Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?

2019-08-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 01:06:05PM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > Sounds good to me. As the person who pushed engagement team to move > over, I'm fully behind moving everything to discourse! Was there a discussion about this at GUADEC? As it's been a while and nobody seems to object I think

Moving foundation-list to discourse?

2019-08-13 Thread Olav Vitters
Hi all, it has been around half a year since GNOME started to host a Discourse[0] instance, which was generally well received. Listadmin wise (I'm NOT the admin here!), mailman is not really nice to use. If something ends up in the moderation queue it'll take quite a bit of effort for a

Re: Proposal for an Events Code of Conduct and Policy Referendum

2018-04-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 04:40:29PM +0200, Benjamin Berg wrote: > Codes of Conduct (CoC) and especially the policies surrounding them are > a very political issue (which easily becomes emotional). Unfortunately, I reviewed the latest CoC proposal. My feedback is below.

Re: Code of Conduct Adoption Process

2016-09-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 08:29:50PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > We should judge proposals based on what they say and their effects, > not based on personalities. FYI: Those messages were moderated (IIRC Lefty is), there's nobody really actively looking at moderated emails (various reasons).

Re: Memberships needing renewal (2016-8)

2016-08-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:59:14PM +, GNOME Foundation Membership Committee wrote: > Olav Vitters, 2014-08-05 Didn't notice any earlier email, but did get one around this time. Sent a request. -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing l

Re: [Builder] Developer experience (DX) hackfest 2016

2015-12-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 10:03:55AM -0300, Hugo Alejandro wrote: > http://rtcquickstart.org/ > > Daniel Pocock Daniel has always offered their help in creating and improving > communications through opensource protocols. That's pretty far off from what we're looking for. Above describes how to

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:06:49AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: I'm entirely in favor of an improved code of conduct, both for events and in general. And thank you for raising this issue. Some searching turned up https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct , but that's definitely

Re: GUADEC 2015 when?

2015-02-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 04:55:07PM +, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: On 23/01/2015, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 06:14:16PM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote: We've been planning to run the conference between August 7-9, with a flexible hackfest schedule after

Re: foundation application..

2015-02-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:44:19PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote: This is something I believe could happen if an amendment were to be proposed with compelling evidence to support it so we are able to take an informed vote on it. At the moment the issue is that a decision which overrides the

Re: foundation application..

2015-02-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 06:30:51PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote: If you have a concrete reason why it does help to continue to ignore bylaws that are inconvenient for whatever is more convenient, then you are free to make a case for that. California law probably would probably override

Re: foundation application..

2015-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:52:32PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote: If you have a concrete reason why it does help to continue to ignore bylaws that are inconvenient for whatever is more convenient, then you are free to make a case for that. California law probably would probably override that

Re: foundation application..

2015-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20:21AM +, Magdalen Berns wrote: It doesn't make a difference. The bylaws are the rules which regulate the GNOME Foundation. GNOME's bylaws state the rules on membership eligibility by defining what a contributor is and who is illegible for membership (i.e. IMO:

Re: OUTAGE: bugzilla.gnome.org, 09th February (09:00 CET) - 10th February (22:00 CET)

2015-02-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 09:58:49AM +0100, Alexandre Franke wrote: As I already told Sri on IRC yesterday, if anything is wrong with our current bugzilla, you should start by filing bugs. Then we can start looking for solutions and someone to implement them. Otherwise we can't guess what you

Re: foundation application..

2015-02-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 05:01:42PM -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Yes, I've had other anecdotes where people relate the same thing. As I said, I'm intimidated too when go through it. Maybe if there are interested people we could work on it together? I sometimes just hand out bugzilla

GNOME support for fixmydocument.eu

2015-02-04 Thread Olav Vitters
There's a website to encourage support for open standards, so ODF usage within European Union. On http://fixmydocuments.eu/?page_id=27 I see LibreOffice supporting this. KDE is also mentioned. It would be nice if we were listed as well I think. -- Regards, Olav

Re: GUADEC 2015 when?

