Hey,
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:40:16PM +0200, Andres G. Aragoneses wrote:
> On 16/09/14 17:48, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> >On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> >>So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things,
> >>rather than having these 15 students
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Lefty wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
>
>> It seems to me that this thread has turn into a series of counter arguments
>> with no specific direction.
>>
>> Before we go ahead, can we please clarify:
>> a) What problem are we trying to so
On 16/09/14 17:48, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things,
rather than having these 15 students, plus 10 others working on less
important things?
Nope! But maybe with a better sel
On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 15:48 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
> Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> >> The Elementary project claim to have had a lot of success with
> >> Bountysource [1].
> >
> > Earlier in this thread, they suggested that their bounties are mostly
> > going out to regular Elementary developers who
Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>> The Elementary project claim to have had a lot of success with
>> Bountysource [1].
>
> Earlier in this thread, they suggested that their bounties are mostly
> going out to regular Elementary developers who would have worked on
> something else for Elementary anyway, in
On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 11:56 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
> The Elementary project claim to have had a lot of success with
> Bountysource [1].
Earlier in this thread, they suggested that their bounties are mostly
going out to regular Elementary developers who would have worked on
something else for Elem
Luis Villa wrote:
...
>> Luis
>> worried that making the TODO list the Bountie list was
>> dangerous, because people might end up doing only the things
>> people pay for. Have we already started down this slop already
>> with company involvement?
...
> With
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 08:43:29AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Most of the GSoC projects we get proposals for are ideas which were
> > suggested by mentors/members of the GNOME projects on
> > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreach/SummerOfCode/2014/Ideas
> > Students are also encouraged to come u
On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> It seems to me that this thread has turn into a series of counter arguments
> with no specific direction.
>
> Before we go ahead, can we please clarify:
> a) What problem are we trying to solve.
My impression, increasingly, is that the “proble
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:15:42PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> In the past you mentioned that you think we should fund any
> GNOME-related project. I disagree. I'm not sure if it would be
> beneficial to mention specific projects, but to be blunt, I think some
> of our GSoC projects were a wa
Hey Michael,
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:15:42PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> It would also be good to actually consider the value of student projects
> before funding them. With GSoC we just picked which students seemed most
> likely to successfully complete the projects they proposed, rather
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 02:32:59PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> But it seems logical to me that, for example, the Linux Foundation
> pays only for the OPWs related to Linux.
Why do you say that? There are lots of companies that sponsor OPW
kernel interns other than the Linux Foundation, a
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Germán Poo-Caamaño wrote:
> Luis
> worried that making the TODO list the Bountie list was
> dangerous, because people might end up doing only the things
> people pay for. Have we already started down this slop already
> with
[Resending in full, as in my previous I accidentally pressed the Send button by
mistake]
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 15:43 -0500, meg ford wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Tristan Van Berkom <
> tris...@upstairslabs.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think perhaps, if we organized bounties which clearly and
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 15:43 -0500, meg ford wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Tristan Van Berkom <
> tris...@upstairslabs.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think perhaps, if we organized bounties which clearly and definitely
> > improve software that industry is going to use, and not only for the
> > s
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Tristan Van Berkom <
tris...@upstairslabs.com> wrote:
>
> I think perhaps, if we organized bounties which clearly and definitely
> improve software that industry is going to use, and not only for the
> singular purpose of the GNOME Desktop Environment, then per
Changing topic as this thread has branched in many directions (as others
later in this thread pointed out).
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 15:16 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 13:58 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote
On 09/17/2014 01:58 PM, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
The approach to budgeting is similar in that the Foundation and Google
both have a budget, but our budgets are quite different. Any spending
in any area means that that money can
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> hi;
>
> On 16 September 2014 14:22, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
>
>> Philip said for example:
>
> Philip has scarcely any idea about any of this stuff, as he already
> demonstrated plenty of times, couple with an overinflated sense of his
> im
On Sep 17, 2014 9:17 AM, "Bastien Nocera" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 13:58 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
> > > The approach to budgeting is similar in that the Foundation and Google
> > > both have a budget, but our b
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 13:58 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
> > The approach to budgeting is similar in that the Foundation and Google
> > both have a budget, but our budgets are quite different. Any spending
> > in any area mea
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
> The approach to budgeting is similar in that the Foundation and Google
> both have a budget, but our budgets are quite different. Any spending
> in any area means that that money cannot be spent in another area.
