Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[Karen Sandler]

On 2016-03-25 05:19, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:

Hi Adam,

On 25 March 2016 at 08:46, Adam Dingle  wrote:
If GNOME itself could accept these copyrights, that would be ideal in 
my
opinion.  GNOME board members, I assume you are on this list - would 
you be

willing to consider this at the next board meeting?

I've added it to the agenda, we will discuss it at the next board
meeting, which is scheduled for Monday.



Great! As we've discussed privately, Conservancy could also be a home 
for the

copyrights now that we have infrastructure in place to accept such
assignments. I'm also happy to help GNOME do the same, though it's more
work to get set up.

karen
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Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[Ekaterina Gerasimova]

Hi Adam,

On 25 March 2016 at 08:46, Adam Dingle  wrote:
> If GNOME itself could accept these copyrights, that would be ideal in my
> opinion.  GNOME board members, I assume you are on this list - would you be
> willing to consider this at the next board meeting?

I've added it to the agenda, we will discuss it at the next board
meeting, which is scheduled for Monday.


Thanks
Kat

> adam
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Behdad Esfahbod
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Thanks for Yorba.
>
> It occurs to me that while GNOME Foundation does not currently own any
> copyright, there is no reason why it can't accept a donation such as this.
>
> behdad
>
> On Mar 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Adam Dingle"  wrote:
>>
>> I think an existing free software organization feels like the best home
>> for these copyrights.  The organizations that others have mentioned here are
>> great leads - I will be in touch with some of them soon.  If none of those
>> pan out, I may repost asking if any individual people would be interested.
>> thanks -
>>
>> adam
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Daniel Espinosa  wrote:
>>
>> Should be an organization or individuals can step up too?
>>
>> El mar. 24, 2016 3:14 PM, "Josh Triplett" 
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0400, Adam Dingle wrote:
>>> > As some of you know, I founded Yorba, a free software non-profit based
>>> > in
>>> > San Francisco that was active from 2009-2015 and developed a few
>>> > popular
>>> > programs for GNOME including the Shotwell photo manager and the Geary
>>> > email
>>> > client, both of which now live in GNOME git.  These programs are
>>> > copyrighted
>>> > by Yorba and a few external contributors and are licensed under the
>>> > LGPL.
>>> >
>>> > Yorba has run out of funding and is winding down - in fact nobody has
>>> > worked
>>> > there since around April 2015.  We now need to shut down the foundation
>>> > (which is a California non-profit corporation), but legally we can't do
>>> > so
>>> > while it still holds any assets including the copyrights on its
>>> > software,
>>> > which are considered intellectual property.
>>> >
>>> > We'd love to find some other free software organization that we can
>>> > pass our
>>> > copyrights on to.  We would sell them for a nominal fee.  In theory the
>>> > copyright recipient could defend the LGPL licensing of these programs
>>> > if
>>> > necessary (though I think the likelihood of such a necessity is low).
>>> >
>>> > My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights.  Is
>>> > anyone
>>> > aware of any other free software organization that might be willing and
>>> > able
>>> > to receive our copyrights?  Thanks -
>>>
>>> You might consider the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Software in the
>>> Public
>>> Interest (SPI), or the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC).
>>>
>>> - Josh Triplett
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Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[Adam Dingle]

If GNOME itself could accept these copyrights, that would be ideal in 
my opinion.  GNOME board members, I assume you are on this list - would 
you be willing to consider this at the next board meeting?


adam

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Behdad Esfahbod 
 wrote:

Hi Adam,

Thanks for Yorba.

It occurs to me that while GNOME Foundation does not currently own 
any copyright, there is no reason why it can't accept a donation such 
as this.


behdad

On Mar 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Adam Dingle"  wrote:
I think an existing free software organization feels like the best 
home for these copyrights.  The organizations that others have 
mentioned here are great leads - I will be in touch with some of 
them soon.  If none of those pan out, I may repost asking if any 
individual people would be interested.  thanks -


adam

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Daniel Espinosa  
wrote:

Should be an organization or individuals can step up too?