2015-01-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 06:14:16PM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote: We've been planning to run the conference between August 7-9, with a flexible hackfest schedule after that. That might changedepending on the final venue, but hopefully it helps with planning! Thanks for the update! I cannot take

GUADEC 2015 when?

2015-01-21 Thread Olav Vitters
Hi, Any idea on when GUADEC 2015 will be? I need to coordinate my vacation with colleagues and those colleagues aren't as flexible as me. Thanks. -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 10:28:02PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote: The point about that really is that the recent campaign seems to have demonstrated that in principle, GNOME already has the infrastructure which could allow them to accept money for any given crowdfunding campaign on

Re: Linking to non-free websites from gnome.org

2015-01-07 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 02:47:00PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote: So the GNOME infrastructure can't figure that one out but Christian, an already overburdened volunteer who is trying to scape funds for his project, somehow can do it all by himself? That makes absolutely no sense. From your

Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

2014-09-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 01:17:04PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote: I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented) way

Groupon @ Phoronix

2014-07-31 Thread Olav Vitters
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTc1MjI | Hopefully the GNOME Foundation and others will be able to extrude | their forces in clearing up this odd and unfortunate situation. -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list

Re: Current state of Foundation finances

2014-04-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:32:12AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote: The board expects that you may have some questions or would like to know more details about the problem, please read https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQ and contact the board at board-l...@gnome.org if

Re: Hello from a new member

2014-01-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:29:26PM +0002, Yosef Or Boczko wrote: Thank you for accepting me as a member. Welcome! -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Happy to be a member of the gnome foundation

2014-01-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 10:14:23PM +0100, Mario Wenzel wrote: as a new member of the foundation you are, so says the welcome-email, highly encouraged to write to this mailing list in order to introduce yourself. Welcome! Very nice that you're helping out. Also nice to see that gnome-shell

Re: Mass Reboot: Wednesday 18th, 09:00 - 10:30 AM GMT+2

2013-09-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:56:21PM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: Everything went fine, all the systems were updated and rebooted successfully. Thanks for the amount of effort you put in. Even more so because I've been slacking for quite a while. -- Regards, Olav

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 05:08:06PM +0200, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Le 2013-08-18 23:13, Olav Vitters a écrit : On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 01:14:47PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote: Since when did you become a Dr without having an actual doctorate- honorary ones don't mean shit? Since when

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 01:14:47PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote: Since when did you become a Dr without having an actual doctorate- honorary ones don't mean shit? Since when is such behaviour socially acceptable? Anyway, you're banned from both lists, bye. -- Regards, Olav

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 09:26:33AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: to maintain the OpenFire Jabber server. First, as Olav mentioned, there's no SSL support for a service where you would expect privacy. There is SSL. Just that: 1) they broke it in a newer version and never fixed it in any

Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

2013-03-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:03:33AM -0400, Shaun McCance wrote: I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts on it, or how to go about doing so. That is because we do not have a nice accounts system. I don't

Re: New mail archive script

2013-02-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:11:28AM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 2013-02-13 10:15, Olav Vitters wrote: In the new script I changed the layout. You can see it at: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-bugsquad/ though it'll be overwritten as soon as a new email is sent to that mailing

Re: NFS OUTAGE: 15th Feb, 14:00 - 16:30 GMT+1

2013-02-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 07:22:45PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: Everything went fine, please let me know if you notice anything strange either for /home/users directories and for /ftp on master.gnome.org. Fyi, this means yet another very old and unsupported machine has been replaced by the new

New mail archive script

2013-02-13 Thread Olav Vitters
[ Regarding the new mail.gnome.org ] On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 04:10:52PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: All the services should be up and running again. The migration took a bit more than we expected cause of a failing script. That was a Perl script which failed because of a missing module. It

Re: Mail OUTAGE: 29 Jan, 21.00 - 23.00 GMT+1

2013-01-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:33:55PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: I'm currently in the middle of migrating our mail server to a different host and I'll take care of updating the relevant details (MX Records etc.) tomorrow. Cool! Info for the rest: the current machine handling mail is really old

Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire!

