? We should have 6 months of operating expenses as reserves. I should leave maybe this to Kat and other board members but I'm recently enough gone that I can answer

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Allan Day
David King amigad...@amigadave.com wrote: ... Don't we have reserves though? We should have 6 months of operating expenses as reserves. I should leave maybe this to Kat and other board members but I'm recently enough gone that I can answer - the Foundation has adequate reserves for GNOME's

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Alberto Ruiz
So, the FAQ has a call for donations, however I can't find how to donate anywhere, the closest thing I can find is making a PayPal donation to GIMP :-) 2014-04-13 15:40 GMT+02:00 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com: David King amigad...@amigadave.com wrote: ... Don't we have reserves though? We

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
Hi Alberto, On 13 April 2014 16:31, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: So, the FAQ has a call for donations, however I can't find how to donate anywhere, the closest thing I can find is making a PayPal donation to GIMP :-) There's a link from https://www.gnome.org to

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi Alberto; you can donate to the GNOME Foundation through the Friends of GNOME program: https://www.gnome.org/friends/ which is also linked directly and prominently from the www.gnome.org landing page. ;-) ciao, Emmanuele. On 13 April 2014 16:31, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: So,

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Right! Thanks Emmanuele, We need to work out on the goolge juice so that how to donate to gnome foundation shows something useful in a search engine :-) 2014-04-13 17:40 GMT+02:00 Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com: hi Alberto; you can donate to the GNOME Foundation through the Friends of

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Stormy Peters
Is the budget and the current state of financials (account balances, invoices due, money expected) public? If not, can we get at least a summary? Are we paying our employee during this freeze? Is it expected that we would be able to employ an executive director if we want to? Thanks to the board

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Germán Poo-Caamaño
On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 19:44 -0500, meg ford wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Germán Poo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote: I'll play devil's advocate here: Couldn't GNOME use funds from these various sponsors to fund activities more directly beneficial to its future than OPW? I

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread meg ford
Hi Germán , I apologize for the bad paste. I was replying to Mathieu Duponchelle but the paste was from an email in which you quoted his previous email. Cheers, Meg On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Germán Poo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 19:44 -0500, meg ford wrote:

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Mathieu Duponchelle
Yep, they were mine. Hijacking the thread to ask you which channels you're hanging in Meg, have tried #gnome-music once or twice but you were not around, I've started some work on a waveformer object, I guess you'll be interested :) On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:06 AM, meg ford meg...@gmail.com

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread Jim Campbell
Hi All, On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 April 2014 05:29, Sindhu S sind...@live.in wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: The board expects that you may have some questions or

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-13 Thread meg ford
I have also have a question: can the Board please explain why they were not aware of this situation until now, and how they became aware of it? This seems like a lot of money and I would like to know how it is that no one noticed the shortfall until we got to this point. It seems like this

Reimbursement ticket system [was: Re: Current state of Foundation finances]

2014-04-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 09:59 +0530, Sindhu S wrote: [...] Could this be resolved by putting in place web application that one can login to with their e-mail address and the details would of reimbursement associated with that person could be pooled in there? This web application should also be

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-12 Thread Karen Sandler
On 2014-04-12 14:45, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: No, it wasn't know. If it had been known, spending would have been frozen by then and a budget for the hackfest would not have been approved. For perspective, people actually call this a success crisis. Thank you so much to the board and

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-12 Thread Stormy Peters
Don't we have reserves though? We should have 6 months of operating expenses as reserves. On Apr 12, 2014 5:26 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On 2014-04-12 14:45, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: No, it wasn't know. If it had been known, spending would have been frozen by then and a

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-12 Thread Karen Sandler
On 2014-04-13 01:43, Stormy Peters wrote: Don't we have reserves though? We should have 6 months of operating expenses as reserves. I should leave maybe this to Kat and other board members but I'm recently enough gone that I can answer - the Foundation has adequate reserves for GNOME's

Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-11 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
Dear Foundation members, Due to a shortfall in the budget, the Foundation board voted on 2014-04-08 to freeze all expenditure which is not essential to the running of the Foundation. This freeze affects sponsorship expenses which are unpaid at this time, but it does not affect the funds which we

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-11 Thread Mathieu Duponchelle
I'll play devil's advocate here: Couldn't GNOME use funds from these various sponsors to fund activities more directly beneficial to its future than OPW? I'll leave the question of what these other activities might be to the engagement core team, who discuss that at length and will certainly

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-11 Thread Germán Poo-Caamaño
On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 01:45 +0200, Mathieu Duponchelle wrote: I'll play devil's advocate here: Couldn't GNOME use funds from these various sponsors to fund activities more directly beneficial to its future than OPW? No, for two reasons: 1. My understanding after reading the FAQ is that

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-11 Thread Mathieu Duponchelle
Thanks for the answer. I think the question deserves being asked, I'd be interested in other opinions, as well as hopefully facts about sponsors' involvement (of particular interest would be the question to know if they see sponsoring OPW as just a way to help GNOME at large or if they do have a

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-11 Thread meg ford
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Germán Poo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote: I'll play devil's advocate here: Couldn't GNOME use funds from these various sponsors to fund activities more directly beneficial to its future than OPW? I think a better approach might be: how can we motivate

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-11 Thread Mathieu Duponchelle
I'm not sure this is a direct answer to the question I was asking, but yes it is clear that finding more funding would be beneficial in the absolute, I have absolutely no clue regarding that though :) On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 2:44 AM, meg ford meg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-11 Thread Sindhu S
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ekaterina Gerasimova kittykat3...@gmail.com wrote: The board expects that you may have some questions or would like to know more details about the problem, please read https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQ and contact the board at