Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:38 PM Martin Frb via fpc-devel wrote: > As I said, I do not know, what is currently provided by the Fpc > "combined 32-/64-bit download". > No Idea, if any of the fpc/ppc executable in this download are already > 64-bit. It provides 32-bit fpc (so it builds for 32-bit

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

If it's actually now somehow the case that an offer to provide Win64 builds would be refused though, I guess maybe I'll look into hosting them myself somewhere else? Although again I don't get why it would be fine for Linux to have a zillion archives for different configurations here:

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 12/01/2022 11:51, Marco van de Voort via fpc-devel wrote: On 12-1-2022 11:38, Ben Grasset via fpc-devel wrote: If it's actually now somehow the case that an offer to provide Win64 builds would be refused though, I guess maybe I'll look into hosting them myself somewhere else? Although

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 2022-01-12 13:38, Martin Frb via fpc-devel wrote: On 12/01/2022 11:51, Marco van de Voort via fpc-devel wrote: On 12-1-2022 11:38, Ben Grasset via fpc-devel wrote: If it's actually now somehow the case that an offer to provide Win64 builds would be refused though, I guess maybe I'll look

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 3:46 AM Sven Barth via fpc-devel < fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > Ben Grasset via fpc-devel schrieb am > So., 19. Dez. 2021, 08:33: > >> To be very clear, to me, this is absolutely nothing more than just a >> matter of building the compiler completely normally.

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 12-1-2022 11:38, Ben Grasset via fpc-devel wrote: If it's actually now somehow the case that an offer to provide Win64 builds would be refused though, I guess maybe I'll look into hosting them myself somewhere else? Although again I don't get why it would be fine for Linux to have a

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 1/13/22 07:44, Ben Grasset via fpc-devel wrote: It does work on 64-bit Windows, it's just technically deprecated. Beyond that, the 80-bit Extended type dates back to the mid 1980s, The year 1980, not the mid 1980s. But the x86 family dates back to 1978. Most x86_64 instructions are the

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 1/13/22 02:31, Ben Grasset via fpc-devel wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 7:38 AM Martin Frb via fpc-devel wrote: The downloads provided by Lazarus are also NOT a "pure, native 64-bit download". Only the "fpc.exe" and the non-cross "ppc64.exe" are native 64 bit. As I

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 13/01/2022 01:31, Ben Grasset via fpc-devel wrote: Isn't this specifically the kind of thing that the `FPC_SOFT_FPUX80` define solves? It's indeed what it's intended to solve, but currently it still generates different values compared to an actual x87 fpu. Jonas

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 12/01/2022 13:55, Tomas Hajny via fpc-devel wrote: - The problem is *NOT* a native 64 bit "ppcx64.exe"  ?    => 64 bit compiled targets don't require "extended" from the ppc, as they themself wont have support for it? Wrong - applies only to the Win64 target, whereas e.g. 64-bit Linux

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 12/01/2022 17:31, Tomas Hajny via fpc-devel wrote: On 2022-01-12 16:03, Martin Frb via fpc-devel wrote: But, if any change to the code (not even necessarily a functional change) would allow the compiler to do those calculations at compile time, then the value changes. And the entire

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 2022-01-12 16:03, Martin Frb via fpc-devel wrote: On 12/01/2022 13:55, Tomas Hajny via fpc-devel wrote: - The problem is *NOT* a native 64 bit "ppcx64.exe"  ?    => 64 bit compiled targets don't require "extended" from the ppc, as they themself wont have support for it? Wrong - applies

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

Martin Frb via fpc-devel schrieb am Mi., 12. Jan. 2022, 18:06: > On 12/01/2022 17:31, Tomas Hajny via fpc-devel wrote: > > On 2022-01-12 16:03, Martin Frb via fpc-devel wrote: > >> > >> > >> But, if any change to the code (not even necessarily a functional > >> change) would allow the compiler

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 12/01/2022 18:48, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: [2] From the users view "random", in that the user can not predict all the factors that will affect the selection. Currently the user must be prepared for the latter. No, it is deterministic, it's simply different from a

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

Am 12.01.2022 um 19:26 schrieb Martin Frb via fpc-devel: On 12/01/2022 18:48, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: [2] From the users view "random", in that the user can not predict all the factors that will affect the selection. Currently the user must be prepared for the latter.

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022, Mattias Gaertner via fpc-devel wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:20:34 +0100 Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: [..] When compiling from a target supporting Extended to one only supporting Double there isn't a loss of precision when calculating values at compile time. The

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 7:38 AM Martin Frb via fpc-devel < fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > > The downloads provided by Lazarus are also NOT a "pure, native 64-bit > download". Only the "fpc.exe" and the non-cross "ppc64.exe" are native > 64 bit. > > As I said, I do not know, what is

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:20:34 +0100 Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: >[..] > When compiling from a target supporting Extended to one only > supporting Double there isn't a loss of precision when calculating > values at compile time. The other way around however, there *is* and > that is the more

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 8:08 AM Bart via fpc-devel < fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org> wrote: > It provides 32-bit fpc (so it builds for 32-bit windows by default) > and the win32->win64 crosscompiler in a single installer. > In Lazarus that means that you can target Win32 (default) and Win64 >

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 1/13/22 05:59, Travis Siegel via fpc-devel wrote: On 1/12/2022 5:20 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: When compiling from a target supporting Extended to one only supporting Double there isn't a loss of precision when calculating values at compile time. The other way around however,

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

On 1/12/2022 5:20 PM, Sven Barth via fpc-devel wrote: When compiling from a target supporting Extended to one only supporting Double there isn't a loss of precision when calculating values at compile time. The other way around however, there *is* and that is the more crucial problem.

Re: [fpc-devel] I've asked this before, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough that time: what do I *personally*, specifically need to do to ensure that a native Windows 64-bit build winds up on the FPC

It does work on 64-bit Windows, it's just technically deprecated. Beyond that, the 80-bit Extended type dates back to the mid 1980s, and ran on a particular part of the processor (the FPU, or Floating Point Unit), in such a way that it was able to provide a somewhat higher amount of precision