2013-01-25 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:29:10PM -0500, Karen Sandler wrote: In the spirit of the below email from last week, I'm extremely pleased to announce that the Foundation is hiring Andrea to work as our new sysadmin contractor. We've been without someone in this position since Christer stepped down

Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics

2013-01-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 06:37:41PM -0500, Karen Sandler wrote: Moreover, it's probably more polite to make requests about changes to moderation policy off-list to the admins, I'm set as one of the listadmins for this mailing list. Suggest at minimum the following: * decide what is on topic and

Re: Fwd: Re: Commit push do gnome-calculator

2012-12-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:21:38PM -0200, Enrico Nicoletto wrote: I and my collegue Rafael Ferreira are facing problems in push the catalog pt_BR.po in Gnome Calculator´s module in Git. We, from the Brazilian Portuguese Translation Team, believe that this error is caused by a permission

Re: Bugzilla upgrade work

2012-12-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:06:03AM -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Is there some way we could make these extensions and patches we can put in a puppet install? I realize the database portion is going to be the manual stuff, but it seems that it would be easier to be able to automate it. Of

Bugzilla upgrade work

2012-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
If anyone wants to join, I'll work on Bugzilla during Dec 22 - Dec 30 together with Andrea. Recommended to know: - Bugzilla - GNOME Bugzilla (it is not standard :P) see https://launchpad.net/bugzilla.gnome.org for the code and instructions to see the diff vs vanilla 3.4) - Perl - read

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 06:33:17PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 18:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: That is why there is a GNOME extension as well. Then there's likely missing documentation about dependencies. Currently no README file in the Browse extension would even

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:48:43PM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: Thanks for bringing this up Andre. I can try to work on the upgrade but I never touched Bugzilla before since Olav was used to manage it. I've searched around for the upgrade documentation [1] and it doesn't look like an hard

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:58:48PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: Do *NOT* touch Bugzilla. As mentioned before, there are *load* and with the not touching I meant in case of an intended action of just upgrading to a new vanilla upstream version. -- Regards, Olav

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:17:54PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 16:48 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: Thanks for bringing this up Andre. I can try to work on the upgrade but I never touched Bugzilla before since Olav was used to manage it. I've searched around for the upgrade

Re: Bugzilla upgrade? [was: Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!]

2012-12-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:42:16PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 17:24 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: Would be helpful if Olav could outline that, yes. There's a raw codedump of some stuff at http://bzr.mozilla.org/bugzilla/extensions/ which is untested and non-working

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:26:22AM -0500, Emily Gonyer wrote: Exactly. This is what most browsers do now as well - they have a 'preferences' with very basic, standard things (much as we have in settings currently). Then theres a little button for advanced - and then you get all sorts of

Re: Change in affiliation

2012-06-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 07:16:09PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: starting on June 25, my new affiliation will be the Mozilla Foundation. Probably bad, but my first thought was wtf will happen with clutter :P Congrats and so on :) -- Regards, Olav

Re: Database's machine DOWN

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:02:13AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le dimanche 03 juin 2012, à 21:19 +0200, Olav Vitters a écrit : On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 06:02:38PM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: we applied today a few updates on our main Mysql host (drawable) and a faulty reboot prevents

Re: Database's machine DOWN

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 09:19:43PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 06:02:38PM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: we applied today a few updates on our main Mysql host (drawable) and a faulty reboot prevents the machine to get up again. We've contacted the Red Hat IT already

Re: Database's machine DOWN

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:46:50AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 4 June 2012 08:02, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Is the sql database for the elections impacted by this? If yes, is there a risk that some votes got lost? Some bugs appear to have been lost, e.g.