El mar. 24, 2016 3:14 PM, "Josh Triplett"  
escribió:

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0400, Adam Dingle wrote:
> As some of you know, I founded Yorba, a free software non-profit 
based in
> San Francisco that was active from 2009-2015 and developed a few 
popular
> programs for GNOME including the Shotwell photo manager and the 
Geary email
> client, both of which now live in GNOME git.  These programs are 
copyrighted
> by Yorba and a few external contributors and are licensed under 
the LGPL.

>
> Yorba has run out of funding and is winding down - in fact 
nobody has worked
> there since around April 2015.  We now need to shut down the 
foundation
> (which is a California non-profit corporation), but legally we 
can't do so
> while it still holds any assets including the copyrights on its 
software,

> which are considered intellectual property.
>
> We'd love to find some other free software organization that we 
can pass our
> copyrights on to.  We would sell them for a nominal fee.  In 
theory the
> copyright recipient could defend the LGPL licensing of these 
programs if
> necessary (though I think the likelihood of such a necessity is 
low).

>
> My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights.  
Is anyone
> aware of any other free software organization that might be 
willing and able

> to receive our copyrights?  Thanks -

You might consider the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Software in 
the Public

Interest (SPI), or the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC).

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Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[Behdad Esfahbod]

Hi Adam,

Thanks for Yorba.

It occurs to me that while GNOME Foundation does not currently own any
copyright, there is no reason why it can't accept a donation such as this.

behdad
On Mar 24, 2016 6:41 PM, "Adam Dingle"  wrote:

> I think an existing free software organization feels like the best home
> for these copyrights.  The organizations that others have mentioned here
> are great leads - I will be in touch with some of them soon.  If none of
> those pan out, I may repost asking if any individual people would be
> interested.  thanks -
>
> adam
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Daniel Espinosa  wrote:
>
> Should be an organization or individuals can step up too?
> El mar. 24, 2016 3:14 PM, "Josh Triplett" 
> escribió:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0400, Adam Dingle wrote:
>> > As some of you know, I founded Yorba, a free software non-profit based
>> in
>> > San Francisco that was active from 2009-2015 and developed a few popular
>> > programs for GNOME including the Shotwell photo manager and the Geary
>> email
>> > client, both of which now live in GNOME git.  These programs are
>> copyrighted
>> > by Yorba and a few external contributors and are licensed under the
>> LGPL.
>> >
>> > Yorba has run out of funding and is winding down - in fact nobody has
>> worked
>> > there since around April 2015.  We now need to shut down the foundation
>> > (which is a California non-profit corporation), but legally we can't do
>> so
>> > while it still holds any assets including the copyrights on its
>> software,
>> > which are considered intellectual property.
>> >
>> > We'd love to find some other free software organization that we can
>> pass our
>> > copyrights on to.  We would sell them for a nominal fee.  In theory the
>> > copyright recipient could defend the LGPL licensing of these programs if
>> > necessary (though I think the likelihood of such a necessity is low).
>> >
>> > My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights.  Is
>> anyone
>> > aware of any other free software organization that might be willing and
>> able
>> > to receive our copyrights?  Thanks -
>>
>> You might consider the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Software in the
>> Public
>> Interest (SPI), or the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC).
>>
>> - Josh Triplett
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Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[Adam Dingle]

I think an existing free software organization feels like the best home 
for these copyrights.  The organizations that others have mentioned 
here are great leads - I will be in touch with some of them soon.  If 
none of those pan out, I may repost asking if any individual people 
would be interested.  thanks -


adam

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Daniel Espinosa  
wrote:

Should be an organization or individuals can step up too?

El mar. 24, 2016 3:14 PM, "Josh Triplett"  
escribió:

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0400, Adam Dingle wrote:
> As some of you know, I founded Yorba, a free software non-profit 
based in
> San Francisco that was active from 2009-2015 and developed a few 
popular
> programs for GNOME including the Shotwell photo manager and the 
Geary email
> client, both of which now live in GNOME git.  These programs are 
copyrighted
> by Yorba and a few external contributors and are licensed under 
the LGPL.