What if the Fo
On 16/09/2014, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> Thank you very much for your answer, Kat.
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:12:15PM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
>> interns attending events in 2014 were sponsored within allocated
>> travel budgets out of general funds or by sponsors for that event.
>
>
Thank you very much for your answer, Kat.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:12:15PM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
> interns attending events in 2014 were sponsored within allocated
> travel budgets out of general funds or by sponsors for that event.
For the budget allocated for travel, would it be
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:27:43PM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
> I have proposed to the board that a financial report should be
> published every month as that will enable the membership to be better
> informed. I am already presenting a financial report to the board on a
> monthly basis, so
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
> Page 12 in the 2013 annual report
> (http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GNOME-Annual-Report-2013.pdf)
> has financial information for 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013. Is this not
> what you're looking for?
No, it's not. Please scrol
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:16:26PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> it's also very much C-centered, whereas we want more people to use C
> only for core library components.
A good practice for writing an application is to write the backend as an
internal library, so it can easily be used later by o
On 16 September 2014 16:12, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio
>> wrote:
>>> I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented) way
>>> for people raising their questions wrt
On 16 September 2014 11:33, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 09:07:18PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
>> But we should stop guessing or making assumption now and wait for
>> someone from the travel committee or with the relevant knowledge about
>> that budget to confirm what is d
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:28 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:07 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> > I'm sure you're confusing me with somebody else. I don't live in the
> > US, I only work for a US company. I live in the UK.
>
> Whoops; I was thinking that Endless is based
hi Pascal;
On 16 September 2014 17:50, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> On 16 September 2014 17:44, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>> hi Alexandre;
>>
>> On 16 September 2014 17:22, Alexandre Franke
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre
On 16 September 2014 17:44, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> hi Alexandre;
>
> On 16 September 2014 17:22, Alexandre Franke
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>>> On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke
>>> wrote:
http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ is
hi Alexandre;
On 16 September 2014 17:22, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>> On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ is a bit outdated, but it exists.
>>
>> minor correction: it's not
On 09/16/2014 12:22 PM, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>> On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ is a bit outdated, but it exists.
>>
>> minor correction: it's not really outdated. th
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke
> wrote:
>> http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ is a bit outdated, but it exists.
>
> minor correction: it's not really outdated. the foundation publishes
> the reports for the previous fi
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 04:12:53PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> > http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ is a bit outdated, but it exists.
>
> minor correction: it's not really outdated. the foundation publishes
> the reports for the previous fiscal year, as it's required by law.
>
> answeri
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 05:07:56PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> It would be harder to travel when they have to attend school.
Attending classes? What? :-) I'm sure the students can find an
arrangment to go to a software conference during the semester.
__
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things,
> rather than having these 15 students, plus 10 others working on less
> important things?
Nope! But maybe with a better selection process we could instead end up
wit
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:07 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> I'm sure you're confusing me with somebody else. I don't live in the
> US, I only work for a US company. I live in the UK.
Whoops; I was thinking that Endless is based in San Francisco.
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On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 14:31 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> But it's not the pre-tax salary.
> It also includes a lot of things to be paid by the employer
> http://www.accountingcoach.com/payroll-accounting/explanation/4
OK, I missed unemployment tax, which is significant, and slightly
underestimate
On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio
> wrote:
>> I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented) way
>> for people raising their questions wrt how the GNOME Foundation's money is
>> spent.
>> I *do* under
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented) way
> for people raising their questions wrt how the GNOME Foundation's money is
> spent.
> I *do* understand it's keep private for security reasons and, just to be
>
It seems to me that this thread has turn into a series of counter arguments
with no specific direction.
