. But the bounty website
isn't publicising it.
http://www.gnome.org/bounties/Addressbook.html#127515
http://www.gnome.org/bounties/Tasks.html#127557
Claimed (somebody is working on it)
http://www.gnome.org/bounties/Addressbook.html#127525
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will be happy.
I hope
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project for the
GNOME desktop and infrastructure, how will you involve yourself in the
One Laptop Per Child concept?
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Congratulations. You got my vote.
I don't think there's a lot, in your reply, I disagree with.
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 14:19 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 18:56 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
How important are desktop standards for you. How will you attempt to let
are in general.
If such a code would be agreed on, it should be very clear that it's
indeed not how we really are in general. But rather how we would like to
be on the island GNOME Utopia.
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Resending this message as it didn't get on the list because I used the
wrong From header.
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 15:07 +0100, Telsa Gwynne wrote:
Ar Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:57:10AM +0200, ysgrifennodd Philip Van Hoof:
note. Maybe we should take this off the foundation-list? I don't know.
I
a mistake.
It's human nature. Forgive people as they would forgive you.
(And no, I'm not inspired by Christianity. I simply agree with it)
If that point would be added, I would switch sides and would agree that
the code is a good idea.
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these principles
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does. Because we want them to be like, to behave like and
finally to be us.
I disagree with that.
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to add and we really mean it, and then really we do.
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as a result
would a lot gnome developers start making cool debugging software? like
what happened with things like git?)
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Is somebody this year taking care of the GNOME developer room at FOSDEM?
I think this year you have to request one. Let's not forget to do
that :) (has somebody done this already?)
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passionate and successful. And if not, let's die trying.
(now that's a good conclusion, no?)
ps. I hereby promise I will try not to make such long philosophic
E-mails anymore. You must be insane for reading all of it!
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to make the technology more popular. I
don't think the Foundation should offer certification itself but maybe
it could work together with an existing institute on expanding its
training offerings around Gnome technology. Just my 2 ct.
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doesn't have,
My project creates opinions from people who prefer MAPI over IMAP, web
clients over normal E-mail, XMPP over SMTP, ...
Lot's of free problems.
Realism!
I imagine fountains of FUD on
every corner.
That's unavoidable for anything we do.
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, Federico, that if you dislike how
Jeff maintains pgo, that you can start a competitor right now.
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would love Canada to become
part of Europe! We once made a tunnel* to the guys living on the British
Islands, maybe we can make one to Canada too? ;-)
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the event.
At this time we are soliciting comments from the GNOME community and
other GUADEC regulars. Please use this thread on foundation-list to
submit your comments. The review period closes on July 4th, in
preparation for making a decision in Istanbul.
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that genius is Jeff. We just write the (sometimes silly) content.
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use-cases.
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waiting for better economic times is even an option.
Let's instead solve this.
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think the keyword.
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going on. It doesn't mean that we must refrain from making decisions.
And yes, some people will be so angry that they'll leave. You can't do
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On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 13:56 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
Philip Van Hoof wrote:
I for example remember that in Berlin we had the idea of putting
interviews with the hackers online. I never found those.
I believe Mirco is still working on the editing of those.
It appears he is almost
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 13:02 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/3/31 Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org:
Sorry, but being on a foreign country, for hacking purposes and still
doing some blogging is hard enough. You can ask, but you can't enforce
people to do it.
Sorry, but I flat out disagree
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On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 16:46 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Philip Van Hoof wrote:
snip aggressive rant
As every opinion of me is looked as being aggressive, it's no longer
possible for me to have this discussion in a constructive kind of way.
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SO
We are trying to fix a non-existing problem.
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sand and salt in the wounds?
Other than the board wanting to perform such childish behaviour, what
would be the purpose of that?
Worsening the situation?
Your steps achieved nothing constructive in this hypothetical case.
Nothing at all. Not one single thing.
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time. Would also be more fair than how you are doing it now.
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fine.
Just don't create three overlapping governments with on top a federal
one. I can tell you how bad that is. Bad.
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for their purchase to GNOME.
It is not a good thing for the GNOME Foundation to support Amazon in
this way. Amazon is one of the main perpetrators of DRM
(see http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/07/orwell-2009-dystopia).
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not GNOME's responsibility.
I think this is a sufficient amount of morality checking.
