Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
ik wrote: The only problem that I found, is that sometimes the hardware you have using qemu virtualization is not suited for some of the linux distro you wish to use. Qemu still requires gcc v3. Debian Etch released a version compiled with v4 which was badly broken, I've ended up running a

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-30 Thread Vincent Snijders
Michael Schnell schreef: With the wonderful world of emulators and virtual pc products like VirtualBox, VMWare and Virtual PC 2007 ... VirtualBox, VMWare, XEN etc are no emulators but virtualization managers. If they would emulate a CPU they would be by far too slow to be useful. They just

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Schnell
If that were the case, how can one run (virtualized) x86_64 (64bits) assembler on a i386 (32 bits) processor? Running Compiler Software on processor A that creates object code for processor B but itself is compiled for processor A: Cross-Compiling I think qemu can is and therefore qemu

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Schnell
I don't know QEMU really, just that it gets used inside the VirtualBox product. How did you get to know this ? I only can imagine that this is true for the initial execution of the client OS that is done in an emulated way to detect and replace critical instructions before they are

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 30/01/2008, Michael Schnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know QEMU really, just that it gets used inside the VirtualBox product. How did you get to know this ? I only can imagine that this is true for the initial execution of the client OS that is done in an emulated way to

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-30 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 30 Jan 2008, at 10:54, Michael Schnell wrote: I don't know QEMU really, just that it gets used inside the VirtualBox product. How did you get to know this ? I only can imagine that this is true for the initial execution of the client OS that is done in an emulated way to detect and

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-30 Thread Marc Weustink
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi I don't own a 64bit pc. With the wonderful world of emulators and virtual pc products like VirtualBox, VMWare and Virtual PC 2007 I thought, why can't my 32bit Intel P4 emulate a 64bit CPU via software. If it works, that would be cool. :) If it works it might be

[fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-29 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi I don't own a 64bit pc. With the wonderful world of emulators and virtual pc products like VirtualBox, VMWare and Virtual PC 2007 I thought, why can't my 32bit Intel P4 emulate a 64bit CPU via software. If it works, that would be cool. :) If it works it might be slow, but I don't care, it's

Re: [fpc-devel] QEMU for 64-bit FPC testing?

2008-01-29 Thread ik
Hi, Yes you can emulate all of the listed CPU's, it just have different executable names. qemu-system-x86_64 for what you require. The only problem that I found, is that sometimes the hardware you have using qemu virtualization is not suited for some of the linux distro you wish to use. Ido On