RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-13 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
Hi, Electropubs.com has a nifty little plug-in called Clean Import that lets you replace existing formats with the ones you import (all kinds of formats or just the ones you select). So you could delete the unneeded conditions from one file and then Clean Import conditions from it to all

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
This has led me finally to consider conditional text. I'd create two tags: windows and linux. Then,  I'll apply the tags to operating system specific UI/functionality while leaving shared content alone. Sounds like a perfect solution. Here's the thing though, I am not a fan of conditional

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Joseph Lorenzini wrote: snip sense to create two different documents, which share a large amount of information. This has led me finally to consider conditional text. I'd create two tags: windows and linux. Then, I'll apply the tags to operating system specific UI/functionality while

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread William Abernathy
Joseph: What you are describing is exactly the sort of situation conditional text was designed for. From the sound of things, you're bothered by the basic logic of conditional text. You are not the first writer to experience this, and you will not be the last. Nonetheless, I have a hard time

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
Whatever you do, _don't_ conditionalize a word here or there. That's what leads to problems. Very wise! I've had to clean up many documents that were poorly conditioned to the word level. It can certainly be done well, but it's not for the conditional text novice by any means. Kiddies, don't

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Joseph Lorenzini wrote: Thank you for your feedback. I'll definitely go with the conditional text then. I like guidelines of only conditionalizing paragraphs is and never have overlapping conditions.  As Richard suggested, if I have to I'll just replicate the paragraph. As for the funky

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Baruch Brodersen
snip Sorry, I don't understand. When you hide a condition, there is no resulting paragraph mark -- /snip There is if the hidden condtional text is a text inset. -- B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 8 7 7 7 2 1 6 9 8 8

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Flato, Gillian
- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Baruch Brodersen Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:59 AM To: Combs, Richard Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Joseph Lorenzini Subject: Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text snip Sorry, I

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Baruch Brodersen wrote: snip Sorry, I don't understand. When you hide a condition, there is no resulting paragraph mark -- /snip There is if the hidden condtional text is a text inset. Only if you fail to apply the condition to the paragraph that contains the text inset. A text inset

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Field, Karen wrote: Question along these lines: I've got docs that I split into different version numbers and company branding. One document spins into 6 different ones when I combine the version numbers with the branding. (For example: v. 2.1 Company A; v. 2.1 Company B) I do apply

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
Ideally I'd suggest try to avoid conditional text. That means planning. Then, if you do need to use it, you've done all you can to avoid it, and it should appear as little as possible. It likely needs as little as possible to make it work as well. It's a great feature, but one that you may be

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
In that case make sure you conditionalize everything from the 1st character to the ending paragraph mark of each conditional paragraph. You should have no issues if you follow that rule. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your feedback. I'll

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
That means think a lot about what you write. With one client we took the approach of a Mac and a PC version of manuals, but we had, say, 10 chapters that had the same info. We avoided product names. We asked the developers to match the product and dialogs. Then we wrote generic. Instead of

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread David Spreadbury
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:27 PM To: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter) Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text That means think a lot about what you write. With one client we took

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
BILL: Generally I agree, but I think in this specific case the application that Joe is documenting really varies between Linux and Windows. At least, that's what I gathered from: Originally, I was told that these differences would eventually go away and that the user experience would be