Hey,
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:40:16PM +0200, Andres G. Aragoneses wrote:
On 16/09/14 17:48, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things,
rather than having these 15 students, plus
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 02:32:59PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
But it seems logical to me that, for example, the Linux Foundation
pays only for the OPWs related to Linux.
Why do you say that? There are lots of companies that sponsor OPW
kernel interns other than the Linux Foundation,
Hey Michael,
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:15:42PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
It would also be good to actually consider the value of student projects
before funding them. With GSoC we just picked which students seemed most
likely to successfully complete the projects they proposed, rather
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:15:42PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
In the past you mentioned that you think we should fund any
GNOME-related project. I disagree. I'm not sure if it would be
beneficial to mention specific projects, but to be blunt, I think some
of our GSoC projects were a waste
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 08:43:29AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
Most of the GSoC projects we get proposals for are ideas which were
suggested by mentors/members of the GNOME projects on
https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreach/SummerOfCode/2014/Ideas
Students are also encouraged to come up with
On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
It seems to me that this thread has turn into a series of counter arguments
with no specific direction.
Before we go ahead, can we please clarify:
a) What problem are we trying to solve.
My impression, increasingly, is that
Luis Villa l...@tieguy.org wrote:
...
Luis
worried that making the TODO list the Bountie list was
dangerous, because people might end up doing only the things
people pay for. Have we already started down this slop already
with company involvement?
...
On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 11:56 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
The Elementary project claim to have had a lot of success with
Bountysource [1].
Earlier in this thread, they suggested that their bounties are mostly
going out to regular Elementary developers who would have worked on
something else for
Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
The Elementary project claim to have had a lot of success with
Bountysource [1].
Earlier in this thread, they suggested that their bounties are mostly
going out to regular Elementary developers who would have worked on
something else for
On 16/09/14 17:48, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things,
rather than having these 15 students, plus 10 others working on less
important things?
Nope! But maybe with a better
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Lefty le...@shugendo.org wrote:
On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
It seems to me that this thread has turn into a series of counter arguments
with no specific direction.
Before we go ahead, can we please clarify:
a) What
On 16/09/2014, Sébastien Wilmet swil...@gnome.org wrote:
Thank you very much for your answer, Kat.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:12:15PM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
interns attending events in 2014 were sponsored within allocated
travel budgets out of general funds or by sponsors for that
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
The approach to budgeting is similar in that the Foundation and Google
both have a budget, but our budgets are quite different. Any spending
in any area means that that money cannot be spent in another area.
What if the
Changing topic as this thread has branched in many directions (as others
later in this thread pointed out).
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 15:16 +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 13:58 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:51:15AM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Tristan Van Berkom
tris...@upstairslabs.com wrote:
I think perhaps, if we organized bounties which clearly and definitely
improve software that industry is going to use, and not only for the
singular purpose of the GNOME Desktop Environment, then perhaps
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 15:43 -0500, meg ford wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Tristan Van Berkom
tris...@upstairslabs.com wrote:
I think perhaps, if we organized bounties which clearly and definitely
improve software that industry is going to use, and not only for the
singular
[Resending in full, as in my previous I accidentally pressed the Send button by
mistake]
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 15:43 -0500, meg ford wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Tristan Van Berkom
tris...@upstairslabs.com wrote:
I think perhaps, if we organized bounties which clearly and
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Germán Poo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote:
Luis
worried that making the TODO list the Bountie list was
dangerous, because people might end up doing only the things
people pay for. Have we already started down this slop already
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Sébastien Wilmet swil...@gnome.org
wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 09:07:18PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
But we should stop guessing or making assumption now and wait for
someone from the travel committee or with the relevant knowledge about
that budget
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 01:17:04PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54:44PM +0200, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote:
I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented)
way
for
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 15:22 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
- Writing a book, another actionable item.
My school told me to buy a Qt textbook when I was a freshman, even
though the class didn't involve Qt and we have zero Qt-related classes.
Simply having the book increased Qt's exposure. What if
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Sébastien Wilmet swil...@gnome.org wrote:
Alexandre pointed out that GUADEC is at the right time. But not every
OPW rounds are during the summer! So some OPW interns go to GUADEC
several months later than the round. So why not doing the same also for
GSoC and
It seems to me that this thread has turn into a series of counter arguments
with no specific direction.