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you and me differ on opinion. I think this is a
black and white point of view. The reality of it is gray.
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for asking.
When was the community consulted about this decision?
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http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-July/msg6.html
Aha, thanks.
Are the results of that survey available?
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, but they didn't.
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Meeting people is a reason why you do co-located conferences.
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have to,
and people who had to sign it. (FWIW, I have.)
I'm not against requiring this. I'm against public punishments for
people who violate it. I'm not against telling somebody in private to
chill: Assume people mean well is an important advice in the Coc.
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On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:13 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org
wrote:
I (fully) agree with John here.
The lawyer-talk proposal of Jason is a no for me personally.
It's also
goes alongside assuming people mean well.
And perhaps also - Remmeber that different cultures have different
attitudes, styles and touchy subjects.
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companies involved.
Forbidding those contributors to talk about their work goes directly and
philosophically against the Planet GNOME is a window into the world,
work and lives of GNOME hackers and contributors slogan of the project.
You see that word work there? Right.
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GNOME's
from the admins.
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used
in the field.
Making it forbidden to use planet-gnome for that is like wanting to deny
a reality. If GNOME wants to be relevant, it must not boycott reality.
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of those crazy people.
Sorry for being direct. It's just my personality.
Thank you.
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identity.
Cheers,
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[1] You write minimal support. Minimal to me means: either you do
this, or you're out. Feel free to correct me.
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a well-behaving GNU project, or having its own identity.
Cheers,
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[1] You write minimal support. Minimal to me means: either you do
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On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 17:40 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi Dave!
(Are you coming to FOSDEM? We need another of those IRL chats, no?)
Philip Van Hoof wrote:
I propose to have a vote on GNOME's membership to the GNU project.
Such a vote, whatever the outcome, would have little effect
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 12:32 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
On 12/11/2009 11:32 AM, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote:
Philip van Hoof writes
I propose to have a vote on GNOME's membership to the GNU project.
I'd second this.
Quick procedural note: If you really want to pursue this, according
into a cold one.
I'm against the proposal because the planet is doing just fine. Why is
that so hard for some people to accept?
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On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:34 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
Em 13-12-2009 12:44, Philip Van Hoof escreveu:
Richard's claim that proprietary is illegitimate is enforcement. He's
making a philosophic mistake that contradicts his own ideology of free
choice.
Choice of the master
with open source. But openness does have value, so I'd
prefer not to limit access to this list.
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On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 13:11 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Le vendredi 15 janvier 2010, à 13:02 +0100, Philip Van Hoof a écrit :
I also hope the foundation board will respect the results of these
surveys.
What do you mean?
I don't (didn't) mean any immediate action is needed. I
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 14:38 +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote:
Hi Xavier,
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 13:02 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
I disrespect people who claim that this last survey has intentional
bias. For me they are being intellectually dishonest.
Giving one definition of a word,
Lefty
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 10:37 -0500, john palmieri wrote:
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org
wrote:
The results are more than enlightening to me. The surveys definitely
are useful and insightful.
They sharply illustrate that open source
. The survey's
results are open for everybody so this ain't a secret anyway:
There's about twice the uptake for the term open source software as
there is for free software.
If the board respects the results of the survey, which I think it should
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On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:58 -0800, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote:
On 1/15/10 8:49 AM, Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org wrote:
Hi Stormy!
I fully agree with this statement if you replace free software with open
source.
I have some sympathy with this view. Open source is my preference as well
discussions.
I agree, apologizes for the labelling.
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On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 18:05 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 08:58 -0800, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote:
On 1/15/10 8:49 AM, Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org wrote:
Hi Stormy!
Mistake, I was replying to Lefty.
Sorry Lefty. You know I like your féminin side ;)
I fully agree
is far from only a free software community.
This the GNOME foundation should be unambiguously clear about in its
statements and texts. In my opinion.
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that it takes up its responsibility for
their decisions. Especially for the ones when they ignore the opinion of
most of its members: they better be right when they do that.
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, and explanations of why software freedom is valuable.
As the GNOME community's values have a strong ethical ground, I question
the necessity of the FSF's philosophical help.
I believe the insinuation that we do is misplaced.
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be better if ..., you say that's
great! nice job! And then the next time you say how about if you try
xyz this time?
