Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-21 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Zaphod Beeblebrox zbee...@gmail.com writes: While the link is slow, it is really directly connected with a latency of 10ms or so. 10 ms is pretty high. A direct connection (same Ethernet segment) should have a round-trip latency well below 1 ms. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no

Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
Play with the read-ahead mount options for NFS, but it might require more work with that kind of latency. You need to be able to have a lot of RPC's in-flight to maintain the pipeline with higher latencies. At least 16 and possibly more. It might be easier to investigate why

Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I must say that I often deeply respect your position and your work, but your recent willingness to jump into a conversation without reading the whole of it ... simply to point out some point where your pet is better than the subject of the list... is disappointing. Case in point... On Mon, Dec

Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
I'm just covering all the bases. To be frank, half the time when someone posts they are doing something a certain way it turns out that they actually aren't. I've learned that covering the bases tends to lead to solutions more quickly than assuming a perfect rendition. For

Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-21 Thread Matthew Dillon
Oh, one more thing... I'm assuming you haven't used tcpdump with NFS much. tcpdump has issues parsing the NFS RPC's out of a TCP stream. For the purposes of testing you may want to temporarily use a UDP NFS mount. tcpdump can parse the NFS RPCs out of the UDP stream far more

Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: In the last episode (Dec 19), Zaphod Beeblebrox said: Here's an interesting conundrum.  I don't know what's different between the TCP that scp uses from the TCP that NFS uses, but given the same two FreeBSD machines,

Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-20 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 21), Zaphod Beeblebrox said: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: In the last episode (Dec 19), Zaphod Beeblebrox said: Here's an interesting conundrum.  I don't know what's different between the TCP that scp uses from the TCP

Re: scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-19 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 19), Zaphod Beeblebrox said: Here's an interesting conundrum. I don't know what's different between the TCP that scp uses from the TCP that NFS uses, but given the same two FreeBSD machines, SCP fills the pipe with packets better. Examine the following graphic:

scp more perfectly fills the pipe than NFS/TCP

2009-12-18 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Here's an interesting conundrum. I don't know what's different between the TCP that scp uses from the TCP that NFS uses, but given the same two FreeBSD machines, SCP fills the pipe with packets better. Examine the following graphic: http://www.eicat.ca/~dgilbert/example-mrtg.png The system