>
> Yorba has run out of funding and is winding down - in fact nobody 
has worked
> there since around April 2015.  We now need to shut down the 
foundation
> (which is a California non-profit corporation), but legally we 
can't do so
> while it still holds any assets including the copyrights on its 
software,

> which are considered intellectual property.
>
> We'd love to find some other free software organization that we 
can pass our
> copyrights on to.  We would sell them for a nominal fee.  In 
theory the
> copyright recipient could defend the LGPL licensing of these 
programs if
> necessary (though I think the likelihood of such a necessity is 
low).

>
> My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights.  
Is anyone
> aware of any other free software organization that might be 
willing and able

> to receive our copyrights?  Thanks -

You might consider the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Software in 
the Public

Interest (SPI), or the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC).

- Josh Triplett
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Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[Daniel Espinosa]

Should be an organization or individuals can step up too?
El mar. 24, 2016 3:14 PM, "Josh Triplett"  escribió:

> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0400, Adam Dingle wrote:
> > As some of you know, I founded Yorba, a free software non-profit based in
> > San Francisco that was active from 2009-2015 and developed a few popular
> > programs for GNOME including the Shotwell photo manager and the Geary
> email
> > client, both of which now live in GNOME git.  These programs are
> copyrighted
> > by Yorba and a few external contributors and are licensed under the LGPL.
> >
> > Yorba has run out of funding and is winding down - in fact nobody has
> worked
> > there since around April 2015.  We now need to shut down the foundation
> > (which is a California non-profit corporation), but legally we can't do
> so
> > while it still holds any assets including the copyrights on its software,
> > which are considered intellectual property.
> >
> > We'd love to find some other free software organization that we can pass
> our
> > copyrights on to.  We would sell them for a nominal fee.  In theory the
> > copyright recipient could defend the LGPL licensing of these programs if
> > necessary (though I think the likelihood of such a necessity is low).
> >
> > My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights.  Is
> anyone
> > aware of any other free software organization that might be willing and
> able
> > to receive our copyrights?  Thanks -
>
> You might consider the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Software in the
> Public
> Interest (SPI), or the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC).
>
> - Josh Triplett
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Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[Josh Triplett]

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:55:49PM -0400, Adam Dingle wrote:
> As some of you know, I founded Yorba, a free software non-profit based in
> San Francisco that was active from 2009-2015 and developed a few popular
> programs for GNOME including the Shotwell photo manager and the Geary email
> client, both of which now live in GNOME git.  These programs are copyrighted
> by Yorba and a few external contributors and are licensed under the LGPL.
> 
> Yorba has run out of funding and is winding down - in fact nobody has worked
> there since around April 2015.  We now need to shut down the foundation
> (which is a California non-profit corporation), but legally we can't do so
> while it still holds any assets including the copyrights on its software,
> which are considered intellectual property.
> 
> We'd love to find some other free software organization that we can pass our
> copyrights on to.  We would sell them for a nominal fee.  In theory the
> copyright recipient could defend the LGPL licensing of these programs if
> necessary (though I think the likelihood of such a necessity is low).
> 
> My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights.  Is anyone
> aware of any other free software organization that might be willing and able
> to receive our copyrights?  Thanks -

You might consider the Free Software Foundation (FSF), Software in the Public
Interest (SPI), or the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC).

- Josh Triplett
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Re: Yorba Foundation looking to pass on copyrights

[James]

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Adam Dingle  wrote:
> My understanding is that GNOME itself does not hold copyrights.  Is anyone
> aware of any other free software organization that might be willing and able
> to receive our copyrights?  Thanks -

Obviously the FSF and maybe the https://sfconservancy.org/ might be up
to the task.

HTH and thanks for your efforts in funding Free Software while they lasted.

Cheers,
James
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