Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-14 Thread mm

Neil Graham a écrit :

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:10 +0700, Bee wrote:

Maybe we should start some kind of code legality check. Like what had 
been done by ReactOS a few months ago against Windows' code. This tool 
might helps us review FPC's and Lazarus' code against Delphi code (or 
other as well?).


Wouldn't it be more efficient to write to Borland (or whatever they call
themselves this week).

say something like (but not exactly like, I'm just rambling here);

we have endeavoured to produce code that does not violate any
copyrights, but as a collaborative project it is difficult to guarantee 
the work of all contributors.  We would like to arrange a liaison in

order that should any copyright violations be discovered we can correct
the situation as soon as possible.


It may mean an easy and acceptable solution.  They may just say no.
Then again it may be like drawing the gaze of the eye of mordor.


I don't think it is a good idea. In case of a court sue, it could be
used by Borland lawyers, See, at that time they already acknowledged
the possibility to be guilty.

I strongly doubt that Borland/Codegear will sue the FPC team (even in
case of copyright infringement). It would be a very bad advertisement
campaign. In fact, I think the best for them is to do what they are
doing:
* A free Turbo Delphi (so that beginners make use of it instead of
  using Lazarus/FPC).
* Fuzzy threats like the one reported in this thread (so that
  companies make use of Delphi instead of Lazarus/FPC). Here, the
  threat is much more efficient than the attack.

mm
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Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-14 Thread Neil Graham

On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 16:05 +0100, mm wrote:
 Neil Graham a écrit :
  
  It may mean an easy and acceptable solution.  They may just say no.
  Then again it may be like drawing the gaze of the eye of mordor.
 
 I don't think it is a good idea. In case of a court sue, it could be
 used by Borland lawyers, See, at that time they already acknowledged
 the possibility to be guilty.
 

Yeah, I thought about that.  It's just sad to become part of the same
world where hospitals refuse to give out medical records to patients in
case they are sued.

[sigh] remember when talking about things was a solution.

[fairly off topic now I must say]

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[fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
The software used between the Linux and Minix case was SIM.  It seems
to be quite cleaver software and hope we can use it too..

quote
The software similarity tester SIM version 2.12
[ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/dick/similarity_tester] was used for source
code comparison.
/quote

I got that information from this website:
  http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/codecomparison/alexey.html


Regards,
  - Graeme -


On 13/11/2007, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list.
 It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve
 Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially
 Delphi 4  5.

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Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Bee

The software used between the Linux and Minix case was SIM. It seems
to be quite cleaver software and hope we can use it too..


Maybe we should start some kind of code legality check. Like what had 
been done by ReactOS a few months ago against Windows' code. This tool 
might helps us review FPC's and Lazarus' code against Delphi code (or 
other as well?).


-Bee-

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http://beeography.wordpress.com
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Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Neil Graham

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:10 +0700, Bee wrote:

 Maybe we should start some kind of code legality check. Like what had 
 been done by ReactOS a few months ago against Windows' code. This tool 
 might helps us review FPC's and Lazarus' code against Delphi code (or 
 other as well?).

Wouldn't it be more efficient to write to Borland (or whatever they call
themselves this week).

say something like (but not exactly like, I'm just rambling here);

we have endeavoured to produce code that does not violate any
copyrights, but as a collaborative project it is difficult to guarantee 
the work of all contributors.  We would like to arrange a liaison in
order that should any copyright violations be discovered we can correct
the situation as soon as possible.


It may mean an easy and acceptable solution.  They may just say no.
Then again it may be like drawing the gaze of the eye of mordor.


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Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Bee

It may mean an easy and acceptable solution. They may just say no.


It's the very possibility since they think we're the 'bad' guys. ;)

-Bee-

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