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that will issue from
it.
Yes, this survey is very useful. Thanks a lot for this, Stormy.
I hope the survey results will be made available soon.
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of new members so much nicer.
Is this possible please, or will I have to complain about this again in
six months?
Why don't we ask the new members to give a short introduction
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On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:31 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote:
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:24 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:45 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote:
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote:
Dear membership committee,
Could you
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:02 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Philip Van Hoof wrote:
Okay, that's easy to solve.
We just make it a requirement for becoming a foundation member. And we
document this requirement on the live pages and in a welcome mail.
If they don't introduce themselves, we
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in their
call for papers.
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ranting anti virtual machine people comes along.
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On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 18:38 +0200, Claudio Saavedra wrote:
El mar, 23-02-2010 a las 17:02 +0100, Philip Van Hoof escribió:
Hey Claudio,
On 23/02/10 12:36, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
I often hear complaints about how the RedHat guys turn down patches
from other contributors (mostly from
of work on GTK+: no matter how you look at it, GTK+'s innovation is
stalled. To the point that it gets ridiculous.
If that statement takes all of my karma, whatever karma means, then it
does. So be it.
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On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 09:03 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
On 23/02/10 22:52, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 16:53 +, Martyn Russell wrote:
Hi Martyn,
Don't be confused: most of this reply isn't directed at you personally.
Sure, but I will indulge all the same ;)
That's
the mess.
That doesn't mean I always advocate starting over. But I think GNOME
needs a new perspective for next few years:
Technology is changing. Perspectives are changing. And we'd be missing
the train in a big way if we let mobile slip (as we are, atm).
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that makes it as easy to create visually attractive apps
as it is on Mac
Great proposals, yes.
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relevance of GTK+ and GNOME in future, I think it should be held at the
level of GNOME. It also concerns far more than just GTK+ itself.
But people might have different opinions on that.
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with the GNOME desktop!
Cheers,
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Talking forever about what GNOME should be and expecting for someone
to follow that direction is not going to effectively change anything.
Sure it does.
Thank you.
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On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 19:48 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
Hey Diego,
El dom, 28-02-2010 a las 00:49 +0100, Philip Van Hoof escribió:
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 21:32 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
[cut]
I wish you and the FSF would focus more on user rights and licensing of
(meta)data
to know
who in the the hell made him the GNOME developers' representative and
be able to tell others what I know and need?
Saying that we don't need lessons morality is extremely insulting to
you?
(that's all I said)
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On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 17:39 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
2010/3/2 Philip Van Hoof pvanh...@gnome.org
Stop dragging the GNOME Foundation list down these off topic
roads and stop this pissing contest.
I think you, and many other people, are misinterpreting
with me?
3) And how wasn't it? If it wasn't.
Why aren't you answering those questions?
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it's quite outdated now. Perhaps a team should
step in to bring the sources of that book up to date, and get it
republished?
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like this. I think gnome-build was created back then, and
GtkSourceView's origin can probably also be traced back to that period?
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GNOME's development experience.
Thanks. Now on to the answer of your question:
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
I hope you guys really don't write the XML by hand now.)
No, Glade-3, GtkBuilder or the integration in Anjuta
I would make one small point: I still have
and the bug about TLS encryption
support is *very* promising and going in the right direction, I think.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588189
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On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 13:32 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 11:08 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
We debaters should decrease our traffic on this mailing list
No. Stubborn people who insist on having the last word should stop
pointless arguments. It's bad enough when people
avoided inheriting dumb latency heavy
models and they don't have the compatibility legacy that GNOME has to
worry about in solving them.
OK
Thanks for your very informative reply, Alan.
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On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 08:15 -0500, Jim Gettys wrote:
Philip Van Hoof wrote:
Doing some more [CUT]ing.
In other words:
UI and client developers should learn to build state machines instead of
threads that work like (where [...] is ~ an IP frame):
[ask], wait, [receive], process
in GNOME is the same in this regard, so please
also follow it.
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the guideline away or don't be a member.
A clear position makes happy people. Happy people contribute more.
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your responsibility, not Lefty's. It would even be impolite if he'd have
forwarded a private reply from you to him unto a public mailing list.
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I guess open means open
source as defined here: http://www.opensource.org/ (fair enough?)
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