Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2017-11-30 23:55, kardan wrote: In your case it would be probably enough to sha256sum $FILES > SHA256SUMS.txt gpg --sign SHA256SUMS.txt Yup, that's exactly what I had in mind too. Thanks for sharing. Regards, Graeme ___ fpc-pascal maillist -

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread kardan
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 23:26:31 +0100 "Tomas Hajny" wrote: > Checksums may indeed be created / calculated rather easily. However, > that is not enough. The checksums must get to the end user in secured > way as well, otherwise it makes no sense. What is the appropriate >

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2017-11-30 23:35, Tomas Hajny wrote: Obviously, there are more secure mechanisms (let's take Debian packages with their signatures as an example), but these require more overhead (especially with different release makers for different Not every release maker needs to create there own

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2017-11-30 23:35, Tomas Hajny wrote: Sorry, I know that this is being done, but I don't see how is that more secure than just downloading the file via HTTPS. Not all files are downloaded via a secure protocol like HTTPS. That's true for FreeBSD, Linux and I would guess even for Free

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Fri, December 1, 2017 00:18, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2017-11-30 22:26, Tomas Hajny wrote: >> Checksums may indeed be created / calculated rather easily. However, >> that >> is not enough. The checksums must get to the end user in secured way as >> well, otherwise it makes no sense. > > >

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2017-11-30 22:26, Tomas Hajny wrote: Checksums may indeed be created / calculated rather easily. However, that is not enough. The checksums must get to the end user in secured way as well, otherwise it makes no sense. As the saying goes... Take a page from the playbook of FreeBSD or any

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Thu, November 30, 2017 22:46, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2017-11-30 14:47, Tomas Hajny wrote: >> Sourceforge provides HTTPS access, that should be safe enough. Apart >> from >> that - no, checksums are not being created as part of the release >> process >> at the moment. >> >> Tomas > > That

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2017-11-30 14:47, Tomas Hajny wrote: Sourceforge provides HTTPS access, that should be safe enough. Apart from that - no, checksums are not being created as part of the release process at the moment. Tomas That really should be fixed. As someone that has many many releases is my years, in

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC attributes / annotations support

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2017-11-29 23:37, Marcos Douglas B. Santos wrote: I believe that the real problem is to find Object Pascal programmers comparing with other languages. True, there is less, but we (our company) still manages to find and employ those with suitable Object Pascal skills. We have around 50

Re: [fpc-pascal] fpcup / fpcupdeluxe

2017-11-30 Thread kardan
Hi Paul, On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:37:25 -0500 Paul Breneman wrote: > Will fpcupdeluxe work on console, or is a GUI required? fpcupdelux fails without DISPLAY. > See fpcup usage here: > http://wiki.freepascal.org/Small_Virtual_Machines#Debian_console_virtual_machine

Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-30 Thread Paul Breneman
On 11/30/2017 04:55 AM, kardan wrote: I guess its better to go for fpcupdeluxe these days? On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:57:54 +0100 kardan wrote: Is it possible to tell fpcgui a folder with an already checked out svn trunk? I cannot afford to download 1.1 gb again. use git-svn

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Thu, November 30, 2017 15:32, kardan wrote: > Wow, both of you managed to avoid my actual question. :) > > On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:00:07 +0100 > kardan wrote: > >> How can I verify those downloads with shasum or gpg fingerprints)? >> (FTP and HTTP seem not to be the safest

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread kardan
Wow, both of you managed to avoid my actual question. :) On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:00:07 +0100 kardan wrote: > How can I verify those downloads with shasum or gpg fingerprints)? > (FTP and HTTP seem not to be the safest ways these days.) Kardan

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Pierre Muller said: > > Thanks for the release in progress! > > Please also update > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/readme.txt/download > > I did this a few minutes ago. > > But I am not sure all releases available on ftp are also available on >

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Pierre Muller
Le 30/11/2017 à 13:00, kardan a écrit : > Thanks for the release in progress! > Please also update > https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/readme.txt/download I did this a few minutes ago. But I am not sure all releases available on ftp are also available on SourceForge...

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, kardan said: > How can I verify those downloads with shasum or gpg fingerprints)? (FTP > and HTTP seem not to be the safest ways these days.) > > > Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at: > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3_0_4 > >

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread kardan
Thanks for the release in progress! How can I verify those downloads with shasum or gpg fingerprints)? (FTP and HTTP seem not to be the safest ways these days.) > Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at: > http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3_0_4 "T.B.D." >

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Mattias Gaertner said: > > Finally, the Free Pascal 3.0.4 release is available from our FTP servers. > > > > Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at: > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3_0_4 > > That should be >

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Mattias Gaertner said: > > and sourceforge > > > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/ > > This > https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/Mac%20OS%20X/3.0.4/ > contains a fpc 3.0.5 as well. > > Is this on purpose? Yes, ios comes from a special

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC attributes / annotations support

2017-11-30 Thread Marcos Douglas B. Santos
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 4:23 AM, LacaK wrote: > >>> the idea) a rewrite of a multi-million lines of code project into C#, >>> rather >>> than move to open source development tools where they can keep the huge >>> code >>> base, the same language and reuse the same development

Re: [fpc-pascal] [fpc-devel] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR)
Hi, On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Marco van de Voort wrote: > For Downloads, please use the FTP server at > > ftp://freepascal.stack.nl/pub/fpc/dist/3.0.4/ Not sure why Marco decided to redirect everything to the stack.nl mirror as primary source in his announcement, but everything should be on

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:04:31 +0100 (CET) mar...@stack.nl (Marco van de Voort) wrote: >[...] > and sourceforge > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/ This https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/Mac%20OS%20X/3.0.4/ contains a fpc 3.0.5 as well. Is this on purpose?

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:04:31 +0100 (CET) mar...@stack.nl (Marco van de Voort) wrote: > Hello, > > Finally, the Free Pascal 3.0.4 release is available from our FTP servers. > > Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at: > http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3_0_4

Re: [fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 11:04:31 +0100 (CET) mar...@stack.nl (Marco van de Voort) wrote: > Hello, > > Finally, the Free Pascal 3.0.4 release is available from our FTP servers. > > Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at: > http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3_0_4 >

[fpc-pascal] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Marco van de Voort
Hello, Finally, the Free Pascal 3.0.4 release is available from our FTP servers. Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at: http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3_0_4 For Downloads, please use the FTP server at ftp://freepascal.stack.nl/pub/fpc/dist/3.0.4/ and

Re: [fpc-pascal] MSEide+MSEgui 4.6 for FPC 3.0.4

2017-11-30 Thread kardan
I guess its better to go for fpcupdeluxe these days? On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:57:54 +0100 kardan wrote: > Is it possible to tell fpcgui a folder with an already checked out svn > trunk? I cannot afford to download 1.1 gb again. use git-svn with existing trunk folder