Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-13 Thread Quim Gil
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:43 AM, john palmierijohn.j5.palmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Quim Gil quim...@gmail.com wrote: So I guess there is no way back. Speaking clearly, I wonder what weight in people's opinions (in the polls and the board meembers) had the Qt

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-13 Thread Stormy Peters
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Quim Gil quim...@gmail.com wrote: conference in one go. Also why the Linux Foundation (Gold in GUADEC 2008) didn't come back in the Summit? Was this a consequence of the co-location or would have happened anyway with the Global Crisis? And Intel, and ARM...?

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 10:36 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: [CUT] You can see that in all configurations the majority want to co-locate next year. Even if it means not having a profit. Can you elaborate why the

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread sankarshan
[taking foundation-announce out of the cc: fields] On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Srinivasa Ragavansraga...@gnome.org wrote: [snippet]  The main, and most important, reason for not wanting to co-locate next year is because the GNOME  community needs to focus on GNOME 3.0, and next year's

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 17:05 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: It was a hard decision because, there is real interest in making KDE and GNOME work well together. While this is also an important goal, but we don't need

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 08/12/2009 09:22 AM, Philip Van Hoof wrote: Maybe if the foundation's board would more clearly articulate why exactly we can't do a co-located event*next* year, they'll convince the community about their decision? Why didn't they? My personal view as a board member: Individual board

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread Og Maciel
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Quim Gilquim...@gmail.com wrote: Actually many GNOME people that was not enthusiastic about a second joint summit mentioned that one of the problems was that the agenda didn't help meeting peers with similar interests from the other side. Something that could

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 08/12/2009 04:08 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Speaking clearly, I wonder what weight in people's opinions (in the polls and the board meembers) had the Qt branding in badge, towel, roll-up ad in the main entrance, etc. Many GNOME people said they didn't felt 'at home' in such context. But that is

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread john palmieri
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Quim Gil quim...@gmail.com wrote: So I guess there is no way back. Speaking clearly, I wonder what weight in people's opinions (in the polls and the board meembers) had the Qt branding in badge, towel, roll-up ad in the main entrance, etc. Many GNOME people

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-12 Thread sankarshan
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM, john palmierijohn.j5.palmi...@gmail.com wrote: [snipping out parts of an well thought out response] To sum it all up - fools rush in.  We really need to take a step back and really try to understand what we wish to accomplish in another co-located event given

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-11 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: Majority wants to co-locate next year * 55% collaborated with a KDE /GNOME person, 29% did not You can see that in all configurations the majority want to co-locate next year. Even if it means not having a profit.

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-07 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:09 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: Here are the survey results with a summary I did initially. Note that this was a survey, not a vote. Sure, But if a majority of the responders in all configurations picked that they want to co-locate next year, even if it means no

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-07 Thread Og Maciel
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: You can see that in all configurations the majority want to co-locate next year. Even if it means not having a profit. Can you elaborate why the board didn't first discuss this decision with the community? I was also

Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-06 Thread Vincent Untz
This year's Gran Canaria Desktop Summit represented the first time the GNOME and KDE communities have co-located their annual conferences in the same location. 852 free software advocates from 46 countries gathered together last week to discuss and enhance the free desktop experience at the first

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-06 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 17:10 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: The cooperation and conversations that began between the KDE and GNOME communities will continue into the future and in events like hackfests throughout the year, but next year the conferences will be hosted separately. Apologizes for

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-06 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: Apologizes for asking. When was the community consulted about this decision? There was a survey request on the foundation list about the opinion from the members.

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-06 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 21:06 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: Apologizes for asking. When was the community consulted about this decision? There was a survey request on the foundation list about the opinion from the

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-06 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 21:06 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Philip Van Hoofpvanh...@gnome.org wrote: Apologizes for asking. When was the community consulted about this decision? There

Re: Free Desktop Communities come together at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit

2009-08-06 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:09 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: Of the GNOME people who collaborated with a KDE person: * 78% said it went well, 7% said it didn't * 67% said we should co-locate next year, 29% said no * 28% said we should co-locate in the future but not next year, 25% said no * 53%