Re: Review please: pfil FIRST/LAST

2008-03-17 Thread Vadim Goncharov
Hi Max Laier! On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:05:36 +0100; Max Laier wrote about 'Review please: pfil FIRST/LAST': attached is a small diff to allow pfil(9) consumers to force a sticky=20 position on the head/tail of the processing queue. This can be used to=20 do traffic conditioning kind of tasks

Re: Review please: pfil FIRST/LAST

2008-03-17 Thread Max Laier
On Monday 17 March 2008 11:29:15 Vadim Goncharov wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:05:36 +0100; Max Laier wrote about 'Review please: pfil FIRST/LAST': attached is a small diff to allow pfil(9) consumers to force a sticky position on the head/tail of the processing queue. This can be used to

Re: Failure to Project OOImpress

2008-03-17 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 3/15/08, KAYVEN RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Paul B. Mahol wrote: Was it connected prior or after Xorg startup? I think we connected prior. Should we have? I had my computer turned off, and I booted it up. The projector was on during boot. I thought the boot

Re: OpenBSD sdiff Question

2008-03-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 17), Steven Kreuzer said: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:29:19PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 03:21:01PM -0700, Bert JW Regeer wrote: Even if BSD has no tradition to keep a separate program version, it is still very handy to be able to give

Re: OpenBSD sdiff Question

2008-03-17 Thread Steven Kreuzer
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:29:19PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 03:21:01PM -0700, Bert JW Regeer wrote: Even if BSD has no tradition to keep a separate program version, it is still very handy to be able to give this data to other developers if something is failing.

Re: Freebsd 7.0 on ASUS P4R8L - No Disks Found!

2008-03-17 Thread Alexander Sack
I suppose this should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] But with that said, what mode is your SATA/IDE controller in? If there is an AHCI or Legacy mode, try it again. -aps On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Eddie Parra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Newbie) I have FreeBSD 6.3 working on my Asus AB-2800. I

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Maslan
Hi all, Aren't we working on a FreeBSD/Xen port ??? I think we don't need a Linux like KVM or DragonFly's vkernel, if we could run FreeBSD in dom0. Thank a lot On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Kip Macy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: Well, I don't think I would agree with your assessment but, : particularly, the way vkernels are implemented in DragonFly is NOT : in the least disruptive to kernel source. : :I was referring to the decision you made to rename all of the kernel :functions that conflicted with libc

Re: OpenBSD sdiff Question

2008-03-17 Thread Bert JW Regeer
On Mar 15, 2008, at 23:29 , David O'Brien wrote: On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 03:21:01PM -0700, Bert JW Regeer wrote: Even if BSD has no tradition to keep a separate program version, it is still very handy to be able to give this data to other developers if something is failing. $ ident

Re: Re[2]: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically DragonFly has a syscall API that allows a userland process to create and completely control any number of VM spaces, including the ability to pass execution control to a VM space and get it back,

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
Matthew Dillon wrote: : Well, I don't think I would agree with your assessment but, : particularly, the way vkernels are implemented in DragonFly is NOT : in the least disruptive to kernel source. : :I was referring to the decision you made to rename all of the kernel :functions

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
Maslan wrote: Hi all, Aren't we working on a FreeBSD/Xen port ??? I think we don't need a Linux like KVM or DragonFly's vkernel, if we could run FreeBSD in dom0. I agree that people interested in virtualization will get the most return on investment if they contribute to the Xen port, large

Re: Re[2]: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Matt, I'm sorry I'm not trying to hijack this thread but isn't the vkernel :approach very similar to VMWare's hosted architecture products (such as :Fusion for the Mac and Client Workstation for windows)? : :As I understand it, they have a regular process like vkernel called :vmware-vmx which

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:I don't think there's an issue that needs solving, GCC has -nostdlib and :-fno-builtin for precisely this reason. You are missing the point entirely. The point is to allow the vkernel to use libc, aka allow it to be compiled, linked, and run as a normal user process. What is your

