Ludo Brands wrote:
On 27/11/2012 10:23, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Has the Mantis version or setup changed over the last few days? The
page to report a new bug is displaying blank on older browsers,
although display/editing pages are OK.
When you are viewing All Projects and click on Report
of as is provided by
the non-GNU unix (e.g. Solaris and IRIX) provided by the
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and dynamic arrays? What about (references to) objects?
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, and COM interfaces and dynamic arrays (maybe I forget some)
Classes and objects are not.
By which I presume that (references to) objects are not set to nil, in
the same way that an integer or pointer wouldn't be set to zero or nil.
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Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Pierre Free Pascal wrote:
Hi Mark,
do you use my patch for mips to
handle stack?
Without it, the backtrace doesn't work...
The bad thing is that I submitted it to gdb-patches,
but it was refused, I was told that $fp should be equal to $sp
according to ABI
detect
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:46:54 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd markmll.fpc-de...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:
I've just had a slight problem compiling Lazarus where FPC was reporting
this:
main.pp(5001,1) Fatal: Syntax error, BEGIN expected but shl found
The reason was that I'd
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same one as
1.0.x did :-)
Do you have a system with such a CPU? If so
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I would like to run it on the real thing. 68040/40 the same
one
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 17:47, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
On 08.12.2012 11:42, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 19.10.2012 15:53, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
68K is alive thanks to Coldfire etc.
Well. I
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Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
What's the Programmer's Workbench?
Shell, assemblers and so on according to Wikipedia- I'll know more when
I've got it installed. Basically, all the stuff that Apple has always
sworn their customers didn't need. At one
/local/src/fpc/fpc-trunk/rtl/macos'
Allowing that system.pp ends at line 570, I presume that something after
line 481 is confusing the compiler. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 10.12.2012 12:15, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
I'm currently cross-compiling the MacOS RTL for PPC on a PC. I've
fixed some trivial issues that had crept in since this was last
maintained, some of which affect other targets, but am stuck at the
errors below.
/usr/local
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 10.12.2012 12:15, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
I'm currently cross-compiling the MacOS RTL for PPC on a PC. I've
fixed some trivial issues that had crept in since this was last
maintained, some of which affect other targets, but am stuck at the
errors below.
/usr/local
utilities, but the responsibility for
getting that bit right is entirely with me.
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 10.12.2012 17:24, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 10.12.2012 12:15, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
I'm currently cross-compiling the MacOS RTL for PPC on a PC. I've
fixed some trivial issues that had crept in since this was last
maintained, some of which
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Not necessarily. It seems to be related to something external.
OK, I get that now that I'm looking at the functions etc.
You could try the following by adjusting the compiler source: before
the internalerror (in compiler/powerpc/agppcmpw.pas)
Noting
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
So I suppose that the next thing to do is to (use Lazarus to) look at
the conditions earlier in the compiler where AT_NONE is being inserted
in the list.
It's putting a significant number of AT_NONE entries into the table, and
the first one it tries to take out
to see if there was handling
for AT_NONE in the ones that were working, but couldn't see anything
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Sergei Gorelkin wrote:
30.11.2012 1:46, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Running the program using the modified GDB, I get the same as before:
0 1markMLl@pye-dev-07d:~$ which gdb
/usr/local/bin/gdb
0 1markMLl@pye-dev-07d:~$ gdb /usr/local/bin/ppcmips
GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0.1-debian
..
(gdb) set arg -h
, and Embarcadero is milking a dead cow!!!
Embarcadero has a dead cow propped up in the barn, and is telling
everybody that they still milk it.
Summed up eloquently by Ms Stob
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/11/verity_stob_sons_of_kahn/
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.
Right now I'd be extremely wary about pinning my livelihood to Java,
lest Oracle succeed in locking it down as their personal property. I
can't suggest any alternative, but I'd suggest watching IBM's position
carefully since they're undoubtedly thinking the same thing.
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out the details of the compiler etc.
Apart from that, happy Midwinter Solstice everyone.
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starting
point if somebody later has a related problem.
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to start with something known to be a letter, or something
not known to be a digit or reserved character?
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I've got on the boil- I'm trying to limit myself
to machines that I've actually got in my museum. I've got SGI although
only running IRIX at the moment, little-endian hardware remains a
problem and in practical terms I'm not sure I can put very much more
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when some CPUs- IA-64 etc.- and
OSes could usefully be moved into an attic subtree.
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 25.12.2012 11:32, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Although I think the time is approaching when some CPUs- IA-64 etc.- and
OSes could usefully be moved into an attic subtree.
They aren't compiled anyway, so they don't affect the compiler's
performance negatively.
So it does
that that space is also available
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 25.12.2012 13:24, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Agreed. But combinations that don't compile meaningfully (e.g. the
compiler targeting IA-64) or at all without at least backported patches
(various RTLs including MacOS Classic, Amiga etc.) could IMO usefully be
in compiler/attic
of cache coherence on some MIPS systems).
