Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Hi, Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these issues (that have been years overdue)? It narrows basically down to the fact that fpc lacks developers and contributors, or do I miss something? Original

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/12/18 Florian Klämpfl flor...@freepascal.org: Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Hi, Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these issues (that have been years overdue)? It narrows basically down to the fact that fpc lacks developers and

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 18.12.2012 19:17, schrieb Vincent Snijders: 2012/12/18 Florian Klämpfl flor...@freepascal.org: Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: Hi, Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these issues (that have been years overdue)? It narrows basically down to the

[fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these issues (that have been years overdue)? Original Message Subject: Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:57:15 +0100 From: John Doe 1 To:

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: It seems to me, main target of FPC development today is compatibility to the modern Delphi language constructs, I don't want to go this route. And? Some people want to have these features (especially I want generic, I want helpers, I want closures

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sergei Gorelkin
17.12.2012 13:55, Sven Barth пишет: smart linking MSEide on 64 bit Linux is not possible with 2GB ram, Linking is a problem of ld, not of Free Pascal. ld was not designed for the workload we put on it (especially regarding smart linking). You could try however if the new internal ELF linker

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least the major platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) can make use of it and already the difference regarding procedure name

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 17/12/12 13:06, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: We should wait for and explore how the multi-target Delphi handles that. Probably not even implemented, because Delphi IDE is Windows only - and there are no plans to make a cross-platform IDE by Embarcadero. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.12.2012 14:06, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least the major platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) can make use of it and

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Sven Barth schrieb: Am 17.12.2012 14:06, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least the major platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X) can

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Sven Barth
Am 17.12.2012 16:20, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: Am 17.12.2012 14:06, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich: Sven Barth schrieb: still no Delphi-like packages... They are planned long term, but they are no cheesecake feature. We need to implement them in a way so that at least

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 17/12/12 15:29, Sven Barth wrote: I predict that we'll reach a point in the near(!) future where we won't (be able to) follow Delphi's lead anymore. And what a good day that will be. FPC will can innovate again. Delphi hasn't been leading for years, and Embarcadero is milking a dead

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 17/12/12 15:29, Sven Barth wrote: I predict that we'll reach a point in the near(!) future where we won't (be able to) follow Delphi's lead anymore. And what a good day that will be. FPC will can innovate again. Delphi hasn't been leading for years, and

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Sven Barth wrote: From what I see so far of the route that Embarcadero takes (complete reimplementation of compiler, sudden appearence of type helpers and things like zero based strings) I predict that we'll reach a point in the near(!) future where we won't (be able to) follow Delphi's lead

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