Before we go ahead, can we please clarify:
a) What problem are we trying to solve.
and b) How is that problem a bigger problem that the one's we are solving
and whether that's a problem the
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio fabi...@fidencio.org wrote:
I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented) way
for people raising their questions wrt how the GNOME Foundation's money is
spent.
I *do* understand it's keep private for security reasons
On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio fabi...@fidencio.org
wrote:
I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well documented) way
for people raising their questions wrt how the GNOME
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:22 +0200, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
So it's better to only have 15 students working on important things,
rather than having these 15 students, plus 10 others working on less
important things?
Nope! But maybe with a better selection process we could instead end up
with
On 09/16/2014 12:22 PM, Alexandre Franke wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ is a bit outdated, but it exists.
minor
On 16 September 2014 17:44, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
hi Alexandre;
On 16 September 2014 17:22, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 10:28 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:07 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
I'm sure you're confusing me with somebody else. I don't live in the
US, I only work for a US company. I live in the UK.
Whoops; I was thinking that Endless is based in San
On 16 September 2014 11:33, Sébastien Wilmet swil...@gnome.org wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 09:07:18PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
But we should stop guessing or making assumption now and wait for
someone from the travel committee or with the relevant knowledge about
that budget to
On 16 September 2014 16:12, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 September 2014 16:09, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Fabiano Fidêncio fabi...@fidencio.org
wrote:
I do believe GNOME Foundation should have a clear (and well
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:16:26PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
it's also very much C-centered, whereas we want more people to use C
only for core library components.
A good practice for writing an application is to write the backend as an
internal library, so it can easily be used later by
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Hashem Nasarat hnasa...@gmail.com wrote:
Page 12 in the 2013 annual report
(http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/GNOME-Annual-Report-2013.pdf)
has financial information for 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013. Is this not
what you're looking for?
No, it's
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:27:43PM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
I have proposed to the board that a financial report should be
published every month as that will enable the membership to be better
informed. I am already presenting a financial report to the board on a
monthly basis, so it
Thank you very much for your answer, Kat.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:12:15PM +0100, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
interns attending events in 2014 were sponsored within allocated
travel budgets out of general funds or by sponsors for that event.
For the budget allocated for travel, would it be a
Hi.
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:57:20PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
Like the Linux Foundation, the GNOME Foundation could hire one or more
developers.
It has been mentioned already that this is not a valid analogy, but even it was,
I don't think this will happen in the (near) future.
I think
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:54:14AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
Is there some specific objection you have with GNOME handling interns of
projects that are not specific to GNOME?
That is another problem.
What Philip Van Hoof said is that GNOME should focus less on outreach,
and more on software. If
hi Sébastien;
On 14 September 2014 13:07, Sébastien Wilmet swil...@gnome.org wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:54:14AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
Is there some specific objection you have with GNOME handling interns of
projects that are not specific to GNOME?
That is another problem.
What
On 14 September 2014 16:34, Sébastien Wilmet swil...@gnome.org wrote:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 03:29:35PM +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
I have a question, please explain me how outreach is mutually exclusive
with creating great software? The thing is that we can and we should do
both things,
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 02:32:59PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
But it seems logical to me that, for example, the Linux Foundation
pays only for the OPWs related to Linux.
Why do you say that? There are lots of companies that sponsor OPW
kernel interns other than the Linux Foundation,
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:22:50AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
The list of sponsors is very public, where have you looked that you have
not seen it?
Here: https://gnome.org/opw/#sponsors
It is not explained which organizations sponsor which projects. Do all
organizations sponsor all OPW interns,
Le samedi 13 septembre 2014 à 14:32 +0200, Sébastien Wilmet a écrit :
Hello,
I know that money and OPW are sensitive topics, but I would like to
better understand, and some transparency shouldn't hurt.
For each GSoC student, the mentoring organization receives 500$. How is
this money
Additional thoughts on what I just said in my previous mail:
[...]
In theory I don't see a reason why GNOME couldn't store for many years
the GNOME project gsoc mentor 500$ stipends it receives, except that in
practice they are too little and thus end up being used completely (I
think).
On Sat, 2014-09-13 at 08:54 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 05:44:49PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 08:22:50AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
The list of sponsors is very public, where have you looked that you have
not seen it?
Here:
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