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2014-01-23 Thread Shlomo Perets
Free; no fluff, no hype, no nonsense; Thu, Jan 23, starting 10am PST Register at: https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/784496246 Often a writer will want to ask for clarification, ask for approval for a change the writer has initiated, or add a comment about a missing item for future

RE: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)

2014-01-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:28 -0800 22/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: The unhappy ones are probably the small users - like myself - who helped FrameMaker become what it is and Adobe *clearly* does not care about us anymore. That is unlike the founders of Frame Technology who I met many years

Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread David Downing
I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point

FREE TC CAMP Sat 25 Jan workshop Santa Clara, CA; world premiere live demo FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
For any list members in the SF Bay Area, you have an opportunity to see the first live public demo of FrameMaker 12 this Saturday, Jan 25 at 8:45 AM, in a TC Camp workshop I'm giving at Mission College, Santa Clara. The free workshop is courtesy of Adobe's sponsorship of TC Camp. Other

Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint

2014-01-23 Thread Anderson, Ben
Frame Gang, I have a Frame 10 book with about30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that particular PDF to the exact heading. When I load

Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

2014-01-23 Thread Davis, David
I'd echo Syed's point here - We Tech Pubs folk have a habit of repeating something Dov Isaac's said over a decade ago like it's some kind of holy writ, but 10 computer years is about a century in real years ;) Things may well (and certainly ought to) have changed since then. I'd like to see a

Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released)

2014-01-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
My guess is Adobe's goal in creating FrameMaker XML Author and pricing it at $400 is to eliminate the cost savings incentive for structured FrameMaker users to switch to Oxygen or XMetal instead of adding more FM seats. Also, at $400, I doubt if FrameMaker XML Author is going to be able to

RE: Giving some paragraphs a background colour with DITA

2014-01-23 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
FYI - for those who haven't reviewed all new features in FrameMaker 12, a new Pgf box command is available on the Advanced Tab of the Paragraph Designer. Unlike single cell tables, the new paragraph background color creates a box of color than can break columns or pages. Naturally, these

Re: FrameMaker 12: e-publishing options

2014-01-23 Thread Peter Barraud
FM12 multi-channel publishing does not require any other program from the tcs suite except FM12 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: At 06:16 + 17/1/14, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: Early Reviews for #Adobe Tech Comm Suite 5 and FrameMaker 12

RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi David, Lynda.com has a FrameMaker 11 course, but since it just covers the basics anyway, it would be appropriate for FrameMaker 12. It will cost you $25 per month, but since you have a 30 day trial this will be just right. There are tons of great course on there that you will have access

Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Here are some tutorials: http://www.prismnet.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/ http://wiki.scriptorium.com/tiki-index.php http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=framemaker%20tutorialsm=3 http://www.lynda.com/FrameMaker-training-tutorials/1059-0.html

RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Pick up a copy of Matt Sullivan's bible of FM - Publishing Fundamentals of FM11 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Downing Sent: January-22-14 12:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Need a good introductory

Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

2014-01-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 06:05 -0600 23/1/14, Davis, David wrote: If you have Windows 8, it comes with Microsoft HyperV built in, you can create a virtual machine with a few clicks, install Reader in it, and play away to your hearts content. (Shock news: Windows 8 actually does have some useful new features in it,

Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

2014-01-23 Thread Mike Wickham
Guys, you keep emphasizing that I used a quote of Dov's from 10 years ago-- and I did (9 years ago, actually). But I also included one other quote and a link to third message in the same post. These were from times more recent. One was from 2010, which was only one version back in Acrobat. I'd

RE: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
LOL! Say it isn't so! Dov's saying AREN'T holy writ!!?!? -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: January-23-14 9:31 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe

FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was

Book TOC Links Not Working in Sharepoint

2014-01-23 Thread Anderson, Ben
Frame Gang, I have a Frame 10 book with about 30 to 40 chapters in it. When I save the book to PDF (output to individual PDFs) the TOC hyperlinks work just fine. I can open the TOC PDF, click a sub-heading within a chapter, and it opens that particular PDF to the exact heading. When I load

RE: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi Steve, Fortunately I never experienced something like this. What I would do immediately before closing files or FrameMaker: Copy the whole folder to a temp folder. If FrameMaker does not work correctly, it could also damage the files when closing. Best regards Winfried -Original