Before we go ahead, can we please clarify:
a) What problem are we trying to solve.
and b) How is that problem a bigger problem that the one's we are solving
and whether that's a problem the foun
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> Alexandre pointed out that GUADEC is at the right time. But not every
> OPW rounds are during the summer! So some OPW interns go to GUADEC
> several months later than the round. So why not doing the same also for
> GSoC and all OPW rounds
hi Michael;
On 16 September 2014 15:54, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 13:18 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>> that's not really a competitive salary for an experience developer,
>> since we're talking about improving the developer experience of the
>> platform. it may be barely
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 13:23 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> IF the Gnome Foundation spends money for GUADEC attendance sponsorship
> for GSoC and OPW students, an easy way to reduce significantly the
> costs
> is to sponsor the students for going to the nearest Gnome conference:
> GUADEC, Gnome As
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 13:18 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> that's not really a competitive salary for an experience developer,
> since we're talking about improving the developer experience of the
> platform. it may be barely enough for a part time developer, like it's
> barely enough for a part t
hi;
On 16 September 2014 14:22, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 01:27:47PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>> On 16 September 2014 12:01, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
>> > I know that with a good documentation (i.e. a book) and good development
>> > tools, developers will be more attr
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 15:22 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> - Writing a book, another actionable item.
My school told me to buy a Qt textbook when I was a freshman, even
though the class didn't involve Qt and we have zero Qt-related classes.
Simply having the book increased Qt's exposure. What if
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 07:50:50AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 14:01 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > Having 40k USD doesn't mean you get to spend that all on a developer.
> > At least in Europe there is a huge amount of overhead (factor of
> > 2.0-2.5 IIRC for .nl).
>
>
On 16 September 2014 13:50, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 14:01 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> Having 40k USD doesn't mean you get to spend that all on a developer.
>> At
>> least in Europe there is a huge amount of overhead (factor of 2.0-2.5
>> IIRC for .nl).
>
> It's a reasona
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 01:27:47PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On 16 September 2014 12:01, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> > I know that with a good documentation (i.e. a book) and good development
> > tools, developers will be more attracted by the Gnome platform.
>
> that's not nearly enough.
It
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 14:01 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> Having 40k USD doesn't mean you get to spend that all on a developer.
> At
> least in Europe there is a huge amount of overhead (factor of 2.0-2.5
> IIRC for .nl).
It's a reasonable pre-tax salary for an American. :) (We almost always
think
hi Sébastien;
On 16 September 2014 12:01, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 04:41:13PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>> I honestly don't think either you or Philip are aware of how outreach
>> works in the context of free software.
>
> I know that with a good documentation (i.e. a
hi Michael;
On 15 September 2014 00:45, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:41 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
>> we
>> raised 40 thousand dollars on a part time system administrator, and
>> that's a fraction of the cost of a full time developer.
>
> $40,000 is a reasonable salary f
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 06:45:47PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:41 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> > we
> > raised 40 thousand dollars on a part time system administrator, and
> > that's a fraction of the cost of a full time developer.
>
> $40,000 is a reasonable sala
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 01:17:04PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> > > I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented)
> > way
> > > for people r
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> Also, people really interested in find a way to save GNOME Foundation's
> money (as Sébastien seems to be), could approach the Board with concrete
> suggestions based on real data, not only on based on "guessing".
It's not only "b
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> > I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented)
> way
> > for people raising their questions wrt how the GNOME Foundation's money
> is
> > spent.
>
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 04:41:13PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> I honestly don't think either you or Philip are aware of how outreach
> works in the context of free software.
I know that with a good documentation (i.e. a book) and good development
tools, developers will be more attracted by the
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
> I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented) way
> for people raising their questions wrt how the GNOME Foundation's money is
> spent.
I prefer stuff out in the open. So nothing wrong with foundation-lis
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sébastien Wilmet
wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 09:07:18PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> > But we should stop guessing or making assumption now and wait for
> > someone from the travel committee or with the relevant knowledge about
> > that budget to confirm
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 09:07:18PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> But we should stop guessing or making assumption now and wait for
> someone from the travel committee or with the relevant knowledge about
> that budget to confirm what is done with this money.
We are still waiting for a response
On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 09:08 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> Hey Michael,
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:15:42PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > It would also be good to actually consider the value of student projects
> > before funding them. With GSoC we just picked which students seemed mo
Hi.
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:57:20PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> Like the Linux Foundation, the GNOME Foundation could hire one or more
> developers.
It has been mentioned already that this is not a valid analogy, but even it was,
I don't think this will happen in the (near) future.
I think
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 15:29 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> I have a question, please explain me how outreach is mutually
> exclusive with creating great software?