Re: Database's machine DOWN

2012-06-03 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 06:02:38PM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: we applied today a few updates on our main Mysql host (drawable) and a faulty reboot prevents the machine to get up again. We've contacted the Red Hat IT already and hopefully the issue will be fixed anytime soon. (no ETA though)

Re: live.gnome.org Maintenance

2012-05-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 09:58:58AM +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: live.gnome.org will go under MAINTENANCE in a few minutes while I migrate the content to the new host I finished setting up yesterday night. Another mail will follow as soon as everything got migrated. Awesome! It is still

Re: The GNOME Foundation has a new home

2012-02-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:15:35AM +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: It's an honour for me to announce that the Foundation's website has been completely migrated to gnome.org. We've been working on this for a few months now, but the result is simply awesome. Cool! FYI, you could also change

Re: FOSDEM stand

2012-01-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 08:58:03AM +0100, Tobias Mueller wrote: Let me draw your attention at the wiki: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2012/Stand. It'd be awesome if you could add yourself to the list of people helping out at the FOSDEM stand. So far, it's only a couple of people

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-20 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 06:07:07PM +, Bastien Nocera wrote: And I was hoping to steer the discussion towards the fact that 1) it's a piece of freedesktop.org software that does this, so 2) the discussion should take place neither on GNU mailing-lists, nor on GNOME ones, but on

Re: FOG contact

2012-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:32:43PM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote: Is there an alias for such a request that would be the right place to ask questions? Tried the generic bo...@gnome.org? -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list

Re: FOG contact

2012-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 07:56:00PM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote: Maybe having a FOG alias going to several people would still make sense and make FOG donors feel like there is 'support contact' to get in touch with without the need to subscribe to a GNOME mailing list or dig up contacts. If

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:20:18AM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: You mention that we had a problem with this in the last Desktop Summit. Has this been a problem in other events as well? The board specifically requested GNOME-NL to hold GUADEC. -- Regards, Olav

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 08:02:32PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:20:18AM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: You mention that we had a problem with this in the last Desktop Summit. Has this been a problem in other events as well? The board specifically requested GNOME-NL

Re: Desktop Summit Planning

2011-12-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:42:28PM -0600, Brian Cameron wrote: The biggest complaints about the Desktop Summit seem to be: I don't want to miss out on GUADEC. And a Desktop Summit is not a GUADEC. In discussion, the following options have been suggested as ways to improve the event. 1. To

Re: FOSDEM stand

2011-12-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:17:08PM +0100, Lionel Dricot wrote: Living not far from Brussels, the box could be sent to my place. I can bring it on Saturday morning and take it back on Sunday afternoon. Cool and thanks! I'll check how to send the box to you. -- Regards, Olav

FOSDEM stand

2011-11-29 Thread Olav Vitters
Heard that we didn't register a FOSDEM stand yet, so I did it on behalf of GNOME. I'll likely only be there in the afternoon. Not sure who normally registers the stand or is an early bird. In any case, if someone could reply and say the event box will be there + usual t-shirts and so on: would be

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - October 4th, 2011

2011-10-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 03:15:34PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: * Desktop Summit * What to do with the survey results? * Stormy asked for a breakdown of the data, received a full data dump of the results in csv format. Asked for database format. * Some data mining

Re: new member, introduction

2011-10-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 10:21:27AM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: Part of my day job is to support several hundred users running GNOME on OpenBSD for big corporations around the globe. Ohh.. nice! Do you also blog about that support? Always nice to see such things on planet gnome. (hint hint

Candidates question: Contributor agreement

2011-05-26 Thread Olav Vitters
Given that we already have a policy on copyright assignments[1], I wondered what is your position regarding contributor agreements[2]? Should the board do something with contributor agreements and if so, what should be done? [1] https://live.gnome.org/CopyrightAssignment [2] e.g.

Re: orphaned GNOME Foundnation web site

2011-05-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 01:02:41PM -0700, Andre Klapper wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 11:21 -0700, Andy Tai wrote: FYI, there is an old site at http://gnome-foundation.org/ which shows information from about 2001. Maybe the URL should be auto-forward to the current site. This is not an

Re: Candidacy: Lionel Dricot

2011-05-22 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:00:45AM +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: I want to achieve to make obvious to anybody that all the GNOME technologies (including GTK+) are technologies adapted to a commercial product and that high quality commercial support exist for them. I hope this will help GNOME to

