Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-30 Thread gr...@hedgewizard.net
Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still distribute it http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 , albeit with some fairly scary warnings. There is an alternative viewer: Help Explorer Viewer

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
winhlp32.exe is a viewer for WinHelp (.hlp) files, which format was supplanted by MS HTML Help (.chm) years ago. We're talking about Microsoft Help Container (.mshc). On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, gr...@hedgewizard.net gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote: Not only that, but MS stopped support for

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-28 Thread Fei Min Lorente
...@hedgewizard.net [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:48 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Not only that, but MS stopped support for the 32-bit help viewer. ( WinHlp32.exe) However, they do still

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-28 Thread Fei Min Lorente
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format I haven’t kept up with this thread; has anyone mentioned Flare Help Viewer? It is much more modern than CHM, and runs in .Net 4.0 (required). Worth a trial. Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | http://www.linkedin.com

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-27 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Fei Min, Yes, both Omnihelp and OracleHelp for Java are very fast and very flexible. Both the HTML Help Workshop help and Mif2Go Users Guide, discuss how to go about creating the tags necessary to make context-sensitive

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
There's no free runtime help viewer? That would explain why no one uses that format. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote: We’ve been in touch with Rob Chandler (creator of mshcMigrate) and he’s helped us realize that I might have been describing our

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-24 Thread David Spreadbury
Lauriston Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case where

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-24 Thread Fei Min Lorente
: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:43 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format Fei Min, Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult to decompile a CHM, make a change

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-24 Thread David Spreadbury
: Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:43 AM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format   Fei Min, Personally I think you are stabbing at windmills. It isn't all that difficult to decompile a CHM, make a change, and recompile. How many do? I produce OracleHelp

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Fei Min Lorente
to the eclipse_tw group. Fei Min -Original Message- From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Fei Min Lorente Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:41:52 +, Fei Min Lorente

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:53:28 +, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote: More clarification: we're planning to just set up a button or a menu item in the VS-based user interface that triggers the help system, and the help system will run in its own application not in VS, so we

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Fei Min Lorente
to the contrary. Fei Min -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format I agree with Jeremy, standalone

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
OmniHelp is web help. Web help is not a standard format but a generic term for help deliverables that use HTML and JavaScript. RoboHelp, Flare, and WebWorks ePublisher all have their own proprietary versions of web help, in some cases several versions. Which language in Visual Studio? It supports

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
If you have an index and context-sensitive help already in EclipseHelp, you should be able to generate those with OmniHelp without having to modify your FrameMaker source at all. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
own DTD. Fei Min -Original Message- From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format By structured, do you mean DITA or some other type of structured content

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format If you've already got MIF2Go generating EclipseHelp, how your docs are structured is of no concern. Adding a second or third output format in MIF2Go is a very minor task compared with the first. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread jackdeland
now. I've given up on it. - Original Message - From: Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:10:53 PM Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format We're using C# in Visual Studio. It's good to know that the index

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread David Artman
Original Message From: Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com Date: Fri, November 22, 2013 10:53 am And we weren't worried about OmniHelp losing files; we are worried about users going in and messing with them. Is there any way to lock them down? Security through obscurity:

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp is a huge and complicated distributable. It's not a practical format. I'm not sure if there's a use case where it would make sense. Why would users mess with your help files? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
-Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:26 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format I agree with Jeremy, standalone EclipseHelp

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-21 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: Choosing a Help Format We're using C# in Visual Studio. It's good to know that the index and context markers in FrameMaker will translate to OmniHelp. And yes, as an experiment, I output MS HTML Help from FM using Mif2Go, and aside from some configuration goofs on my part, it went

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-21 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Not DITA. It's our own DTD. Fei Min -Original Message- From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:51 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format By structured, do you mean DITA or some other type

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-21 Thread Writer
By structured, do you mean DITA or some other type of structured content? Nadine I’ve got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I’ve produced Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we’re creating a user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate the

Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-21 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:41:52 +, Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote: I've got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I've produced Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we're creating a user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate

RE: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-21 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 2:01 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Choosing a Help Format If you've already got MIF2Go generating EclipseHelp, how