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Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sergei Gorelkin wrote:
This was caused by insufficient alignment of Double-typed temp
variables, fixed in r23146.
Moreover, it appeared that function UnixToWinAge wasn't doing anything
useful since year 2005, so it was removed in r23145, making
FindFirst/FindNext
: online
CPU4: online
CPU5: online
CPU8: online
CPU9: online
CPU10: online
CPU11: online
CPU12: online
CPU13: online
CPU14: online
CPU15: online
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microc...@zoho.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 07:01:08PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Ewald wrote:
Now, for the implementation of ProcessorCount I've got code here that
reads the amount of processor cores from `/proc/cpuinfo` (linux only I
think) and some assembly code [asmmode att
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Ludo Brands wrote:
On 27/12/2012 23:06, Ewald wrote:
Oh, and the important part: The function has been tested on a Core 2 Duo
and an Intel i7, and works correctly. If someone would be so kind to
test it on some other CPU's that would be great! [I'm not 100
Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said:
cards and has been told to shut one down for maintenance. Solaris
definitely does this on SPARC, I don't know about its position on x86,
and I don't know about Linux's general position.
Also somebody needs to check
(if it is assigned
to an 8-bit constant/variable like ansistring)
(also just my understanding of what Jonas wrote)
That's how I read it as well. In which case, is #A3 16-bit Unicode
(representing the UK £ Sterling) or malformed UTF-8 (should be #c2#a3)?
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point was that I neither had video capability on the
host, nor did I start up a desktop using vnc, instead I tunneled Lazarus
over ssh and found performance adequate (taking into account the
severely limited memory by today's standards).
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 11.01.2013 12:02, schrieb Michael Schnell:
On 01/11/2013 11:51 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
My recollection is that I've had Lazarus running on a Slug,
including gdb. The important point was that I neither had video
capability on the host, nor did I start up a desktop
is called) plus a widget set (such as QT) on the QNAP NA
device.
I can't imagine how that should be possible on the tiny MMU-less Slug.
A Slug /does/ have an MMU: otherwise how do you think it manages to run
a standard Linux distro?
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agree :)
I agree. It's no big deal waiting an hour for a complete FPC build
provided that it's known to be a good release, or a couple of minutes
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are noting new:
Xnest does exactly that, and there's also a standard dummy which is most
often used to allow a display manager (gdm or whatever) to run headless.
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 01/15/2013 12:29 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I was routinely able to run the server-end of VNC (i.e. the code that
runs on the same machine as the app) on a Slug,
I even do have a Slug for testing (the one that recently was replaced by
the more powerful QNAP)
How
SkyDiablo wrote:
Am 15.01.2013 11:46, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
SkyDiablo wrote:
hi ho,
i'm back again ;) i have try this:
http://www.mail-archive.com/fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org/msg27336.html
but my Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS can't run the ppcmips binary?
$ chmod +x ppcmips
$ ./ppcmips
on SPARC which particularly affect
graphics-related stuff, I'd strongly suggest that you sniff around and
find out what you can do on the existing OS before considering an upgrade.
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I do is via
shell sessions anyway, I've never felt any need to put time into that.
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1m0.324s
Job count: 12
real0m16.599s
user1m13.093s
sys 0m59.652s
Job count: 13
real0m16.584s
user1m13.557s
sys 0m59.536s
Job count: 14
real0m16.713s
user1m12.629s
sys 1m0.624s
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 19.01.2013 11:54, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 07.03.2012 13:51, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys:
On 7 March 2012 12:27, Marco van de Voort wrote:
IIRC add FPMAKEOPT='-T 3' (3= number of paralel threads)
What version did this start working with- 2.6
with the requirement of having development
packages ** , you should be able to compile Lazarus.
* libgpm-dev libncurses5-dev
** libgtk2.0-dev plus possible dependencies.
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of the number of ARM variants.
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In trunk it uses ctypes. I think in a lot of cases people using this
will also be pulling in cmem, which could fix/hide some problems.
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Michael Schnell wrote:
I don't see why the problem should be related to the target (other than
in fact the crti provided is buggy which I esteem rather unlikely).
Except for the possible case where the OS and standard libraries have
been built to not support dynamic linkage.
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if
he doesn't like them.
Something like
for a in a index i do
falls squarely into the latter category: it's messy to parse, worse to
read, and is completely unlike any existing language idioms.
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Sven Barth wrote:
On 25.01.2013 21:10, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Something like
for a in a index i do
falls squarely into the latter category: it's messy to parse, worse to
read, and is completely unlike any existing language idioms.
I definitely have to disagree here (while still
but this would
save having to use per-element assignment or an intermediate array.
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b:=(1,2);
a:=b[0]; // a = 1 after this.
end;
Iff a tuple contains elements of the same type and if tuples with this
restriction are compatible with arrays, wouldn't this behaviour be implicit?
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-of-tuples.
type TPoint= tuple of Double;
TRect= tuple of TPoint;
var rect: TRect;
begin
rect := TRect(TPoint(100.0));
OK, so that's a zero-size rectangle but I'm trying to demonstrate
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translated from one language to another.
