Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Doug
I concur with Michael, in that the serial comma it is sometimes necessary but regardless, it is never harmful. I use the serial comma by default, unless the 'and' is part of a singular grouping such as "Bath and Wells" or "Marks and Spencer", or some such. Doug On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:47 AM

Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Sounds like a Watercooler channel discussion on the Write the Docs Slack channel ;>) From: Framers on behalf of Johan Anglemark Sent: January 8, 2019 6:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question Could we please

Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Johan Anglemark
Could we please take the religious discussions elsewhere than this list? -j On 2019-01-08 12:55, Tom Beiswenger wrote: It's more than "Oxford style." The use of a serial comma is covered in the Chicago Manual of Style. Per entry 5.50: "In a series consisting of three or more elements, the

Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Tom Beiswenger
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen Rickaby
At 09:33 + 8/1/19, shuttie27 wrote: >Two points:The "Oxford style" is to include the comma, not to omit it. It was >so named because the Oxford University Press, almost alone among British >publishers, mandated it in their style guide. Secondly, as for its being >essential to avoid

Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Michael Lewis
Ah. But it is necessary *sometimes*. The basis of the Oxford style is that including it is sometimes necessary but never harmful. Its consistent omission is often predicated on the quite false assumption that it does the same job as "and" so need never be used alongside it. But "and" is purely

Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread shuttie27
Two points:The "Oxford style" is to include the comma, not to omit it. It was so named because the Oxford University Press, almost alone among British publishers, mandated it in their style guide.Secondly, as for its being essential to avoid ambiguity, tell that to all the other British and

Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen Rickaby
At 20:45 -0500 7/1/19, Doug wrote: >I've always thought two of a tech writer's top values are accuracy, and >avoidance of ambiguity. The Oxford (or serial) comma is essential for both >of these. I should have been clearer and a bit less grumpy ;-) I follow the Oxford style, which is to omit

Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

2019-01-08 Thread Stephen Rickaby
At 19:18 -0700 7/1/19, wrote: >I knew I would get a flurry of answers from the list, so thanks. I have what >I need to make some substantiated edits. Clearly I don't know the context of the surrounding text, but I think I'd favor some sort of list structure that introduces the information,