RE: Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-13 Thread Phil Heron
Hooray - it worked! Thankyou very much for the hint, Denise. Phil Heron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise L. Moss-Fritch Sent: 12 September 2007 16:03 To: Phil Heron; 'framers' Subject: RE: Frame 7.2 and Vista Phil, I have not

Re: Numbering steams and flows: solved

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:13 +0100 12/9/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout is a flow property rather than a page property, so I must use a B flow for the 2-c material. My question is, is there any way of preventing numbering streams from restarting when the flow

Re: FrameMaker and Illustrator EPS files

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:34 -0500 12/9/07, Peter Gold wrote: Did you try exporting to PDF? Sometimes the Fill None doesn't appear on screen in FM, but does work in PDF. Yes, I did, Peter. All attempts to get this frame to disappear in both FrameMaker and the resulting PDF have so far failed, including: .

FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Christiane Crety (CC)
Hi Framers, I just got a new PC, reinstalled FrameMaker 7.2 and looked at Adobes site to get the latest updates. However, it seems that you cannot get updates earlier than 7.2b144, and 7.2b144 requires that you have 7.2b128. Anyone knows how to deal with this? Thanks! Best regards, Christiane

Re: FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Christiane, as far as I know, there are only two patches for FM 7.2. So just install 7.2b144 first and then 7.2p158 and you should be fine. You can find 7.2p158 here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332 Kind regards -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect

RE: FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Christiane Crety (CC)
Hi, Yves, Thanks, but that's what I tried to do. I got a message saying that the 7.2b144 update requires that you have 7.2b128 installed first (which I don't). Christiane From: Yves Barbion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:24

Re: Memory Leak

2007-09-13 Thread Miriam Lezak
Kelly -- Are you running Frame with any plugins? Track Changes destabilized Framemaker for me. Giving conditional text a really good workout can also make it less stable (I had 12 conditions going). I got into the habit of saving about every 90 seconds. Miriam - Original Message

FW: FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Christiane Crety (CC)
Oops, sorry! It seems the update (7.2b144) was installed after all, even though I got the message that it couldn't! So now I'll go on to 7.2p158... :-) Thanks! Christiane From: Yves Barbion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:24 PM

Re: Numbering steams and flows: solved

2007-09-13 Thread Stuart Rogers
Steve Rickaby wrote: I am still, however, surprised that number streams reset at the start of a flow within the same document, although I suppose it makes some sort of sense. It makes a lot of sense if you suppose that the original purpose of multiple flows in a document was to allow FM to

Re: Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-13 Thread Stuart Rogers
Lin Surasky wrote: You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the row

Re: Numbering steams and flows: solved

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:14 -0400 13/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: Steve wrote I am still, however, surprised that number streams reset at the start of a flow within the same document, although I suppose it makes some sort of sense. It makes a lot of sense if you suppose that the original purpose of multiple flows

Re: Framers Digest, Vol 23, Issue 13

2007-09-13 Thread rradcliffe
Steve, Check the Illustrator help under the Transparency headings. We do not use this feature, but glancing through, it looks like the help should answer your questions about placing one graphic over another. 4.5 MB sounds like a large file size for your background file, Not knowing your

Re: Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:01 -0400 13/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: Just to ensure absolute clarity: Richard said to double-check the Table Cell tab of the *Paragraph* designer; you say you checked the table definition, which implies the Table designer. You have checked both places, right? Just to underline what

RE: FM 7.1 to 7.2 Upgrade

2007-09-13 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Folks, I'm running 7.1p579 and looking for a 7.2 upgrade to no avail. From 7.1, must I go all the way to 8.0?...thanks, Kelly. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe

Re: FM 7.1 to 7.2 Upgrade

2007-09-13 Thread Art Campbell
Might be able to round up an old upgrade on E-bay or something, but 7.x is no longer supported. Adobe only supports the current rev of a product, so if you want an official release, 8 is it. Why wouldn't you want to upgrade to the current release? Art On 9/13/07, Kelly McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: FM 7.1 to 7.2 Upgrade

2007-09-13 Thread Fred Ridder
As far as Adobe is concerned, yes. As soon as 8.0 was released, they stopped selling 7.2 upgrades. This is pretty normal for application software unless there is some external issue like OS compatibility (i.e. software companies may have to keep old versions alive if the new version won't work

Re: Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:20 -0400 12/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: Steve Rickaby wrote: I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot use tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into 2-c already contains tables. As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout is a flow property

Building a List of Figures

2007-09-13 Thread DONALD Brian
Hi I am building a List of Figures for a book that uses these elements: - Section, Chapter, Figure, FigureNo. When the LOF has been updated, the LOF is missing the Section Number, although the tag is [present in the dropdown menu options. Can anyone assist with a reason why this might occur and

structured Frame

2007-09-13 Thread Marcus Carr
Fred Ridder wrote: > Marcus, Marcus, Marcus. > In the abstract, I completely agree with what you say. My > postings in this thread, though, have been written to address > the specific context of the original poster, who is a sole writer > at a company which has a significant body of unstructured