Re: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:10 -0500 23/1/14, John Sgammato wrote: I've seen it once or twice in the past 20 years - closing and restarting FM worked. Then our statistics match, John - for me, once in 21 years ;-) I attribute it to sunspots. Or in my case, possible cat fur. -- Steve

Re: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread David Spreadbury
Steve, Occasionally my FrameMaker display will go a little berserk. Nothing as serious, so far, as you relate, but similar. Also, there are times when I will delete a graphic, but it remains on the screen, and I know I deleted it. It may be due to a long standing bug in Frame related to

FW: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
From: hessiansx4 [mailto:hessian...@yahoo.com] Sent: January-23-14 11:23 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12 The Adobe Classroom in a Book series should have something for FM 12 and takes about 40 hours from start-to-finish; it starts with

Re: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:16 -0800 23/1/14, David Spreadbury wrote: Occasionally my FrameMaker display will go a little berserk. Nothing as serious, so far, as you relate, but similar. Also, there are times when I will delete a graphic, but it remains on the screen, and I know I deleted it. It may be due to a

RE: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Steve Rickaby wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and

RE: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

2014-01-23 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Mike, point taken. Dr. Reng said the same thing too. Perhaps ... a different question that may be more interesting: Do people here feel that it is necessary to check a PDF in a Reader only environment if that PDF looks fine in Acrobat? Because, I have yet to see one of my files pass

RE: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:42 -0800 23/1/14, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Since then, I have relied on two things: DropBox is my friend ;-) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to

RE: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Since then, I have relied on two things: DropBox is my friend ;-) Yes, indeed! I do daily backups stored on multiple disks - both here and at home - for safety. I use DropBox, but not for these backup files ... yet ... Z ___ You are currently

Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

2014-01-23 Thread Mike Wickham
On 1/23/2014 1:17 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Do people here feel that it is necessary to check a PDF in a Reader only environment if that PDF looks fine in Acrobat? I don't normally feel it is necessary. My understanding has always been that Reader is

RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
When you created the PDF, did you selected Named Destinations or something like that? From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anderson, Ben Sent: January-22-14 3:51 PM To: ('framers@lists.frameusers.com') Subject: Book TOC links Not

Re: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread John Sgammato
I've seen it once or twice in the past 20 years - closing and restarting FM worked. I attribute it to sunspots. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in

RE: FrameMaker freaks me out

2014-01-23 Thread Harro de Jong
Steve Rickaby wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and

Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Urszula
David, just be sure you do not compare FrameMaker to PageMaker. Two different worlds, one long gone and replaced by InDesign. FrameMaker is more like a very able text processor with focus on text content, rather than layout of individual pages. Be sure you cover master pages, format tags and

RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
It wouldn't hurt anything - I think it just might make the PDF larger that's all From: Anderson, Ben [mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com] Sent: January-23-14 3:57 PM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint Hi Jeff, No, I didn't select that. Should I

RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Fred Ridder
Total ignorance is probably overstating it, but one fundamental fact you have missed is that PageMaker and FrameMaker do *not* have a common ancestry. What they have in common (besides the coincidental similarity in their names) is that they were both acquired as mature products by Adobe.

RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Hmm..must be something to do with PDFs and security maybe? If that were the case I wouldn't have expected them to work at all. Maybe it's got something to do with SharePoint? From: Anderson, Ben [mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com] Sent: January-23-14 4:42 PM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject:

RE: Book TOC links Not Working in Sharepoint

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Well, you could test that assumption by using Firefox. Have you checked the Adobe FM forums for FM/SharePoint posts? I know there's been some chatter on the subject... From: Anderson, Ben [mailto:benjamin.ander...@bbvacompass.com] Sent: January-23-14 5:01 PM To: Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE:

Today: 1-hr webinar, TW comments that cannot be ignored!

2014-01-23 Thread Shlomo Perets
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Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies

2014-01-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Do XML editors generally support conditional text and content reuse? Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 22-Jan-14 9:43 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: >> Also, at $400, I doubt if FrameMaker XML Author is going to be able to >> compete with other XML editors

Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes

2014-01-23 Thread Stephen O'Brien
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Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes

2014-01-23 Thread Art Campbell
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Opening FM 9 via Remote Desktop crashes

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
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