Re: Re[2]: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Alexander Sack
Some interesting reading for anyone who cares:

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
Matthew Dillon wrote: :I don't think there's an issue that needs solving, GCC has -nostdlib and :-fno-builtin for precisely this reason. You are missing the point entirely. The point is to allow the vkernel to use libc, aka allow it to be compiled, linked, and run as a normal user

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
Matthew Dillon wrote: In all three cases the emulated hardware -- disk and network basically, devolves down into calling read() or write() or the real-kernel equivalent. A hypervisor has the most work to do since it is trying to emulate a hardware interface (adding another

valgrind on FreeBSD 7

2008-03-17 Thread Heiko Wundram
Hey all! It's been some time now, and I just wanted to ping quietly whether there's any chance to get (a preview of) the valgrind adapted for FreeBSD 7. I'm currently hitting a point in my development where compiling the code on Linux to run valgrind simply won't do anymore, because of code

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :If your goal is to link vkernels with libc then by definition you are :forced to resolve the namespace conflicts, but I don't see this as a :necessary goal. A minimal standalone libkernel would do the same thing :without requiring global changes to the kernel namespace, which would

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Julian Elischer
Kris Kennaway wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: :I don't think there's an issue that needs solving, GCC has -nostdlib and :-fno-builtin for precisely this reason. You are missing the point entirely. The point is to allow the vkernel to use libc, aka allow it to be compiled, linked, and

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
Matthew Dillon wrote: I guess my problem is that you are holding this up as a red flag when it isn't even remotely close to being one. What I have said is that the dragonfly vkernel work is the interesting beginning of a project, but that further work needs to be done before the

Re: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: In all three cases the emulated hardware -- disk and network basically, : devolves down into calling read() or write() or the real-kernel : equivalent. A hypervisor has the most work to do since it is trying to : emulate a hardware interface (adding another layer). XEN has

Re: Re[4]: vkernel GSoC, some questions

2008-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Matt, : :You sure won't argue that UML isolation is inherently better than one that can be provided by a hypervisor. If the performance is the same, what are you gaining? : :Hypervisor while slow, allows treating a complete OS with all applications as a black box. Why would I choose UML

Summer of Code 2008 Project Ideas

2008-03-17 Thread Murray Stokely
The FreeBSD Project was again accepted as a mentoring organization for the Google Summer of Code. The student application period will begin next week so if you have any ideas for great student projects, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or post them here for discussion. A good student project

Summer of Code 2008 Project Ideas

2008-03-17 Thread Murray Stokely
The FreeBSD Project was again accepted as a mentoring organization for the Google Summer of Code. The student application period will begin next week so if you have any ideas for great student projects, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or post them here for discussion. A good student

Re: Summer of Code 2008 Project Ideas

2008-03-17 Thread Igor Mozolevsky
On 17/03/2008, Murray Stokely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FreeBSD Project was again accepted as a mentoring organization for the Google Summer of Code. The student application period will begin next week so if you have any ideas for great student projects, please send them to [EMAIL

remote operation or admin

2008-03-17 Thread Chuck Robey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have 4 computers, 1 big FreeBSD-current (4 x86 procs), 2 GentooLinux (1 is a dial AMD Opteron, the other a dual older x86), and 1 MacOSX (dual PPC). I was thinking about looking for two items, I'm not sure if I want one or both of them: either some

Re: valgrind on FreeBSD 7

2008-03-17 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Heiko Wundram wrote: Hey all! It's been some time now, and I just wanted to ping quietly whether there's any chance to get (a preview of) the valgrind adapted for FreeBSD 7. out is a futile task, I guess, as I didn't manage to find it in the FreeBSD perforce repository

Re: valgrind on FreeBSD 7

2008-03-17 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Mike Silbersack wrote: Here's a tarball of what's in perforce right now. I tried it a little bit, and it seemed to work for me. Make sure to install the kernel module! http://www.silby.com/valgrind_freebsd_3.tar.gz But don't send me questions about it - I'm not an