'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
from earlier post
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to
transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured
: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Further to Matt's comments, I do conversion for clients, but usually 1000's of
pages at a time, and sometimes it's Word, Frame, or
sloppy Frame source content. In almost all cases we look for patterns. If they
can be id'd then we
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From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com]
Sent: April-30-10 13:52
To: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter); 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph
Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
BTW, with a system in place we
(Publishing
Smarter)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker
Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
The we in this case is a company we. So it was me. And one part time
resource who
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden
(Publishing
Smarter)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker
Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
The we in this case
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
from earlier post
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone
[mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:42 PM
To: 'Ed'; 'Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)'; 'Alison Craig';
'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
The question isn't/wasn't whether or not to structure
: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Matt-
People are asking why it's so hard to convert. My point is that for many
solo writers, it's hard to propose a conversion to management, and get
buy-in, especially when there's doc to write that's currently being
delivered just
Hi Ed,
I think you have too many experts in your list. Many of us learned the steps
as novices. For example,
An expert to create an EDD and/or DTD.
You can learn to create an EDD by reading the FrameMaker documentation. If
you are going to use DITA, FrameMaker comes with an EDD that you can
wanted it badly enough to do it anyway.
Nadine
--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
To: 'Matt Sullivan' m...@grafixtraining.com, 'Bernard Aschwanden
(Publishing
I'll look at this incrementally.
-=Ed.
-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:01 PM
To: 'Ed'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
Hi Ed,
I think you have too many
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:15:17 -0400, Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com wrote:
I went to an XSL class and was completely lost. Maybe it's changed since
then, but XSL spooked me pretty well. I enjoy hacking XML and CSS, so maybe
I'll look at this incrementally.
You aren't the only one who finds XSLT
: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to
transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or dita?
Sincerely,
Joseph
ph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Further to Matt's comments, I do conversion for clients, but usually 1000's of
pages at a time, and sometimes it's Word, Frame, or
sloppy Frame source content. In almost all cases we look fo
nard
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From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com]
Sent: April-30-10 13:52
To: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter); 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph
Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
&
n Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing
> Smarter)
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker
Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
>
> The "we" in this c
[mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden
> (Publishing
> Smarter)
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker
Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New
at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its
llivan [mailto:matt at grafixtraining.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:42 PM
> To: 'Ed'; 'Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)'; 'Alison Craig';
> 'FrameMaker Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
>
> The question isn't/wasn't whe
Maker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Matt-
People are asking why it's so hard to convert. My point is that for many
solo writers, it's hard to propose a conversion to management, and get
buy-in, especially when there's doc to write that's curre
Hi Ed,
I think you have too many experts in your list. Many of us learned the steps
as novices. For example,
>An expert to create an EDD and/or DTD.
You can learn to create an EDD by reading the FrameMaker documentation. If
you are going to use DITA, FrameMaker comes with an EDD that you can
wanted it badly enough to do it anyway.
Nadine
--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ed wrote:
> From: Ed
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
> To: "'Matt Sullivan'" , "'Bernard Aschwanden
> (Publishing Smarter)'" , "'A
I'll look at this incrementally.
-=Ed.
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:01 PM
> To: 'Ed'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
>
> Hi
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:15:17 -0400, "Ed" wrote:
>I went to an XSL class and was completely lost. Maybe it's changed since
>then, but XSL spooked me pretty well. I enjoy hacking XML and CSS, so maybe
>I'll look at this incrementally.
You aren't the only one who finds XSLT challenging! I've
been
from earlier post
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to
transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or dita?
Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
from earlier post
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, Matt Sullivan
m...@grafixtraining.com
wrote:
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host
of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple,
painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured
framemaker to either structured or
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H.
Griffith
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:25 PM
To: 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, Matt Sullivan
m...@grafixtraining.com
wrote:
While
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:54:08 -0700, Matt Sullivan
m...@grafixtraining.com wrote:
As a point of correction...
I didn't state the para you've attributed to me
and I *do not* agree with it.
Ah. You were quoting it. I didn't notice that,
because you had omitted the usual top attribution
to the
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to
transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or dita?
Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
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Hi
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
While there's
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, "Matt Sullivan"
wrote:
>While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host
>of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple,
>painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured
>framemaker to either structured or dita?
They can say
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H.
Griffith
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:25 PM
To: 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, "Matt Sullivan"
wrote:
>While there
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:54:08 -0700, "Matt Sullivan"
wrote:
>As a point of correction...
>
>I didn't state the para you've attributed to me
>and I *do not* agree with it.
Ah. You were quoting it. I didn't notice that,
because you had omitted the usual top attribution
to the author, Joseph
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