Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007

2005-08-12 Thread Ghee Teo - Desktop System

Jeff Waugh wrote:


quote who=Rodrigo Moya

 


whatever distro is being used/promoted in Lithuania, I myself would be
really happy to see GUADEC there. Once we conquer Eastern Europe, Russia
and Asia are very close :)
   



And we won't even need elephants! :-)
 

   Of course the most challenging task then is to come up with proper 
way to pronouce

   GUADWC :)

-Ghee


- Jeff

 



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Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007

2005-08-12 Thread Žygimantas Beručka
Pn, 2005 08 12 11:31 +0100, Ghee Teo - Desktop System rašė:

 Of course the most challenging task then is to come up with proper 
 way to pronouce
 GUADWC :)

However, there is a light at the end of a tunnel, when we will manage to
take a GNOME user on Mars we could rename it to GUADUC, U as as in
Universe. :) Hey Shuttleworth, are you ready for a new chalenge? :)

Žygis

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Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007

2005-08-12 Thread JP Rosevear
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 13:23 +0300, Žygimantas Beručka wrote:
 Pn, 2005 08 12 11:31 +0100, Ghee Teo - Desktop System rašė:
 
  Of course the most challenging task then is to come up with proper 
  way to pronouce
  GUADWC :)
 
 However, there is a light at the end of a tunnel, when we will manage to
 take a GNOME user on Mars we could rename it to GUADUC, U as as in
 Universe. :) Hey Shuttleworth, are you ready for a new chalenge? :)

Keep GUADEC.  E == Everywhere now.

-JP
-- 
JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Novell, Inc.

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Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007

2005-08-12 Thread Richard M. Stallman
However the reason you are saying that Ubuntu is
shipping non-free software is not known to me (well, the only place,
where I see non-free software might be, is device drivers, but that is a
fault of hardware vendors. And it is reasonable to use them, isn't it?

I don't remember which programs in Ubuntu are non-free; perhaps they
are device drivers.  Someone else recently said that's what they are,
so that seems likely.

The reason why distributing non-free device drivers is harmful is that
distributing any non-free program says, in effect, Non-free programs
aren't so bad.  After all, if you thought it was really bad to
install a non-free program, you wouldn't suggest it to others.

And if using a non-free device driver is acceptable because we call it
the hardware companies' fault, then what about using Sun's Java
libraries and saying that's Sun's fault, or using Adobe's e-book
reader with DRM and saying that's Adobe's fault, or RealPlayer's
spyware-player and saying that's RealPlayer's fault, etc?

Of course we want GNU/Linux to be successful, but why is that goal
important?  Because our system is a way to escape from non-free
software.

Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a long digression
from the topic of planning GUADEC 2007.
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Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007

2005-08-11 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 19:47 +0300, Žygimantas Beručka wrote:
 Kt, 2005 08 11 10:28 -0400, Richard M. Stallman rašė:
  and government. As of speaking of my country, Ubuntu is doing a great
  job in private sector here, but we need publicity to make it happen in
  education and/or government.
  
  With disappointment, I report that Ubuntu includes some non-free software.
  It would be better to promote Debian, which at least does not include
  non-free software even though their site distributes some.
  Even better would be Ututo, which is 100% free software.
 
 I'm not saying that we are promoting Ubuntu. The reason I have mentioned
 Ubuntu here, is that it is one of the most polished distributions
 shipping GNOME as the desktop. Due to its marketing policy, it is self
 promoting distribution, Ubuntu are shipping live CDs together with
 install CDs (heard something about virus, spyware free OS? 

whatever distro is being used/promoted in Lithuania, I myself would be
really happy to see GUADEC there. Once we conquer Eastern Europe, Russia
and Asia are very close :)
-- 
Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007

2005-08-11 Thread Žygimantas Beručka
Kt, 2005 08 11 18:01 -0700, Jeff Waugh rašė:

 And we won't even need elephants! :-)

Ah.. I can actually already see a movie somewhere around 2011 dedicated
to the glory of jdubs 10x10, with an exclaimer poped up somewhere at
the end of a movie No elephants were harmed during conquering the world
whatsoever, just right before showing jdub riding a russian bear. :-)

Žygis

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