Frame 7.2 and Vista

2007-09-13 Thread Phil Heron
Hooray - it worked! Thankyou very much for the hint, Denise. Phil Heron -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+phil.heron=coda@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+phil.heron=coda.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denise L. Moss-Fritch Sent: 12 September 2007 16:03

Numbering steams and flows: solved

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:13 +0100 12/9/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: >As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout is a flow >property rather than a page property, so I must use a B flow for the 2-c >material. > >My question is, is there any way of preventing numbering streams from >restarting when

FrameMaker and Illustrator EPS files

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:34 -0500 12/9/07, Peter Gold wrote: >Did you try exporting to PDF? Sometimes the Fill > None doesn't appear on >screen in FM, but does work in PDF. Yes, I did, Peter. All attempts to get this frame to disappear in both FrameMaker and the resulting PDF have so far failed, including: .

FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Christiane Crety (CC)
Hi Framers, I just got a new PC, reinstalled FrameMaker 7.2 and looked at Adobes site to get the latest updates. However, it seems that you cannot get updates earlier than 7.2b144, and 7.2b144 requires that you have 7.2b128. Anyone knows how to deal with this? Thanks! Best regards, Christiane

FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Christiane, as far as I know, there are only two patches for FM 7.2. So just install 7.2b144 first and then 7.2p158 and you should be fine. You can find 7.2p158 here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332 Kind regards -- Yves Barbion Documentation Architect

FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Christiane Crety (CC)
Hi, Yves, Thanks, but that's what I tried to do. I got a message saying that the 7.2b144 update requires that you have 7.2b128 installed first (which I don't). Christiane From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007

Memory Leak

2007-09-13 Thread Miriam Lezak
Kelly -- Are you running Frame with any plugins? Track Changes destabilized Framemaker for me. Giving conditional text a really good workout can also make it less stable (I had 12 conditions going). I got into the habit of saving about every 90 seconds. Miriam - Original Message

FW: FM 7.2 updates

2007-09-13 Thread Christiane Crety (CC)
Oops, sorry! It seems the update (7.2b144) was installed after all, even though I got the message that it couldn't! So now I'll go on to 7.2p158... :-) Thanks! Christiane From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:24

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-13 Thread Stuart Rogers
Lin Surasky wrote: > You're right. It's not touching, but it's close. Even if it's 4 pt from > the border, it's still not centered. And I did double-check the table > definition, and no negative numbers are used. The mis-alignment lessens > as the rows get taller; the worst offender is with the

Numbering steams and flows: solved

2007-09-13 Thread Stuart Rogers
Steve Rickaby wrote: > > I am still, however, surprised that number streams reset > at the start of a flow within the same document, although I suppose > it makes some sort of sense. > It makes a lot of sense if you suppose that the original purpose of multiple flows in a document was to allow

Numbering steams and flows: solved

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:14 -0400 13/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: >> I am still, however, surprised that number streams reset >>at the start of a flow within the same document, although I suppose >>it makes some sort of sense. >> > >It makes a lot of sense if you suppose that the original purpose of multiple >flows

Framers Digest, Vol 23, Issue 13

2007-09-13 Thread rradcli...@invacare.com
Steve, Check the Illustrator help under the "Transparency" headings. We do not use this feature, but glancing through, it looks like the help should answer your questions about placing one graphic over another. 4.5 MB sounds like a large file size for your background file, Not knowing your

Table Cell Alignment

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:01 -0400 13/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: >Just to ensure absolute clarity: Richard said to double-check the Table Cell >tab of the *Paragraph* designer; you say you checked the "table definition," >which implies the Table designer. You have checked both places, right? Just to underline

FM 7.1 to 7.2 Upgrade

2007-09-13 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Folks, I'm running 7.1p579 and looking for a 7.2 upgrade to no avail. From 7.1, must I go all the way to 8.0?...thanks, Kelly.

FM 7.1 to 7.2 Upgrade

2007-09-13 Thread Art Campbell
Might be able to round up an old upgrade on E-bay or something, but 7.x is no longer supported. Adobe only supports the current rev of a product, so if you want an official release, 8 is it. Why wouldn't you want to upgrade to the current release? Art On 9/13/07, Kelly McDaniel wrote: > >

FM 7.1 to 7.2 Upgrade

2007-09-13 Thread Fred Ridder
As far as Adobe is concerned, yes. As soon as 8.0 was released, they stopped selling 7.2 upgrades. This is pretty normal for application software unless there is some external issue like OS compatibility (i.e. software companies may have to keep old versions "alive" if the new version won't work

Numbering steams and flows

2007-09-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:20 -0400 12/9/07, Stuart Rogers wrote: >Steve Rickaby wrote: > >>I am forced to mix 1-column and 2-column layouts. I cannot use >>tables, as the existing 1-c material that must go into 2-c already >>contains tables. >> >>As we know from previous discussions here, the column layout is a

FM 7.1 to 7.2 Upgrade

2007-09-13 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Thanks for the reminder. I remember now. Oh, I would like to upgrade, but... This is my 5th week at my new POE, the source is a mess...multiple offsite, contract authors in eight books of 4k pages total, sometimes multiple authors in a single book, no corporate style guide, software six years