Re: Candidacy: Rodrigo Moya

2011-05-19 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:23:47AM +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Also, based on recent discussions, I would like to help define the message we give to 3rd parties about what GNOME is, so there is no confusion as to what those 3rd parties should expect from GNOME. Do you think GNOME means GNOME

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - March 29th, 2011

2011-04-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:00:06PM -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: * There has also been discussion about whether GNOME projects should be allowed to join Conservancy. o Andreas, Bastien, Paul: -1 o Emily, German, Og, Paul: 0 [..] * CiviCRM Improvements

Re: desktopsummit registration forces gnome users to have a kde identity

2011-03-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 04:47:28PM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote: What a nice answer... The problem is not about growing up but about preserving the GNOME identity. What is the problem exactly? I'd feel weird registering at an KDE site, because I'd only register for Desktop Summit (which I view

Re: desktopsummit registration forces gnome users to have a kde identity

2011-03-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:57:53AM +1300, Ben Cooksley wrote: Due to the way the application is built, a entirely seperate copy of the application would have to be set up, and it would administer the same data. Ok, seems too much effort.  * guarantee that my details are only used for

Re: CENATIC Report on the International Status of Open Source Software 2010

2010-12-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 07:55:33AM -0800, Lefty wrote: I agree. In fact, I'd like to see the full text of Mr. Stallman's essay on why software should be free included as well, so that readers will not be misled in any way, but will understand the full import of this distinction. I

Re: [guadec-list] Dates format for Desktop Summit 2011 announced

2010-10-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 09:30:49AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Gil, Gil Forcada wrote: So criticism was expected? I understood as a set-in-stone decision :) Feedback was expected... some of this *is* set in stone, but I definitely prefer hearing concerns now, so that we can try to

Re: GUADEC Feedback (we want it!)

2010-10-12 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:56:55AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 October 2010 06:51, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: [...] Thank you to everyone for the feedback.  We've organized and collected it and published it here: http://live.gnome.org/GUADEC/Guadec2010Feedback Thanks

Re: Question for Bastian Nocera

2010-06-14 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:53:17PM +0200, guido iodice wrote: Excuse me, I was unclear. That is no matter of quantity, but matter Some of these posts (the one I'm replying to) hit the moderation queue. Just FYI: I won't approve any of such posts anymore. Find another list to discuss GNU vs

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 11:57:49AM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: The secret master plan  Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer  somewhere! It would be really useful  To the extent we have a

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - May 13, 2010

2010-05-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:49:19AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: * Sysadmin job o An Interview Team has been established + The Interview Team is composed of 3 people: Jonathan

Re: pvanhoof issue (was: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap)

2010-02-28 Thread Olav Vitters
Take this stuff off list please. -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: Foundation IRC Meeting on Saturday, February 27th

2010-02-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 02:01:21PM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: As discussed during the last IRC meeting of the Foundation, we're going to hold another IRC meeting next Saturday: Please send this to foundation-announce instead. It is meant for announcements. I am going to unsubscribe from

Re: Oracle takeover and GNOME accessibility

2010-02-08 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:14:01PM +0100, Fernando Herrera wrote: So, I would like to ask the board to take this issue very seriously and try to contact SUN/Oracle representatives in the advisory board regarding this issue. Fyi, this was also raised as a major concern during a release team

Administrivia: Subscription policy

2009-12-15 Thread Olav Vitters
In order to slow down people subscribing without reading the archives as a quick fix I've *temporarily* changed the subscription policy to require approval from a moderator. This is NOT a change in policy, everyone will be approved. It is just to avoid lots of new threads about GNU and so on

Re: Private Foundation-List Petition for referendum

2009-12-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 05:02:15PM +1000, brendan edmonds wrote: I used the term 'open source' to refer to the following criteria of the definition for a project to be open source (http://opensource.org/docs/osd). I approved this non-member email. However, from

END OF THREAD PLEASE (was: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership)

2009-12-09 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:48:45PM +, Lucas Rocha wrote: Before deciding on this, we thought it would be useful to get some feedback from the community. Seems thread is becoming 1) heated 2) repeating So, see subject. -- Regards, Olav ___

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:59:47AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: reasons why they might happen. Ignoring the rest, I'll just share my thoughts on ability to discuss things on mailing lists. Let me be as clear as possible: There are people in our community who are losing faith in the

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-06-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 05:13:44PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On 06/02/2009 05:56 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: - just doing something (infrastructure) is*way* better than trying to discuss it on d-d-l. No idea why, maybe because I explain it badly, but I view discussing things on d-d-l

Re: What do you think of the foundation?