Well hold up, nobody has suggested that "outreach is mutually exclusive
with creating great software." Sebastien suggested that it may
On Sun, 2014-09-14 at 16:41 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> we
> raised 40 thousand dollars on a part time system administrator, and
> that's a fraction of the cost of a full time developer.
$40,000 is a reasonable salary for a full-time American developer, as
long as he's not located someplace wi
On 14 September 2014 16:34, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 03:29:35PM +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
>> I have a question, please explain me how outreach is mutually exclusive
>> with creating great software? The thing is that we can and we should do
>> both things, create great sof
hi Sébastien;
On 14 September 2014 13:07, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:54:14AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
>> Is there some specific objection you have with GNOME handling interns of
>> projects that are not specific to GNOME?
>
> That is another problem.
>
> What Philip Van Hoo
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 03:29:35PM +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> I have a question, please explain me how outreach is mutually exclusive
> with creating great software? The thing is that we can and we should do
> both things, create great software and make an effort to do contribution
> outreach. Be
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:07:46PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:54:14AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > Is there some specific objection you have with GNOME handling interns of
> > projects that are not specific to GNOME?
>
> That is another problem.
>
> What Philip Van H
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:57:20PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:07:45PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> > For the GNOME Foundation, or other similar organizations, it is
> > different in my opinion. It seems that the GNOME Foundation spends money
> > on outreach. It
Sebastien,
I have a question, please explain me how outreach is mutually exclusive
with creating great software? The thing is that we can and we should do
both things, create great software and make an effort to do contribution
outreach. Because we are a community project, and community projects c
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:07:45PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> For the GNOME Foundation, or other similar organizations, it is
> different in my opinion. It seems that the GNOME Foundation spends money
> on outreach. It *is* possible for the GNOME Foundation to decide to
> spend less money on
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:54:14AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> Is there some specific objection you have with GNOME handling interns of
> projects that are not specific to GNOME?
That is another problem.
What Philip Van Hoof said is that GNOME should focus less on outreach,
and more on software. If o
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:11:12PM -0400, Jeff Fortin wrote:
> > Moreover, if there is a need for a veteran developer to work on a
> > particular module/project, there is also the possibility of doing a
> > public fundraiser to get the ex
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> With ~30 GSoC GNOME students, the GNOME Foundation receives ~15.000$.
> And that every year. It is up to the GNOME Foundation to use this money
> wisely. If what you say is correct, do we all agree that spending this
> money for trave
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:11:12PM -0400, Jeff Fortin wrote:
> Moreover, if there is a need for a veteran developer to work on a
> particular module/project, there is also the possibility of doing a
> public fundraiser to get the exact amount of funds required (or more).
> The accessibility, privac
On Sat, 2014-09-13 at 08:54 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 05:44:49PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:22:50AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > The list of sponsors is very public, where have you looked that you have
> > > not seen it?
> >
> > Here: https:/
Additional thoughts on what I just said in my previous mail:
[...]
> In theory I don't see a reason why GNOME couldn't "store for many years"
> the GNOME project gsoc mentor 500$ stipends it receives, except that in
> practice they are too little and thus end up being used completely (I
> think).
Le samedi 13 septembre 2014 à 14:32 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> I know that money and OPW are sensitive topics, but I would like to
> better understand, and some transparency shouldn't hurt.
>
> For each GSoC student, the mentoring organization receives 500$. How is
> this mone
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 05:44:49PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:22:50AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > The list of sponsors is very public, where have you looked that you have
> > not seen it?
>
> Here: https://gnome.org/opw/#sponsors
>
> It is not explained which organi
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Sébastien Wilmet
wrote:
> It is not explained which organizations sponsor which projects. Do all
> organizations sponsor all OPW interns, regardless of the project (GNOME,
> Linux, Mozilla etc)?
>
When I was an OPW intern my project was sponsored by Mozilla.
On
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:22:50AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> The list of sponsors is very public, where have you looked that you have
> not seen it?
Here: https://gnome.org/opw/#sponsors
It is not explained which organizations sponsor which projects. Do all
organizations sponsor all OPW interns, re
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 02:32:59PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
> But it seems logical to me that, for example, the Linux Foundation
> pays only for the OPWs related to Linux.
Why do you say that? There are lots of companies that sponsor OPW
kernel interns other than the Linux Foundation, a
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