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shown by the unix time command.
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: TFingerRequest=
TFingerRequest(LeftPane.Items[GreenBranch].Data).Description do begin
desc.Append(Custom.Format(green_1, []));
desc.Append(Custom.Format(green_2, []));
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coming from certain
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 05.03.2013 10:14, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Marco van de Voort wrote:
But even when in theory (which I btw don't even want to consider),
you are
equivalent to C in this way, it basically means disabling the unit
system,
and users must start to manual maintain
Henry Vermaak wrote:
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 09:41:37AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 05.03.2013 10:14, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
But on the other hand, if an application programmer could
disable FPC's unit handling and use make -j instead, choosing
to pay the price
extremely difficult to improve the cache
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Henry Vermaak wrote:
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 07:26:19PM +0100, Daniël Mantione wrote:
Op Tue, 5 Mar 2013, schreef Mark Morgan Lloyd:
I've not had an opportunity to try this, but my understanding is
that on a Sun E10K with something like 256 400MHz processors the
Linux kernel built in around
draw(p: point);
begin
end;
begin
draw(origin);
draw((X:0.0; Y:0.0))
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if it really did distribute work properly.
I note FPC's undocumented -Sv option from earlier discussion, but it
appears not to like the 2D array so compilation fails at the subtraction.
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anything from him here since last year but he posted to debian-mips a
couple of days ago.
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to differ in some way from standard mips/mipseb). If I had time
I'd put OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a Qemu system and take a look at it, but
I'm afraid I don't.
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a distinct target?
Noting Michel's Linux is a trojan comment, would the developers be
confident using the FPC RTL in a (single-threaded) safety-critical
application? What about the FCL?
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Michael Schnell wrote:
On 07/03/2013 10:11 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Do you have any URLs etc. for the BBB in this context?
This has close to nothing to do with the BeagleBone board: it's just a
processor feature. The BeagleBone board in fact supports it as several
pins of the chips
Michael Schnell wrote:
On 07/03/2013 10:11 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Do you have any URLs etc. for the BBB in this context?
This has close to nothing to do with the BeagleBone board: it's just a
processor feature. The BeagleBone board in fact supports it as several
pins of the chips
a kernel module to handle the loading, but the
sticking point might be that each coprocessor has a limited code space
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Tiger2x64_24(const raw: array of string): string;
it requires that this be made contiguous by // or similar, and even then
displays a spurious (Source) after each comment line.
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Unicode glyph i.e.
like a Wiki marks external links?
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opinion is that the only achievable goal is to
first concentrate on ASCII, and later port to EBCDIC since this could
result in significant changes to the compiler frontend etc. However,
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supported @ only (IIRC).
Minor warning: in FPC etc. @ is the address of operator.
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 24.07.2013 12:37, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 24 Jul 2013, at 03:41, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
- Stanford Pascal (my version) allows (. .) and (/ /) as substitutes
for [ ]
FPC also supports (. and .). It doesn't support (/ and /) though.
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is prefixed.
Once that worked you can install the compiler using
make crossinstall CPU_TARGET=i386 OS_TARGET=linux
INSTALL_PREFIX=c:\wherever\fpc\should\be\installed
Is it possible to ask the makefile for the true names of the supported
targets?
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 25.07.2013 12:10, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Sven Barth wrote:
On 24.07.2013 16:36, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
Then I built the RTL for linux, which also worked successfully, as far
as I saw,
but when compiling with -Tlinux, I now get the following message:
How did you build
been built on it
from source since something like 2.0.
Any and all suggestions appreciated.
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Pierre Free Pascal wrote:
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Objet : [fpc-devel] Compiling for libgdb
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Fatal: Compilation aborted
An unhandled exception occurred at $001E61C0 :
EDivByZero : Division by zero
$001E61C0 TCGASSIGNMENTNODE__PASS_GENERATE_CODE, line 785 of ncgld.pas
At this point: what's actually running, i.e. what command should I apply
gdb to to get
removing the -O- has no beneficial effect :-)
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at $001E61C0 :
EDivByZero : Division by zero
$001E61C0 TCGASSIGNMENTNODE__PASS_GENERATE_CODE, line 785 of
ncgld.pas
At this point: what's actually running, i.e. what command should I
apply gdb to to get a decent backtrace?
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Sven Barth wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 22:22, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Sven Barth wrote:
If I revert to 2.6.2 and run ppcsparc under gdb, I get this as a
backtrace:
Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
0x001e61c0 in TCGASSIGNMENTNODE__PASS_GENERATE_CODE
(this=0xf5d6abe0
inexpert eye that there's a default of 128
dummies so I'd not expect the record to be empty.
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Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 08.08.2013 22:22, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Sven Barth wrote:
If I revert to 2.6.2 and run ppcsparc under gdb, I get this as a
backtrace:
Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
0x001e61c0 in TCGASSIGNMENTNODE__PASS_GENERATE_CODE
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