2009-05-31 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 07:33:07AM -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: Sometimes people say inappropriate things in inappropriate tones on GNOME forums, irc, mailing lists, blogs, etc. Right now, the community just lets them. We don't enforce our Standards of Conduct. That is somewhat overstated: 1. I

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:00:52AM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: I'd like to help with another path forward, namely native git repositories since I believe that is what most of the community wants. As you said, it isn't clear how it could work for non-sysadmins to come up with clear proposal

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:40:33AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: That isn't a contest. It is a survey. Please don't read more in to my email than I intended. There's no need to get defensive. It is not defensive. I

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 08:10:21AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote: This is pretty decent analysis going on here :) I'd like to remind people of John Carr's recent blog post too, someone mentioned in the survey results actually. JC has been working on bzr with git protocol support, which

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's crazy to officially want to support git, bzr and hg *at* the same time *from* the same

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 11:37:05PM +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that the points I made

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:04:30AM +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of gnome. I totally agree here! This is simply a problem of QA. If someone writes

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:05:30PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a terrible idea? You expect me

Re: Changes to the GNOME board

2008-12-15 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 02:12:51PM -0500, Gregory Leblanc wrote: With that said, Congratulations Diego! me too I do have one question about the bylaws, though. I seem to recall a large discussion about changing the term of the directors to be 18 months instead of 1 year. However, Section 3

Re: Minutes for Directors Meeting of Sept. 3, 2008

2008-09-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 09:21:51AM -0400, Luis Villa wrote: * Meeting w/ KDE about GUADEC/Akademy 2009 being scheduled for early September in Berlin. So instead of trying to push for earlier in the year we're delaying it even further? How will this relate to 'high season'? Note that early

Re: Using the proper feed for pvanhoof

2008-09-11 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 05:01:12PM +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: I remember Jeff Waugh, implementer of the policies, stating that the diversity of pgo is what he wants to maintain. Small addition (quote from pgo): Planet GNOME is a window into the world, work and lives of GNOME hackers and

Re: Minutes for Directors Meeting of May 5th, 2007

2008-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
[ If it is regarding some technical detail, please follow up to gnome-infrastructure (reply-to set to that). ] On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:46:04PM -0700, Luis Villa wrote: * Accounts team ACTION: vincent to ask around who can extend/develop mango to automate accounts creation I'd really

Re: Supporting GTK+

2008-06-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 10:49:40AM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Perhaps this is a issue with the GNOME website. Long time thing to change it... Looking at http://www.gnome.org/contact/ it first and foremost lists IRC channels and later down on the page a bunch of e-mail addresses, without

Re: GNOME Foundation and Mozilla Foundation join forces

2008-03-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 04:33:38PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: I heard that work was under way developing a free replacement for Talkback. I do not know where this work stands now. In any case, we need to be careful not to recommend the non-free Firefox binaries, unless both problems have

Re: ghop

2008-01-27 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 10:29:23AM -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: I think gnome-love and gnome-contest (or whatever) should be separate things. The nice thing about ghop was that it pulled in new people who would not otherwise have been interested, by motivating them with a contest

Re: GNOME Foundation Statement on ECMA TC45-M Participation

2007-11-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 05:05:08PM +, Alan Cox wrote: Don't change the subject. The statement I quoted is trollish. There is no need to say we are shooting at our own feet repeatedly. Especially without any argument (I do not mean just text in an email). The announcement was not

Re: GNOME Foundation Statement on ECMA TC45-M Participation

2007-11-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:44:52AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Don't cry about people who criticize the Foundation's unconditional support for OOXML, you're pointing guns at your own feet (and in fact just took another shot). Nice trollish statement. -- Regards, Olav

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